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'{{User:MiszaBot/config |archiveheader = {{talk archive navigation}} |maxarchivesize = 150K |counter = 18 |minthreadsleft = 0 |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |algo = old(5d) |archive = User talk:Dennis Brown/Archive %(counter)d }} {{User talk:Dennis Brown/header}} {{Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard/RfA Report|style="float:left: clear:left;"}} == Sense of humour == Admin Dennis, do you happen to remember the user names who had some "sense of humour" and been cleared recently at the SPI, where I had reported them? Please give one minute of your time to read [[Talk:Araksi Çetinyan|this page]]. (I may provide more but it is enough to look at the "contributions" of the user to see why they are here, which agenda they follow and with which feelings they edit WP. Tried to write this without hurting those noble feelings.) All the best. --[[User:E4024|E4024]] ([[User talk:E4024|talk]]) 21:47, 17 January 2013 (UTC) Dennis, while you are at it could you possibly also investigate the behaviour of the user above who routinely uses derogatory and insulting language to describe his opponents, including insults through the use of edit-summaries, despite multiple warnings not to abuse the edit summary function for personal attacks. See here [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:E4024&diff=532603993&oldid=532477465 one of many warnings on his talkpage] about abuse of edit-summaries where he describes his perceived opponent as {{xt|blinded by anti-Turkish euphoria}} just because the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgios_Zariphis&diff=prev&oldid=532537456 other editor used non-Turkish names for some places], and this edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Araksi_%C3%87etinyan&diff=533766087&oldid=533608622 where he insults the same editor] through both the edit summary and the content of his comments. Thank you. [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 23:57, 18 January 2013 (UTC) Mr Brown if you find me a better role model then the user in this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greek_genocide&curid=4296727&diff=534023377&oldid=534002533 edit summary] I could follow them and be a more educated editor in time. Best. --[[User:E4024|E4024]] ([[User talk:E4024|talk]]) 16:59, 20 January 2013 (UTC) :Sure. Continue [[WP:BAIT|baiting]] your fellow editors and [[WP:BATTLE|abusing]] edit summaries: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Demographics_of_Turkey&diff=prev&oldid=534318643 Revision as of 12:12, 22 January 2013 E4024 (→‎Greeks: No need to sythetising. What about Cyprus events or EU accession (let us go to Greece and spend the money Germans spare) of Greece? Better write a blog.)] You set a great example of collaborative editing and civility. Or rather not. [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 04:25, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :I have no idea who had a sense of humor or not. As you can guess, I'm on massive OT, so not here much for a bit. Searching my contribs might help. As for role models, I'm confident (or at least hopeful) you two can work out the snippyness on your own. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 11:02, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ::Dennis I know you are busy. The giant stop sign and your edit notice message in a fuchsia background are unmistakable. I just wanted to point to you a few inconsistencies regarding the constant complaining of the editor above who complains to admins about other editors without owning up to his own chronic incivility. I gather from your comment about snippyness that my comments were summarily dismissed without investigation. I should have expected that since I knew you were busy. I am just surprised about the "snippyness" remark which means that I should not have tried to correct the record regarding the complaints of this editor for fear of appearing "snippy" while doing so. My conclusion is that I am in the wrong place at the wrong time and with wrong assumptions. Sorry for the inconvenience. [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 14:13, 24 January 2013 (UTC) == Out of order for a few days == I've been in bed all day, can't sleep a wink. Worst head cold I've had in two decades, face is so swollen that I literally can't focus to read the computer screen. I've had it for a few days, but it took a turn for the worse yesterday PM. Not as bad as having the flu, but Mrs. Brown is drowning me in Gatorade and chicken broth. Wikipedia is going to have to do without me for a few days, sorry. I just can't concentrate. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 01:24, 18 January 2013 (UTC) :Get well soon!&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 01:26, 18 January 2013 (UTC) ::Get your rest and eat the soup. Hope you feel better soon.--[[User:Amadscientist|Amadscientist]] ([[User talk:Amadscientist|talk]]) 01:38, 18 January 2013 (UTC) :::Finally got over something like that last week, though it wasn't nearly as bad as yours sounds. Feel better! [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 03:52, 18 January 2013 (UTC) ::::I might take the cake on this one. I just had an ultrasound to find out what was wrong with me yesterday, it turned up nothing. Now they're checking for [[Helicobacter pylori]] and I'm on [[Omeprazole]].&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 17:57, 18 January 2013 (UTC) :::::All right, Ryan. You win. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 20:08, 18 January 2013 (UTC) ::::::All I have to say is, "Ryan, EWWW YUK!". This has been a rough winter for many. Personally had a monster sinus infection, followed by cellulitis in the leg, followed by a cold and finally another sinus infection. I am spending the rest of the winter under my bed! Get well soon, Dennis! [[User:Gtwfan52|Gtwfan52]] ([[User talk:Gtwfan52|talk]]) 20:20, 18 January 2013 (UTC) :::::::Do we have ''any'' healthy editors left? Get well soon Dennis, and the rest of you lot too. [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">雲</span>]]&zwj;[[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">水</span>]] 00:03, 19 January 2013 (UTC) ::::::::{{tps}} Hope you feel better Dennis (and the rest of you) -- A tried and true remedy for anything that ails me is three shots of whiskey. Of course, if by chance that doesn't work, try four. [[User:Lettik|Lettik]] ([[User talk:Lettik|talk]]) 13:56, 19 January 2013 (UTC) :::::::::I wanna get in on the pity party! The skin on my hands is really dry and I'm kinda losing my voice! I know, doesn't exactly compete well with the above. In all seriousness, I hope you are better now (all of you). [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">Automatic</span><span style="color:Orange">''Strikeout''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''T'''</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Orange">C</span>]])</small> 22:13, 23 January 2013 (UTC) ::::::::::I know we don't communicate much, but I do hope you (and Ryan, and Gtw, and Automatic) feel better! :) [[User:Keilana|Keilana]]&#124;<sup>[[User talk:Keilana|Parlez ici]]</sup> 05:55, 24 January 2013 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:Editor of the Week|Editor of the Week]] == Dennis, I wanted to officially inform you that the project you suggested, an editor of the week, has been started largely due to the diligence of [[User:Isaacl]] and [[User:Amadscientist]] with help and ideas from [[User:Buster7]], [[User:AutomaticStrikeout]], [[User:Gtwfan52]], and [[User:TheOriginalSoni]]. We have recognized two recipients thus far: [[User:Kelvinsong]] and [[User:EricEnfermero]]. We do have a solid infrastructure set up, which should mean that the project is sustainable as long as we keep getting new nominations. Thanks for your suggestion, and feel free to submit any nominees you may have. --[[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 04:13, 21 January 2013 (UTC) *Excellent. I haven't even been able to look at Wikipedia in order a day, and currently hanging up aux. lighting at the house, so just dropped by to see what is going on. Like I said, this time of year, I'm swamped. I'm also very thankful that so many users have just jumped in and made it happen. I prefer it, actually. You guys don't need me, I'm just the cheerleader :) I think that if you advertise the program around a bit, you will find plenty of nominees. You might even drop a note at WP:AN, asking admin to nominate some every day users they run across that are extremely helpful and often overlooked. One of the village pump pages would also be good. Personally, I would suggest one place per week, stretch it out over several weeks, so you don't get a giant flood all at one time. I'm sincerely impressed with how you guys took a basic idea and ran with it. We worry a lot about the problems here, but this is one of those positive solutions that makes a difference, too. Thanks again. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 23:10, 21 January 2013 (UTC) [[File:Pompon.jpg|thumb|Dennis Brown's cheerleader pom-pons]] **I had made a suggestion at one of the discussion pages for this that maybe you could put something out on an administrator email list, if such a thing exists. [[User:Gtwfan52|Gtwfan52]] ([[User talk:Gtwfan52|talk]]) 23:19, 21 January 2013 (UTC) ***No admin email list exists, that what WP:AN is for, for admin notices. Finished hanging the lights, time to cook dinner and get in at least two hours of research for work tonight. I have to remind myself that I get lots of time off in the summer and fall... [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 23:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC) ****Time off is for whimps. ;)--[[User:Amadscientist|Amadscientist]] ([[User talk:Amadscientist|talk]]) 03:50, 22 January 2013 (UTC) *****Dude, the wheels are coming off. Quit your day job, man. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 18:42, 22 January 2013 (UTC) ******What's all this twaddle about cooking dinner, hanging lights and doing research?? Isnt all that mundane common-man stuff why you have [[Downton Abbey|hired help]]? ```[[User: Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em>''']]<small>[[User talk:Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em>''']]</small> 21:04, 22 January 2013 (UTC) *******Yeah, I agree. Who needs dinner, electricity, and income when Wikipedia is falling apart at the seams? [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 21:09, 22 January 2013 (UTC) ********Actually, hanging lights is part of my job, at least the research and development part. Looking into selling horticultural supplies for the indoor market. Recent developments in American politics make me think it is going to be a rapidly expanding market. Of course, I don't live in one of those states, so I will stick to growing veggies. Alabama is expected to be the next state to legalize medicinal marijuana, btw. That is a tiny part of the indoor horticultural market is all, but an important one nonetheless. And I ''used'' to have "help", back when we owned a couple shops and the economy wasn't in the tank. We had to take them out back and shoot them, couldn't afford to feed them any more.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2S9WDgeZ_o] (that link is just for Drmies, since I know that is his favorite show) I miss 2002-2005. I would even take 8 more years of Bill Clinton if I had to. As for enwp falling apart, you flatter me. I'm sure there are number of people, some with more bits than others, that are celebrating the fact that I'm too busy to edit right now. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 13:50, 23 January 2013 (UTC) == Hey Dennis, and stalkers with tools: glad you're reading ANI 3.0 == Listen, Dennis, if you're around: I protected [[Charles Eisenstein]] due to socking concerns, filed a related SPI--and then jumped right in and started editing the article, having conveniently forgotten that I had protected it. That's probably not entirely kosher, so I unprotected it. I still think that semi-protection is warranted, but I will leave that up to the next admin. Thanks. On a brighter note, remember my human baby boy? He turned five months old a few days ago, and as of tonight he has his own Facebook page. Lots of goodlooking women flock to him. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 03:34, 22 January 2013 (UTC) :This is ANI 3.0? Anyway, I did the semiprotection for two weeks, since I've no idea who this guy is and I haven't edited his article. The filing of an SPI (already done) should be enough justification for the semi. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 03:44, 22 January 2013 (UTC) ::I don't know if Dennis wants his page to be ANI 3.0....but it sorta is. :)--[[User:Amadscientist|Amadscientist]] ([[User talk:Amadscientist|talk]]) 03:49, 22 January 2013 (UTC) :::Hey, if [[User talk:Drmies|ANI 2.0]] gets boring, I come over here. Thanks Ed. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 04:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC) ::::Hey Drmies, when is this boy of yours gonna get an account? After all, we always need more flesh blood. If he can be on facebook, he can edit, right? [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">Automatic</span><span style="color:Orange">''Strikeout''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''T'''</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Orange">C</span>]])</small> 02:47, 23 January 2013 (UTC) :::::<small>*Fresh blood. Sorry to be the grammar nazi. [[User:Basalisk|<font color="green">'''Basa'''</font><font color="CC9900">'''lisk'''</font>]]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Basalisk|<sup><font color="green">inspect damage</font></sup>]]⁄[[User talk:Basalisk|<sub><font color="CC9900">berate</font></sub>]] 12:11, 23 January 2013 (UTC)</small> ::::::<small>''Spelling'' Nazi. Sorry to be the terminology Nazi... [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">雲</span>]]&zwj;[[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">水</span>]] 12:25, 23 January 2013 (UTC)</small> :::::::<small>Spelling ''fascist''. Sorry to be the sociopolitical Nazi ([[User talk:Bwilkins|✉→]]'''[[User:Bwilkins|BWilkins]]'''[[Special:Contributions/Bwilkins|←✎]]) 12:36, 23 January 2013 (UTC) ::::::::<Small>Spelling errorist. Not sorry though.--[[User:Amadscientist|Amadscientist]] ([[User talk:Amadscientist|talk]]) 12:46, 23 January 2013 (UTC)</small> :::::::::ANI 3.0?!? If you are trying to talk me into spending more time here, it ain't workin' ;) But seriously, we are in the middle of both the busiest time of year for me (next 3 months, the only time of year I actually work) and I'm right in the middle of researching and developing a completely different product line, sourcing parts, etc. It would be much easier if I spoke [[Standard Chinese|Mandarin]]. Starting my 20th year here, and it never gets boring, literally working 16+ hours from the office and home right now. The joys of being a greedy, money grubbing marketing director. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 13:42, 23 January 2013 (UTC) ::::::::::I prefer working metaphorically, Dennis. Wait--20 years? They stuck it out with you that long? [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 02:02, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :::::::::::That is more ironic than you know. When I started, My hair was very long, I played guitar in a rockabilly band so had to leave to travel to gigs a lot (boss was very cool about that) and I came in as a temp employee to help for 3 months, that was 1994. Since I had a background in marketing, mad computer skills, a decade of marketing experience and could work on anything with wires, he decided to keep me year round. Since I could take off just about any time I needed to play with the band, I stuck around, created a real marketing dept. and within a few years, sales were up 10x and we had bought out a manufacturer. I accidentally grew up along the way. Probably about the time the tendinitis forced me to quit playing guitar. No one is more shocked that I stuck around than I am. Now I'm too lazy to go get a real job, preferring to work 3 months a year and fishing the rest. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 11:28, 24 January 2013 (UTC) == You'll probably say no == I noticed a statement on [[User:Carrot Lord]]'s user page at [[User:Carrot Lord#Warning: Expert Wikipedian abusing power]]. He goes on to say that if any Wikipedian asks him to remove the statement, he'll leave Wikipedia forever. The warning is clearly inappropriate if used, and I'll bring him to ANI if he attempts to use it again, but there's nothing about having it on his user page that justifies anything. It was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ACarrot_Lord&diff=534385347&oldid=534347501 removed] by a clear vandal (Farty farty poopfarts) who left the comment "I have requested the removal of this section from this user page, because it is not appropriate for Wikipedians to see." That comment was either mimicking Carrot Lord's comment "If any Wikipedian decides to request the removal of this section from my own user page because it is not appropriate for Wikipedians to see, I will most likely leave Wikipedia forever, out of shame and disgust for such a filthy policy system." or was like his comment for a reason (if my hunch is correct). Carrot Lord reverts this comment, and proceeds to use his warning like message thingy on Farty's page. (since deleted by JamesBWatson, so you'd need to look into the history) I removed it, Carrot Lord restored it, AS removed it. When I removed it, I left a note on Carrot Lord's talk page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACarrot_Lord&diff=534519823&oldid=534481752] Carrot Lord told me to be careful next time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Carrot_Lord&diff=next&oldid=534519823] then removed the section. JamesBWatson has warned him for the vandalism. Farty is now blocked by the way. Here's my hunch. This looks to me like a possible good cop, bad cop type of thing. I think it's possible that Carrot Lord created farty to remove the info from his own userpage so that he could use the statement on Farty's user page. What I'm curious about is the possibility that this is some type of a sockfarm in the making and if CU should be used, or if we should just wait and watch Carrot Lord to see what happens.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 18:23, 23 January 2013 (UTC) :I have no doubt that the two accounts are the same person. What the purpose is, is difficult to tell. The best guess I can come up with is that Carrot Lord created a silly warning message, and then created a spoof vandalism account to give himself an opportunity to use the silly message. If so, it comes under the category of using Wikipedia as a playground, but perhaps nothing worse than that. If there is more to it than that, or if there isn't but Carrot Lord does more of the same, then it may be worth thinking of taking further steps, but at present I don't see any need for further action. [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson|talk]]) 18:44, 23 January 2013 (UTC) ::My question is: How do we know that Carrot Lord hasn't created other socks before (assuming that this is a sockpuppeting case, which it might not be)? [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">Automatic</span><span style="color:Orange">''Strikeout''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''T'''</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Orange">C</span>]])</small> 18:47, 23 January 2013 (UTC) ::: This is absolutely a joke. A sick joke. I am leaving Wikipedia as a contributor. Forever. And I promise to bankrupt it, and make a better Wikipedia using MediaWiki software. This community is disgusting. I tried to report User:Kevin Gorman for sock puppeting. Everyone laughed at me. Now I am not a sock puppeteer. And you accuse me of idiocy. This is the worst and most evil dictatorship on Earth. Wikipedia itself, especially the admins. Especially the high level users. Disgusting. --[[User:Carrot Lord|Carrot Lord]] ([[User talk:Carrot Lord|talk]]) 12:56, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *The more I look, the more concerned I get. He has [http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=Carrot+Lord&l=all 270 edits to his userpage], I just removed a personal attack on Jimbo Wales no less [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ACarrot_Lord%2FShrine_of_Wikipe-tan&diff=534555211&oldid=534039307 here], the article he's edited most is [[Mozio]], it looks like there were some clear conflict of interest issues that led to the article being stubbified by Kevin Gorman, I just did a minor rewrite to the lead because it misinformed the reader.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 21:54, 23 January 2013 (UTC) :*His comments related to women are just weird, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACarrot_Lord&diff=534565369&oldid=534561456 this] and the creation of [[User:Carrot Lord/Miss Wikipedia]].&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 23:15, 23 January 2013 (UTC) :::You might ping someone more active at SPI to take a look. I got up extra early today just to reply to my talk page, but not sure I would have enough time to really look at this deep enough. I did look at the page, which was soapboxy and at the limit of my tolerance. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 11:30, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :::The more I look at this editor's history, the less happy I am. [[Mozio]] is written with an unambiguous conflict of interest, is essentially promotional in purpose (though not written in blatantly promotional terms, thus avoiding G11 speedy deletion). However, I don't really see a basis for an SPI, though Ryan is, of course, free to try one. [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson|talk]]) 12:26, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ::::Apparently he has acted on his threat slightly above and left on his own. [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">Automatic</span><span style="color:Orange">''Strikeout''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''T'''</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Orange">C</span>]])</small> 18:57, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :::::Actually he's still editing, although perhaps only to point out how illogical I am (which may be a public service). --[[User:Demiurge1000|Demiurge1000]] ([[User_talk:Demiurge1000|talk]]) 01:01, 25 January 2013 (UTC) == Dennis, I have to block you == [[File:Stop x nuvola.svg|left|30px]] '''You have been [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' for [[sloth]]. {{-}} <div class="user-block" style="background-color: #EBF4FF;"> [[File:Ambox blue question.svg|left|48px]] '''This blocked user is asking that his or her block be reviewed:''' :{{checkuser|1=Dennis Brown}} ---- '''Request reason:''': Blocked by abusive admin. I didn't do anything. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 00:41, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *In some cases, you may not in fact be blocked, or your block has already expired. Please check your block log. If no blocks are listed, or the latest one has already expired, then you have been autoblocked by the automated anti-vandalism systems. Please remove this request and follow these instructions instead for quick attention by an administrator. *Please read our guide to appealing blocks to make sure that your unblock request will help your case. You may change your request at any time. <div class="NavFrame collapsed" style="border: none;"><div class="NavHead" style="background-color: #D0E4FF;"> [[Wikipedia:Administrators|Administrator]] use only:</div> </div></div> *{{nao}}Requesting an unblock without addressing the reason for the block isn't going to get you anywhere. Can someone revoke talk page access?&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 01:13, 24 January 2013 (UTC) **sure, I'll be happy to impose a non-administrative TP rights revocation. [[User:Gtwfan52|Gtwfan52]] ([[User talk:Gtwfan52|talk]]) 01:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ***Please change the length of the block from undetermined to indefinite. After that we'll ban him.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 01:25, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ****We're at ANI 3.0 right now, ANI has been deprecated, but any ban discussion must take place at [[User talk:Drmies|ANI 2.0]] before any discussion of the sort can take place here per [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is a bureaucracy]]. However, you can bribe me and I'll cast a blind eye to an out of process ban discussion.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 01:29, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *****I'd watch where you cast your blind eye, Ryan, as it might go into orbit. We're actually in the Twilight Zone where ban discussions are not only common but are often decided based on the initial proposal (this waiting for community consensus is really pathetic).--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 01:36, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *****Ryan, I've saved you a few keystrokes by just creating the redirect for [[WP:ANI 2.0]]. I'm shocked no one had before. Posting here in hopes of initiating an epic deletion wheelwar between rouge and uptight admins. (Oh, right, this is Dennis's talk page... {{xt|rouge and uptight ''admin''}}.) If we can get ANI 3.0 to catch on, and I don't get indeffed for creating the 2.0 redirect, I'll create 3.0 too.''' —&nbsp;[[User:PinkAmpersand|<u><font color="000">PinkAmpers</font></u>]]'''[[User talk:PinkAmpersand|'''<u><font color="FF1493">&#38;</font></u>'''<font color="000"><sup>(<u>''Je vous invite à me parler''</u>)</sup></font>]] 02:00, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *Unblock '''declined'''; reason for requesting unblock is the same as reason for block. [[User:KillerChihuahua|Killer]][[User talk:KillerChihuahua|<font color="415651">Chihuahua</font>]] 01:43, 24 January 2013 (UTC) **This must be a compromised account... Dennis wouldn't do this. You've been bad and gotten yourself blocked. We need to bring this to ARBCOM and get you desysopped. Being a sloth is a felony. [[User:Vacation9|<span style="color:green">Vaca</span>]][[User talk:Vacation9|<span style="color:teal">tion</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Vacation9|<span style="color:orange">9</span>]] 01:48, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :Wow, April 1 already? How time flies when you oversleep. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 01:51, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ::Just imagine what will happen when it ''is'' April Fools. [[User:Vacation9|<span style="color:green">Vaca</span>]][[User talk:Vacation9|<span style="color:teal">tion</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Vacation9|<span style="color:orange">9</span>]] 01:53, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *By the way, it appears Drmies forgot to block Dennis after giving him the notice. I've blocked him myself using my nonexistant sysop powers. Please remember next time. [[User:Vacation9|<span style="color:green">Vaca</span>]][[User talk:Vacation9|<span style="color:teal">tion</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Vacation9|<span style="color:orange">9</span>]] 01:53, 24 January 2013 (UTC) **That would be an "Honor System" block. Kind of like the jailhouse in ''Support Your Local Sheriff'', which was unfinished and prisoners were expected to just stay there despite the lack of iron bars on the cells. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 01:59, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ***OK, I didn't ''really'' block him. It was a threat--I don't appreciate people who claim there's life outside this armpit of knowledge. Dennis sold out to the man, totally. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 02:00, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ****We know, we're taking sarcasm to the highest level. [[User:Vacation9|<span style="color:green">Vaca</span>]][[User talk:Vacation9|<span style="color:teal">tion</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Vacation9|<span style="color:orange">9</span>]] 02:04, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *****And humor to it's lowest level ;) I do miss the fun. I'm actually doing a great deal of reading right now, in particular about horticulture, hydroponics, indoor gardening, etc. with the goal of manufacturing and buying/selling some of the equipment used. I am a marketing guy by trade, after all. I told the boss man that it is kind of funny that I'm getting paid to read how to grow indoor "medicinal" marijuana, which really is part of it. I'm hanging up a couple of metal halide lights for testing in my sunroom to grow my garden starts for this year (cucumbers and squash, not pot) and chasing down suppliers in China and the US, plus this is the busy time of year to sell our existing products. The growing plants thing I actually like, I have a big garden each year. Normally I would say that growing vegetables is good for the soul, but being an admin, I don't have one. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 11:19, 24 January 2013 (UTC) I thought it was hilarious! But I won't write LOL.....wait......--[[User:Amadscientist|Amadscientist]] ([[User talk:Amadscientist|talk]]) 12:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *I'm sure some kind of [[WP:RFC]] is needed to decide this, I'm not sure what kind. Let's have an RFC to decide what RFC is appropriate. That will be Stage 1. Dennis will be allowed to make a statement to defend his sloth. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 16:48, 24 January 2013 (UTC) {{Ivmbox | image = yes | The [[WP:Arbitration Committee|Arbitration Committee]] has permitted [[WP:Administrators|administrators]] to impose discretionary sanctions (information on which is at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions]]) on any editor who is active on pages broadly related to [[User:Dennis Brown]]. Discretionary sanctions can be used against an editor who repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|purpose of Wikipedia]], satisfy any [[Wikipedia:Etiquette|standard of behavior]], or follow any [[Wikipedia:List of policies|normal editorial process]]. If you continue to misconduct yourself on pages relating to this topic, you may be placed under sanctions, which can include blocks, a revert limitation, or an article ban. 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Maybe I will go block a few new users that are just asking for help, that should satisfy him. ;-) [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 18:08, 24 January 2013 (UTC) == ''The Signpost'': 21 January 2013 == <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2013-01-21}} </div><!--Volume 9, Issue 04--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * '''[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost|Read this Signpost in full]]''' * [[Wikipedia:Signpost/Single|Single-page]] * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe|Unsubscribe]] * [[User:EdwardsBot|EdwardsBot]] ([[User talk:EdwardsBot|talk]]) 01:11, 24 January 2013 (UTC) </div> <!-- EdwardsBot 0446 --> == Enough of this frivolity! == Assuming you can drag yourself away from the witty talkpage banter here (and circumvent your block - I'm sure a clever technical guy like you can find a way...) perhaps you'd like to voice an opinion on [[User talk:Johncheverly|Johncheverly's latest unblock request]] - he seems to have adjusted his attitude since four months ago, and I'm inclined to think it might be worth letting him back into the fold. [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">雲</span>]]&zwj;[[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">水</span>]] 10:37, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :<small>On an unrelated note, hope you're over the lurgi now. All the best, [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">雲</span>]]&zwj;[[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">水</span>]] 10:37, 24 January 2013 (UTC)</small> *Feeling much better, just a little weak. Up before 6am as usual, and see my unblock request has exploded into much fun, which I do miss. As for John, I agree with you and think an unblock is warranted, as would be monitoring and perhaps a little mentoring. I notice Anthony gave him some tips on signatures, etc. and thinking that being new is part of the problem. Finding someone to help him for a couple of weeks will help him to better understand what we do here and prevent future issues. Perhaps a talk page stalker will volunteer. Mentoring isn't a pre-condition, just a good idea. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 11:10, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ::Mentoring's a good idea; I'll recommend it. Glad to hear you're back on your feet. [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">雲</span>]]&zwj;[[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">水</span>]] 11:12, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :::{{tps}} I have a lull in my adoption program, so if a mentor needs to be found, I could probably do so. If you have someone else, that's fine too. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 11:41, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ::::Perhaps just going there and volunteering would be good. I don't think it would take more than 2 or 3 weeks, and just being a "go to" person in the future. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 11:45, 24 January 2013 (UTC) == Head's up! == Someone who knows more than I about socks should take a look at this: [[User:MultipleAccountsAllowed]]. They seem to be saying Nananana Quack Quack. [[User:Gtwfan52|Gtwfan52]] ([[User talk:Gtwfan52|talk]]) 20:28, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *Looks like DQ already nabbed them. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 12:44, 26 January 2013 (UTC) == Is using multiple accounts just because you can a [[WP:POINT]] issue? == See [[User:MultipleAccountsAllowed]]. His edits don't appear to be anything to suggest that the second account has a legitimate purpose. They've been slightly disruptive, but not majorly so (asking questions at the Teahouse unrelated to editing), and they haven't engaged in serious sockpuppetry. That begs the question, can you have multiple accounts just because you can, or must there be a purpose to the second account. In addition, am I incorrect in assuming the accounts must be linked unless there is a privacy issue?&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 20:29, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :I'm pretty sure it's a sockpuppet of a blocked editor, so it's block evasion, which ups the ante. But I can't remember what the name of the master is, so I can't follow up on my hunch with any real evidence, so it'll remain a hunch, I suppose. [[User:Writ Keeper|Writ Keeper]] [[User Talk: Writ Keeper|&#9863;]][[Special:Contributions/Writ_Keeper|&#9812;]] 20:33, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ::[[User:DeFacto]]? [[User:Garamond Lethe|<span style="padding:3px;color:gray;font:400 0.9em 'Garamond', serif">Garamond</span>]][[User_talk:Garamond Lethe|<span style="padding:3px;color:gray;font:400 0.9em 'Garamond', serif">Lethe</span>]] 22:23, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *I'm considering going to Village pump (policy) with a proposal that all alternate accounts ''must'' be linked from the userpage unless the reason for the alternate account is privacy, in which case the editor must declare to ArbCom with both accounts.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 23:55, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :*I'd go stronger. I've always thought that undeclared alternate accounts should simply be forbidden. The idea that someone doesn't want to taint his edits in one area by association with another has never persuaded me. If there's some hotshot nuclear physicist out there that's also an expert on some kind of fetish, I'll happily do without one group of edits: there are other physicists and other fetishists out there that can pick up the slack.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 00:04, 25 January 2013 (UTC) My sister is in a cult. I want to maintain ''some'' kind of relationship with her, so when I edit in that topic area, I use an alternative account. There are countless good reasons for editors to have unconnected different accounts. Sorry if some arse holes do it for evil but constraining all editors as proposed here would be overreach. --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] ([[User talk:Anthonyhcole|talk]]) 00:17, 25 January 2013 (UTC) :I'd happily just live without your edits in the area. It's not overreach at all. One editor, one main account, with all other accounts being linked to it is a very reasonable restriction. The "countless good reasons" are known only to the people that have them and are completely unreviewed and unconsented to. How would I be able to tell, for example, whether your advocacy for sensitivity towards Islamic perspectives was or was not related to edit pertaining to your sister's cult? ''You'' may be comfortable that they are unrelated, but that doesn't mean that I necessarily am.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 00:30, 25 January 2013 (UTC) :::Sorry, implementing this rule would just cause otherwise good-faith editors to break it, or limit their ability to contribute, just so you can use it occasionally to catch baddies. I'm ''not'' editing that topic under my real name, and that's that. And I ''will'' continue to edit in any area I want, abiding by our content policies. I do appreciate that constraining disruptive editors is important, and I appreciate the work you all do in that regard, but in this case we have to balance the harm that will be prevented against the harm caused, and it's my opinion that such a rule would be imposing a constraint on good-faith editors that would not be justified by the benefits. --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] ([[User talk:Anthonyhcole|talk]]) 02:15, 25 January 2013 (UTC) ::I understand your point completely, but a system where they declare to arbcom is better than what we have now.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 00:37, 25 January 2013 (UTC) :::I'm torn on both sides, but current policy says it is allowed, which is sometimes taken as "soft", but there are really a lot of legitimate alt accounts in controversial area, more than most people realize. Likely, because they aren't causing problems so they go unnoticed, which is the whole purpose for the legitimate account. We only see a minority that are problematic, although they get all the attention. We have to be careful to not assume an alt account is a bad kind of sock (AGF and all) which is why fair SPI work will never be super fast. I have seen a great many legitimate socks via SPI and just around. This case, I'm not sure as I haven't looked close enough to have a valid opinion.[[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 00:45, 25 January 2013 (UTC) == MMA sock == Can you take a look at {{user|ExUFCStaffer}}? it's a [[WP:MEAT|meatpuppet]], at least. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: LightGray">'''[[User:Poison Whiskey|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#228B22">Poison</font>]] [[User talk:Poison Whiskey|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#000080">Whiskey</font>]]'''</SPAN> 13:46, 25 January 2013 (UTC) *Hard to draw a conclusion with just two diffs. Not enough diffs to draw a conclusion without a CU, and not sure I could justify one yet. You might try asking Elen of the Roads or DeltaQuad, who have CU access and have worked with several of the MMA socks. They would be more inclined to know who it is and can connect the dots. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 12:43, 26 January 2013 (UTC) ::I think the only purpose of this account was to send a "letter" to Jimbo. Looks like it's [[WP:SLEEPER|sleeping]] now, if it comes back i'll send a message to Elen. Regards — <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: LightGray">'''[[User:Poison Whiskey|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#228B22">Poison</font>]] [[User talk:Poison Whiskey|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#000080">Whiskey</font>]]'''</SPAN> 21:10, 26 January 2013 (UTC) == Would this interest you at all? == [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=534943748&oldid=534943013] I'm really just using you as an example of a ''kind'' of person - please don't feel dobbed in; but if it interests you, that would be good. --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] ([[User talk:Anthonyhcole|talk]]) 06:21, 26 January 2013 (UTC) *Just had time to look at it superficially, but it does look like he needs some mentoring or review. I'm not as quick to jump on desysoping someone when their "abuse" isn't towards other users and is instead focused on restoring content, even if it is against consensus. I would point out that Sarak is correct, that there really should be no controversy when an admin undeletes an article that was deleted by a PROD, we can do that for anyone we choose without question or consensus since it is technically a "dispute" over an "undisputed" deletion. There is a problems, unquestionably, and it is a common problem with old school admin. Some can make the transition, some can't. This is due in part to the fact that many wouldn't be willing to work by the more stringent rules that admin have to work by now. I'm tied with a lot of things right now, but this wouldn't be a huge job, so I would help if I can. It would be several weeks from now anyway. Not sure what I could do, or if I could help, however. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 12:39, 26 January 2013 (UTC) == Possible sockpuppet == Dennis and talk page stalkers, I'm pretty sure {{Userlinks|Chibanks}} is a sockpuppet given the way they jumped right in with span tags, templates, wikilinks and so on on {{la|TeamLilKim}} which they created about 4 hours after creating an account. But I have no idea who they might be a sock puppet of, I'm hoping that you or a stalker have come across a socker who has this MO? '''[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]''' ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 06:31, 26 January 2013 (UTC) *Does look odd, but no dot to connect to. I notice they say "protect OUR page" on their talk page. That is a red flag. I'm not here to follow up, but a calm asking if the account is being used by more than one person might be helpful. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 12:29, 26 January 2013 (UTC) ::Thanks Dennis, I've asked them. '''[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]''' ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 13:18, 26 January 2013 (UTC)'
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'{{User:MiszaBot/config |archiveheader = {{talk archive navigation}} |maxarchivesize = 150K |counter = 18 |minthreadsleft = 0 |minthreadstoarchive = 1 |algo = old(5d) |archive = User talk:Dennis Brown/Archive %(counter)d }} {{User talk:Dennis Brown/header}} {{Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard/RfA Report|style="float:left: clear:left;"}} == Sense of humour == Admin Dennis, do you happen to remember the user names who had some "sense of humour" and been cleared recently at the SPI, where I had reported them? Please give one minute of your time to read [[Talk:Araksi Çetinyan|this page]]. (I may provide more but it is enough to look at the "contributions" of the user to see why they are here, which agenda they follow and with which feelings they edit WP. Tried to write this without hurting those noble feelings.) All the best. --[[User:E4024|E4024]] ([[User talk:E4024|talk]]) 21:47, 17 January 2013 (UTC) Dennis, while you are at it could you possibly also investigate the behaviour of the user above who routinely uses derogatory and insulting language to describe his opponents, including insults through the use of edit-summaries, despite multiple warnings not to abuse the edit summary function for personal attacks. See here [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:E4024&diff=532603993&oldid=532477465 one of many warnings on his talkpage] about abuse of edit-summaries where he describes his perceived opponent as {{xt|blinded by anti-Turkish euphoria}} just because the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgios_Zariphis&diff=prev&oldid=532537456 other editor used non-Turkish names for some places], and this edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Araksi_%C3%87etinyan&diff=533766087&oldid=533608622 where he insults the same editor] through both the edit summary and the content of his comments. Thank you. [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 23:57, 18 January 2013 (UTC) Mr Brown if you find me a better role model then the user in this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greek_genocide&curid=4296727&diff=534023377&oldid=534002533 edit summary] I could follow them and be a more educated editor in time. Best. --[[User:E4024|E4024]] ([[User talk:E4024|talk]]) 16:59, 20 January 2013 (UTC) :Sure. Continue [[WP:BAIT|baiting]] your fellow editors and [[WP:BATTLE|abusing]] edit summaries: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Demographics_of_Turkey&diff=prev&oldid=534318643 Revision as of 12:12, 22 January 2013 E4024 (→‎Greeks: No need to sythetising. What about Cyprus events or EU accession (let us go to Greece and spend the money Germans spare) of Greece? Better write a blog.)] You set a great example of collaborative editing and civility. Or rather not. [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 04:25, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :I have no idea who had a sense of humor or not. As you can guess, I'm on massive OT, so not here much for a bit. Searching my contribs might help. As for role models, I'm confident (or at least hopeful) you two can work out the snippyness on your own. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 11:02, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ::Dennis I know you are busy. The giant stop sign and your edit notice message in a fuchsia background are unmistakable. I just wanted to point to you a few inconsistencies regarding the constant complaining of the editor above who complains to admins about other editors without owning up to his own chronic incivility. I gather from your comment about snippyness that my comments were summarily dismissed without investigation. I should have expected that since I knew you were busy. I am just surprised about the "snippyness" remark which means that I should not have tried to correct the record regarding the complaints of this editor for fear of appearing "snippy" while doing so. My conclusion is that I am in the wrong place at the wrong time and with wrong assumptions. Sorry for the inconvenience. [[User:Dr.K.|Δρ.Κ.]]&nbsp;<small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Dr.K.|λόγος]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-5.2ex;*left:-5.5ex">[[Special:Contributions/Dr.K.|πράξις]]</span></sup></small> 14:13, 24 January 2013 (UTC) == Out of order for a few days == I've been in bed all day, can't sleep a wink. Worst head cold I've had in two decades, face is so swollen that I literally can't focus to read the computer screen. I've had it for a few days, but it took a turn for the worse yesterday PM. Not as bad as having the flu, but Mrs. Brown is drowning me in Gatorade and chicken broth. Wikipedia is going to have to do without me for a few days, sorry. I just can't concentrate. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 01:24, 18 January 2013 (UTC) :Get well soon!&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 01:26, 18 January 2013 (UTC) ::Get your rest and eat the soup. Hope you feel better soon.--[[User:Amadscientist|Amadscientist]] ([[User talk:Amadscientist|talk]]) 01:38, 18 January 2013 (UTC) :::Finally got over something like that last week, though it wasn't nearly as bad as yours sounds. Feel better! [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 03:52, 18 January 2013 (UTC) ::::I might take the cake on this one. I just had an ultrasound to find out what was wrong with me yesterday, it turned up nothing. Now they're checking for [[Helicobacter pylori]] and I'm on [[Omeprazole]].&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 17:57, 18 January 2013 (UTC) :::::All right, Ryan. You win. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 20:08, 18 January 2013 (UTC) ::::::All I have to say is, "Ryan, EWWW YUK!". This has been a rough winter for many. Personally had a monster sinus infection, followed by cellulitis in the leg, followed by a cold and finally another sinus infection. I am spending the rest of the winter under my bed! Get well soon, Dennis! [[User:Gtwfan52|Gtwfan52]] ([[User talk:Gtwfan52|talk]]) 20:20, 18 January 2013 (UTC) :::::::Do we have ''any'' healthy editors left? Get well soon Dennis, and the rest of you lot too. [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">雲</span>]]&zwj;[[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">水</span>]] 00:03, 19 January 2013 (UTC) ::::::::{{tps}} Hope you feel better Dennis (and the rest of you) -- A tried and true remedy for anything that ails me is three shots of whiskey. Of course, if by chance that doesn't work, try four. [[User:Lettik|Lettik]] ([[User talk:Lettik|talk]]) 13:56, 19 January 2013 (UTC) :::::::::I wanna get in on the pity party! The skin on my hands is really dry and I'm kinda losing my voice! I know, doesn't exactly compete well with the above. In all seriousness, I hope you are better now (all of you). [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">Automatic</span><span style="color:Orange">''Strikeout''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''T'''</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Orange">C</span>]])</small> 22:13, 23 January 2013 (UTC) ::::::::::I know we don't communicate much, but I do hope you (and Ryan, and Gtw, and Automatic) feel better! :) [[User:Keilana|Keilana]]&#124;<sup>[[User talk:Keilana|Parlez ici]]</sup> 05:55, 24 January 2013 (UTC) == [[Wikipedia:Editor of the Week|Editor of the Week]] == Dennis, I wanted to officially inform you that the project you suggested, an editor of the week, has been started largely due to the diligence of [[User:Isaacl]] and [[User:Amadscientist]] with help and ideas from [[User:Buster7]], [[User:AutomaticStrikeout]], [[User:Gtwfan52]], and [[User:TheOriginalSoni]]. We have recognized two recipients thus far: [[User:Kelvinsong]] and [[User:EricEnfermero]]. We do have a solid infrastructure set up, which should mean that the project is sustainable as long as we keep getting new nominations. Thanks for your suggestion, and feel free to submit any nominees you may have. --[[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 04:13, 21 January 2013 (UTC) *Excellent. I haven't even been able to look at Wikipedia in order a day, and currently hanging up aux. lighting at the house, so just dropped by to see what is going on. Like I said, this time of year, I'm swamped. I'm also very thankful that so many users have just jumped in and made it happen. I prefer it, actually. You guys don't need me, I'm just the cheerleader :) I think that if you advertise the program around a bit, you will find plenty of nominees. You might even drop a note at WP:AN, asking admin to nominate some every day users they run across that are extremely helpful and often overlooked. One of the village pump pages would also be good. Personally, I would suggest one place per week, stretch it out over several weeks, so you don't get a giant flood all at one time. I'm sincerely impressed with how you guys took a basic idea and ran with it. We worry a lot about the problems here, but this is one of those positive solutions that makes a difference, too. Thanks again. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 23:10, 21 January 2013 (UTC) [[File:Pompon.jpg|thumb|Dennis Brown's cheerleader pom-pons]] **I had made a suggestion at one of the discussion pages for this that maybe you could put something out on an administrator email list, if such a thing exists. [[User:Gtwfan52|Gtwfan52]] ([[User talk:Gtwfan52|talk]]) 23:19, 21 January 2013 (UTC) ***No admin email list exists, that what WP:AN is for, for admin notices. Finished hanging the lights, time to cook dinner and get in at least two hours of research for work tonight. I have to remind myself that I get lots of time off in the summer and fall... [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 23:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC) ****Time off is for whimps. ;)--[[User:Amadscientist|Amadscientist]] ([[User talk:Amadscientist|talk]]) 03:50, 22 January 2013 (UTC) *****Dude, the wheels are coming off. Quit your day job, man. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 18:42, 22 January 2013 (UTC) ******What's all this twaddle about cooking dinner, hanging lights and doing research?? Isnt all that mundane common-man stuff why you have [[Downton Abbey|hired help]]? ```[[User: Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black">Buster Seven</em>''']]<small>[[User talk:Buster7|'''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Talk</em>''']]</small> 21:04, 22 January 2013 (UTC) *******Yeah, I agree. Who needs dinner, electricity, and income when Wikipedia is falling apart at the seams? [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 21:09, 22 January 2013 (UTC) ********Actually, hanging lights is part of my job, at least the research and development part. Looking into selling horticultural supplies for the indoor market. Recent developments in American politics make me think it is going to be a rapidly expanding market. Of course, I don't live in one of those states, so I will stick to growing veggies. Alabama is expected to be the next state to legalize medicinal marijuana, btw. That is a tiny part of the indoor horticultural market is all, but an important one nonetheless. And I ''used'' to have "help", back when we owned a couple shops and the economy wasn't in the tank. We had to take them out back and shoot them, couldn't afford to feed them any more.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2S9WDgeZ_o] (that link is just for Drmies, since I know that is his favorite show) I miss 2002-2005. I would even take 8 more years of Bill Clinton if I had to. As for enwp falling apart, you flatter me. I'm sure there are number of people, some with more bits than others, that are celebrating the fact that I'm too busy to edit right now. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 13:50, 23 January 2013 (UTC) == Hey Dennis, and stalkers with tools: glad you're reading ANI 3.0 == Listen, Dennis, if you're around: I protected [[Charles Eisenstein]] due to socking concerns, filed a related SPI--and then jumped right in and started editing the article, having conveniently forgotten that I had protected it. That's probably not entirely kosher, so I unprotected it. I still think that semi-protection is warranted, but I will leave that up to the next admin. Thanks. On a brighter note, remember my human baby boy? He turned five months old a few days ago, and as of tonight he has his own Facebook page. Lots of goodlooking women flock to him. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 03:34, 22 January 2013 (UTC) :This is ANI 3.0? Anyway, I did the semiprotection for two weeks, since I've no idea who this guy is and I haven't edited his article. The filing of an SPI (already done) should be enough justification for the semi. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 03:44, 22 January 2013 (UTC) ::I don't know if Dennis wants his page to be ANI 3.0....but it sorta is. :)--[[User:Amadscientist|Amadscientist]] ([[User talk:Amadscientist|talk]]) 03:49, 22 January 2013 (UTC) :::Hey, if [[User talk:Drmies|ANI 2.0]] gets boring, I come over here. Thanks Ed. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 04:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC) ::::Hey Drmies, when is this boy of yours gonna get an account? After all, we always need more flesh blood. If he can be on facebook, he can edit, right? [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">Automatic</span><span style="color:Orange">''Strikeout''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''T'''</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Orange">C</span>]])</small> 02:47, 23 January 2013 (UTC) :::::<small>*Fresh blood. Sorry to be the grammar nazi. [[User:Basalisk|<font color="green">'''Basa'''</font><font color="CC9900">'''lisk'''</font>]]&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Basalisk|<sup><font color="green">inspect damage</font></sup>]]⁄[[User talk:Basalisk|<sub><font color="CC9900">berate</font></sub>]] 12:11, 23 January 2013 (UTC)</small> ::::::<small>''Spelling'' Nazi. Sorry to be the terminology Nazi... [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">雲</span>]]&zwj;[[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">水</span>]] 12:25, 23 January 2013 (UTC)</small> :::::::<small>Spelling ''fascist''. Sorry to be the sociopolitical Nazi ([[User talk:Bwilkins|✉→]]'''[[User:Bwilkins|BWilkins]]'''[[Special:Contributions/Bwilkins|←✎]]) 12:36, 23 January 2013 (UTC) ::::::::<Small>Spelling errorist. Not sorry though.--[[User:Amadscientist|Amadscientist]] ([[User talk:Amadscientist|talk]]) 12:46, 23 January 2013 (UTC)</small> :::::::::ANI 3.0?!? If you are trying to talk me into spending more time here, it ain't workin' ;) But seriously, we are in the middle of both the busiest time of year for me (next 3 months, the only time of year I actually work) and I'm right in the middle of researching and developing a completely different product line, sourcing parts, etc. It would be much easier if I spoke [[Standard Chinese|Mandarin]]. Starting my 20th year here, and it never gets boring, literally working 16+ hours from the office and home right now. The joys of being a greedy, money grubbing marketing director. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 13:42, 23 January 2013 (UTC) ::::::::::I prefer working metaphorically, Dennis. Wait--20 years? They stuck it out with you that long? [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 02:02, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :::::::::::That is more ironic than you know. When I started, My hair was very long, I played guitar in a rockabilly band so had to leave to travel to gigs a lot (boss was very cool about that) and I came in as a temp employee to help for 3 months, that was 1994. Since I had a background in marketing, mad computer skills, a decade of marketing experience and could work on anything with wires, he decided to keep me year round. Since I could take off just about any time I needed to play with the band, I stuck around, created a real marketing dept. and within a few years, sales were up 10x and we had bought out a manufacturer. I accidentally grew up along the way. Probably about the time the tendinitis forced me to quit playing guitar. No one is more shocked that I stuck around than I am. Now I'm too lazy to go get a real job, preferring to work 3 months a year and fishing the rest. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 11:28, 24 January 2013 (UTC) == You'll probably say no == I noticed a statement on [[User:Carrot Lord]]'s user page at [[User:Carrot Lord#Warning: Expert Wikipedian abusing power]]. He goes on to say that if any Wikipedian asks him to remove the statement, he'll leave Wikipedia forever. The warning is clearly inappropriate if used, and I'll bring him to ANI if he attempts to use it again, but there's nothing about having it on his user page that justifies anything. It was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ACarrot_Lord&diff=534385347&oldid=534347501 removed] by a clear vandal (Farty farty poopfarts) who left the comment "I have requested the removal of this section from this user page, because it is not appropriate for Wikipedians to see." That comment was either mimicking Carrot Lord's comment "If any Wikipedian decides to request the removal of this section from my own user page because it is not appropriate for Wikipedians to see, I will most likely leave Wikipedia forever, out of shame and disgust for such a filthy policy system." or was like his comment for a reason (if my hunch is correct). Carrot Lord reverts this comment, and proceeds to use his warning like message thingy on Farty's page. (since deleted by JamesBWatson, so you'd need to look into the history) I removed it, Carrot Lord restored it, AS removed it. When I removed it, I left a note on Carrot Lord's talk page [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACarrot_Lord&diff=534519823&oldid=534481752] Carrot Lord told me to be careful next time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Carrot_Lord&diff=next&oldid=534519823] then removed the section. JamesBWatson has warned him for the vandalism. Farty is now blocked by the way. Here's my hunch. This looks to me like a possible good cop, bad cop type of thing. I think it's possible that Carrot Lord created farty to remove the info from his own userpage so that he could use the statement on Farty's user page. What I'm curious about is the possibility that this is some type of a sockfarm in the making and if CU should be used, or if we should just wait and watch Carrot Lord to see what happens.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 18:23, 23 January 2013 (UTC) :I have no doubt that the two accounts are the same person. What the purpose is, is difficult to tell. The best guess I can come up with is that Carrot Lord created a silly warning message, and then created a spoof vandalism account to give himself an opportunity to use the silly message. If so, it comes under the category of using Wikipedia as a playground, but perhaps nothing worse than that. If there is more to it than that, or if there isn't but Carrot Lord does more of the same, then it may be worth thinking of taking further steps, but at present I don't see any need for further action. [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson|talk]]) 18:44, 23 January 2013 (UTC) ::My question is: How do we know that Carrot Lord hasn't created other socks before (assuming that this is a sockpuppeting case, which it might not be)? [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">Automatic</span><span style="color:Orange">''Strikeout''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''T'''</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Orange">C</span>]])</small> 18:47, 23 January 2013 (UTC) ::: This is absolutely a joke. A sick joke. I am leaving Wikipedia as a contributor. Forever. And I promise to bankrupt it, and make a better Wikipedia using MediaWiki software. This community is disgusting. I tried to report User:Kevin Gorman for sock puppeting. Everyone laughed at me. Now I am not a sock puppeteer. And you accuse me of idiocy. This is the worst and most evil dictatorship on Earth. Wikipedia itself, especially the admins. Especially the high level users. Disgusting. --[[User:Carrot Lord|Carrot Lord]] ([[User talk:Carrot Lord|talk]]) 12:56, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *The more I look, the more concerned I get. He has [http://en.wikichecker.com/user/?t=Carrot+Lord&l=all 270 edits to his userpage], I just removed a personal attack on Jimbo Wales no less [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ACarrot_Lord%2FShrine_of_Wikipe-tan&diff=534555211&oldid=534039307 here], the article he's edited most is [[Mozio]], it looks like there were some clear conflict of interest issues that led to the article being stubbified by Kevin Gorman, I just did a minor rewrite to the lead because it misinformed the reader.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 21:54, 23 January 2013 (UTC) :*His comments related to women are just weird, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACarrot_Lord&diff=534565369&oldid=534561456 this] and the creation of [[User:Carrot Lord/Miss Wikipedia]].&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 23:15, 23 January 2013 (UTC) :::You might ping someone more active at SPI to take a look. I got up extra early today just to reply to my talk page, but not sure I would have enough time to really look at this deep enough. I did look at the page, which was soapboxy and at the limit of my tolerance. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 11:30, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :::The more I look at this editor's history, the less happy I am. [[Mozio]] is written with an unambiguous conflict of interest, is essentially promotional in purpose (though not written in blatantly promotional terms, thus avoiding G11 speedy deletion). However, I don't really see a basis for an SPI, though Ryan is, of course, free to try one. [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson|talk]]) 12:26, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ::::Apparently he has acted on his threat slightly above and left on his own. [[User:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">Automatic</span><span style="color:Orange">''Strikeout''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Blue">'''T'''</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/AutomaticStrikeout|<span style="color:Orange">C</span>]])</small> 18:57, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :::::Actually he's still editing, although perhaps only to point out how illogical I am (which may be a public service). --[[User:Demiurge1000|Demiurge1000]] ([[User_talk:Demiurge1000|talk]]) 01:01, 25 January 2013 (UTC) == Dennis, I have to block you == [[File:Stop x nuvola.svg|left|30px]] '''You have been [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' for [[sloth]]. {{-}} <div class="user-block" style="background-color: #EBF4FF;"> [[File:Ambox blue question.svg|left|48px]] '''This blocked user is asking that his or her block be reviewed:''' :{{checkuser|1=Dennis Brown}} ---- '''Request reason:''': Blocked by abusive admin. I didn't do anything. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 00:41, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *In some cases, you may not in fact be blocked, or your block has already expired. Please check your block log. If no blocks are listed, or the latest one has already expired, then you have been autoblocked by the automated anti-vandalism systems. Please remove this request and follow these instructions instead for quick attention by an administrator. *Please read our guide to appealing blocks to make sure that your unblock request will help your case. You may change your request at any time. <div class="NavFrame collapsed" style="border: none;"><div class="NavHead" style="background-color: #D0E4FF;"> [[Wikipedia:Administrators|Administrator]] use only:</div> </div></div> *{{nao}}Requesting an unblock without addressing the reason for the block isn't going to get you anywhere. Can someone revoke talk page access?&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 01:13, 24 January 2013 (UTC) **sure, I'll be happy to impose a non-administrative TP rights revocation. [[User:Gtwfan52|Gtwfan52]] ([[User talk:Gtwfan52|talk]]) 01:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ***Please change the length of the block from undetermined to indefinite. After that we'll ban him.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 01:25, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ****We're at ANI 3.0 right now, ANI has been deprecated, but any ban discussion must take place at [[User talk:Drmies|ANI 2.0]] before any discussion of the sort can take place here per [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is a bureaucracy]]. However, you can bribe me and I'll cast a blind eye to an out of process ban discussion.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 01:29, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *****I'd watch where you cast your blind eye, Ryan, as it might go into orbit. We're actually in the Twilight Zone where ban discussions are not only common but are often decided based on the initial proposal (this waiting for community consensus is really pathetic).--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 01:36, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *****Ryan, I've saved you a few keystrokes by just creating the redirect for [[WP:ANI 2.0]]. I'm shocked no one had before. Posting here in hopes of initiating an epic deletion wheelwar between rouge and uptight admins. (Oh, right, this is Dennis's talk page... {{xt|rouge and uptight ''admin''}}.) If we can get ANI 3.0 to catch on, and I don't get indeffed for creating the 2.0 redirect, I'll create 3.0 too.''' —&nbsp;[[User:PinkAmpersand|<u><font color="000">PinkAmpers</font></u>]]'''[[User talk:PinkAmpersand|'''<u><font color="FF1493">&#38;</font></u>'''<font color="000"><sup>(<u>''Je vous invite à me parler''</u>)</sup></font>]] 02:00, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *Unblock '''declined'''; reason for requesting unblock is the same as reason for block. [[User:KillerChihuahua|Killer]][[User talk:KillerChihuahua|<font color="415651">Chihuahua</font>]] 01:43, 24 January 2013 (UTC) **This must be a compromised account... Dennis wouldn't do this. You've been bad and gotten yourself blocked. We need to bring this to ARBCOM and get you desysopped. Being a sloth is a felony. [[User:Vacation9|<span style="color:green">Vaca</span>]][[User talk:Vacation9|<span style="color:teal">tion</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Vacation9|<span style="color:orange">9</span>]] 01:48, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :Wow, April 1 already? How time flies when you oversleep. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 01:51, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ::Just imagine what will happen when it ''is'' April Fools. [[User:Vacation9|<span style="color:green">Vaca</span>]][[User talk:Vacation9|<span style="color:teal">tion</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Vacation9|<span style="color:orange">9</span>]] 01:53, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *By the way, it appears Drmies forgot to block Dennis after giving him the notice. I've blocked him myself using my nonexistant sysop powers. Please remember next time. [[User:Vacation9|<span style="color:green">Vaca</span>]][[User talk:Vacation9|<span style="color:teal">tion</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Vacation9|<span style="color:orange">9</span>]] 01:53, 24 January 2013 (UTC) **That would be an "Honor System" block. Kind of like the jailhouse in ''Support Your Local Sheriff'', which was unfinished and prisoners were expected to just stay there despite the lack of iron bars on the cells. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 01:59, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ***OK, I didn't ''really'' block him. It was a threat--I don't appreciate people who claim there's life outside this armpit of knowledge. Dennis sold out to the man, totally. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 02:00, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ****We know, we're taking sarcasm to the highest level. [[User:Vacation9|<span style="color:green">Vaca</span>]][[User talk:Vacation9|<span style="color:teal">tion</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Vacation9|<span style="color:orange">9</span>]] 02:04, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *****And humor to it's lowest level ;) I do miss the fun. I'm actually doing a great deal of reading right now, in particular about horticulture, hydroponics, indoor gardening, etc. with the goal of manufacturing and buying/selling some of the equipment used. I am a marketing guy by trade, after all. I told the boss man that it is kind of funny that I'm getting paid to read how to grow indoor "medicinal" marijuana, which really is part of it. I'm hanging up a couple of metal halide lights for testing in my sunroom to grow my garden starts for this year (cucumbers and squash, not pot) and chasing down suppliers in China and the US, plus this is the busy time of year to sell our existing products. The growing plants thing I actually like, I have a big garden each year. Normally I would say that growing vegetables is good for the soul, but being an admin, I don't have one. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 11:19, 24 January 2013 (UTC) I thought it was hilarious! But I won't write LOL.....wait......--[[User:Amadscientist|Amadscientist]] ([[User talk:Amadscientist|talk]]) 12:18, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *I'm sure some kind of [[WP:RFC]] is needed to decide this, I'm not sure what kind. Let's have an RFC to decide what RFC is appropriate. That will be Stage 1. Dennis will be allowed to make a statement to defend his sloth. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 16:48, 24 January 2013 (UTC) {{Ivmbox | image = yes | The [[WP:Arbitration Committee|Arbitration Committee]] has permitted [[WP:Administrators|administrators]] to impose discretionary sanctions (information on which is at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions]]) on any editor who is active on pages broadly related to [[User:Dennis Brown]]. Discretionary sanctions can be used against an editor who repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|purpose of Wikipedia]], satisfy any [[Wikipedia:Etiquette|standard of behavior]], or follow any [[Wikipedia:List of policies|normal editorial process]]. If you continue to misconduct yourself on pages relating to this topic, you may be placed under sanctions, which can include blocks, a revert limitation, or an article ban. The Committee's full decision can be read at the "[[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience#Final decision|Final decision]]" section of the decision page. Please familiarise yourself with the information page at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions]], with the appropriate sections of [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures]], and with the case decision page before making any further edits to the pages in question. This notice is given by an uninvolved administrator and&nbsp;will be logged on the case decision, pursuant to the conditions of the Arbitration Committee's discretionary sanctions system.<!-- Template:uw-sanctions - {{{topic|{{{t}}}}}} --> | valign = center | [[Image:Ambox warning pn.svg|35px|alt=|link=]] }} *Does this mean I can't talk on my own page? I also liked how you linked "Final decision", good choice, as Drmies seems to be declaring me a pseudoadmin. Maybe I will go block a few new users that are just asking for help, that should satisfy him. ;-) [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 18:08, 24 January 2013 (UTC) == ''The Signpost'': 21 January 2013 == <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2013-01-21}} </div><!--Volume 9, Issue 04--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * '''[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost|Read this Signpost in full]]''' * [[Wikipedia:Signpost/Single|Single-page]] * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe|Unsubscribe]] * [[User:EdwardsBot|EdwardsBot]] ([[User talk:EdwardsBot|talk]]) 01:11, 24 January 2013 (UTC) </div> <!-- EdwardsBot 0446 --> == Enough of this frivolity! == Assuming you can drag yourself away from the witty talkpage banter here (and circumvent your block - I'm sure a clever technical guy like you can find a way...) perhaps you'd like to voice an opinion on [[User talk:Johncheverly|Johncheverly's latest unblock request]] - he seems to have adjusted his attitude since four months ago, and I'm inclined to think it might be worth letting him back into the fold. [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">雲</span>]]&zwj;[[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">水</span>]] 10:37, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :<small>On an unrelated note, hope you're over the lurgi now. All the best, [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">雲</span>]]&zwj;[[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">水</span>]] 10:37, 24 January 2013 (UTC)</small> *Feeling much better, just a little weak. Up before 6am as usual, and see my unblock request has exploded into much fun, which I do miss. As for John, I agree with you and think an unblock is warranted, as would be monitoring and perhaps a little mentoring. I notice Anthony gave him some tips on signatures, etc. and thinking that being new is part of the problem. Finding someone to help him for a couple of weeks will help him to better understand what we do here and prevent future issues. Perhaps a talk page stalker will volunteer. Mentoring isn't a pre-condition, just a good idea. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 11:10, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ::Mentoring's a good idea; I'll recommend it. Glad to hear you're back on your feet. [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">雲</span>]]&zwj;[[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<span style="font-size:110%">水</span>]] 11:12, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :::{{tps}} I have a lull in my adoption program, so if a mentor needs to be found, I could probably do so. If you have someone else, that's fine too. [[User: Go Phightins!|<span style="color:blue">'''Go'''</span>]] [[User talk:Go Phightins!|<span style="color:#E90004">'''''Phightins'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Go_Phightins!|<span style="color:#008504">'''!'''</span>]] 11:41, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ::::Perhaps just going there and volunteering would be good. I don't think it would take more than 2 or 3 weeks, and just being a "go to" person in the future. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 11:45, 24 January 2013 (UTC) == Head's up! == Someone who knows more than I about socks should take a look at this: [[User:MultipleAccountsAllowed]]. They seem to be saying Nananana Quack Quack. [[User:Gtwfan52|Gtwfan52]] ([[User talk:Gtwfan52|talk]]) 20:28, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *Looks like DQ already nabbed them. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 12:44, 26 January 2013 (UTC) == Is using multiple accounts just because you can a [[WP:POINT]] issue? == See [[User:MultipleAccountsAllowed]]. His edits don't appear to be anything to suggest that the second account has a legitimate purpose. They've been slightly disruptive, but not majorly so (asking questions at the Teahouse unrelated to editing), and they haven't engaged in serious sockpuppetry. That begs the question, can you have multiple accounts just because you can, or must there be a purpose to the second account. In addition, am I incorrect in assuming the accounts must be linked unless there is a privacy issue?&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 20:29, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :I'm pretty sure it's a sockpuppet of a blocked editor, so it's block evasion, which ups the ante. But I can't remember what the name of the master is, so I can't follow up on my hunch with any real evidence, so it'll remain a hunch, I suppose. [[User:Writ Keeper|Writ Keeper]] [[User Talk: Writ Keeper|&#9863;]][[Special:Contributions/Writ_Keeper|&#9812;]] 20:33, 24 January 2013 (UTC) ::[[User:DeFacto]]? [[User:Garamond Lethe|<span style="padding:3px;color:gray;font:400 0.9em 'Garamond', serif">Garamond</span>]][[User_talk:Garamond Lethe|<span style="padding:3px;color:gray;font:400 0.9em 'Garamond', serif">Lethe</span>]] 22:23, 24 January 2013 (UTC) *I'm considering going to Village pump (policy) with a proposal that all alternate accounts ''must'' be linked from the userpage unless the reason for the alternate account is privacy, in which case the editor must declare to ArbCom with both accounts.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 23:55, 24 January 2013 (UTC) :*I'd go stronger. I've always thought that undeclared alternate accounts should simply be forbidden. The idea that someone doesn't want to taint his edits in one area by association with another has never persuaded me. If there's some hotshot nuclear physicist out there that's also an expert on some kind of fetish, I'll happily do without one group of edits: there are other physicists and other fetishists out there that can pick up the slack.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 00:04, 25 January 2013 (UTC) My sister is in a cult. I want to maintain ''some'' kind of relationship with her, so when I edit in that topic area, I use an alternative account. There are countless good reasons for editors to have unconnected different accounts. Sorry if some arse holes do it for evil but constraining all editors as proposed here would be overreach. --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] ([[User talk:Anthonyhcole|talk]]) 00:17, 25 January 2013 (UTC) :I'd happily just live without your edits in the area. It's not overreach at all. One editor, one main account, with all other accounts being linked to it is a very reasonable restriction. The "countless good reasons" are known only to the people that have them and are completely unreviewed and unconsented to. How would I be able to tell, for example, whether your advocacy for sensitivity towards Islamic perspectives was or was not related to edit pertaining to your sister's cult? ''You'' may be comfortable that they are unrelated, but that doesn't mean that I necessarily am.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 00:30, 25 January 2013 (UTC) :::Sorry, implementing this rule would just cause otherwise good-faith editors to break it, or limit their ability to contribute, just so you can use it occasionally to catch baddies. I'm ''not'' editing that topic under my real name, and that's that. And I ''will'' continue to edit in any area I want, abiding by our content policies. I do appreciate that constraining disruptive editors is important, and I appreciate the work you all do in that regard, but in this case we have to balance the harm that will be prevented against the harm caused, and it's my opinion that such a rule would be imposing a constraint on good-faith editors that would not be justified by the benefits. --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] ([[User talk:Anthonyhcole|talk]]) 02:15, 25 January 2013 (UTC) ::I understand your point completely, but a system where they declare to arbcom is better than what we have now.&nbsp;[[User:Ryan Vesey|'''''Ryan''''']]&nbsp;[[User talk:Ryan Vesey|'''''Vesey''''']] 00:37, 25 January 2013 (UTC) :::I'm torn on both sides, but current policy says it is allowed, which is sometimes taken as "soft", but there are really a lot of legitimate alt accounts in controversial area, more than most people realize. Likely, because they aren't causing problems so they go unnoticed, which is the whole purpose for the legitimate account. We only see a minority that are problematic, although they get all the attention. We have to be careful to not assume an alt account is a bad kind of sock (AGF and all) which is why fair SPI work will never be super fast. I have seen a great many legitimate socks via SPI and just around. This case, I'm not sure as I haven't looked close enough to have a valid opinion.[[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 00:45, 25 January 2013 (UTC) == MMA sock == Can you take a look at {{user|ExUFCStaffer}}? it's a [[WP:MEAT|meatpuppet]], at least. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: LightGray">'''[[User:Poison Whiskey|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#228B22">Poison</font>]] [[User talk:Poison Whiskey|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#000080">Whiskey</font>]]'''</SPAN> 13:46, 25 January 2013 (UTC) *Hard to draw a conclusion with just two diffs. Not enough diffs to draw a conclusion without a CU, and not sure I could justify one yet. You might try asking Elen of the Roads or DeltaQuad, who have CU access and have worked with several of the MMA socks. They would be more inclined to know who it is and can connect the dots. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 12:43, 26 January 2013 (UTC) ::I think the only purpose of this account was to send a "letter" to Jimbo. Looks like it's [[WP:SLEEPER|sleeping]] now, if it comes back i'll send a message to Elen. Regards — <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: LightGray">'''[[User:Poison Whiskey|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#228B22">Poison</font>]] [[User talk:Poison Whiskey|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#000080">Whiskey</font>]]'''</SPAN> 21:10, 26 January 2013 (UTC) == Would this interest you at all? == [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=534943748&oldid=534943013] I'm really just using you as an example of a ''kind'' of person - please don't feel dobbed in; but if it interests you, that would be good. --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] ([[User talk:Anthonyhcole|talk]]) 06:21, 26 January 2013 (UTC) *Just had time to look at it superficially, but it does look like he needs some mentoring or review. I'm not as quick to jump on desysoping someone when their "abuse" isn't towards other users and is instead focused on restoring content, even if it is against consensus. I would point out that Sarak is correct, that there really should be no controversy when an admin undeletes an article that was deleted by a PROD, we can do that for anyone we choose without question or consensus since it is technically a "dispute" over an "undisputed" deletion. There is a problems, unquestionably, and it is a common problem with old school admin. Some can make the transition, some can't. This is due in part to the fact that many wouldn't be willing to work by the more stringent rules that admin have to work by now. I'm tied with a lot of things right now, but this wouldn't be a huge job, so I would help if I can. It would be several weeks from now anyway. Not sure what I could do, or if I could help, however. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 12:39, 26 January 2013 (UTC) == Possible sockpuppet == Dennis and talk page stalkers, I'm pretty sure {{Userlinks|Chibanks}} is a sockpuppet given the way they jumped right in with span tags, templates, wikilinks and so on on {{la|TeamLilKim}} which they created about 4 hours after creating an account. But I have no idea who they might be a sock puppet of, I'm hoping that you or a stalker have come across a socker who has this MO? '''[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]''' ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 06:31, 26 January 2013 (UTC) *Does look odd, but no dot to connect to. I notice they say "protect OUR page" on their talk page. That is a red flag. I'm not here to follow up, but a calm asking if the account is being used by more than one person might be helpful. [[User:Dennis Brown|<b>Dennis Brown</b>]] - [[User talk:Dennis Brown|<small>2&cent;</small>]] [[Special:Contributions/Dennis_Brown|<small>&copy;</small>]] <small><b>[[WP:WikiProject Editor Retention|Join WER]]</b></small> 12:29, 26 January 2013 (UTC) ::Thanks Dennis, I've asked them. '''[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]''' ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 13:18, 26 January 2013 (UTC) == A barnstar for you! == {| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;" |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | [[File:Administrator Barnstar Hires.png|100px]] |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''The Admin's Barnstar''' |- |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for your efforts in stopping another sockpuppet of Bambifan101. Keep up the good work as an administrator! ~~~~ |}'
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