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== [[Weiquan movement]] is now a Good Article! ==
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==Falun Gong==
Thank you for pinging me on my talk page. I do not care about Falung Gong, I'm just a casual bystander who reviews the sources. I've contributed in the past to [[Ahimsa]] which might appear as close by topic. Religions and its influence on society are interesting to me. I'd appreciate source sharing. We are required to base Wikipedia material on high quality scholar secondary reliable sources, though I find an idea of hierarchy of authority among sources as partially contradicting npov principle. I do not consider any source, even high quality one as "authoritative". Skepticism is healthy. You do appear as knowledgeable about Falun Dafa, why do you find the topic as interesting? [[User:AgadaUrbanit|AgadaUrbanit]] ([[User talk:AgadaUrbanit|talk]]) 20:22, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
:Well, I agree that no one source is authoritative, but some are certainly better than others. The topic of Falun Gong attracts scholars in several different fields, including political science, religious studies (both from a NRM and Eastern religion point of view), history, anthropology, human rights, and so on. I believe in using the sources in accordance with their individual expertise, so I wouldn't take the word of a political scientist on the interpretation of religious doctrine, nor the word of an anthropologist on Chinese politics. I also think that, when describing contentious aspects of Falun Gong, it is both possible and desirable to distinguish which sources are more authoritative than others in different areas. This is less subjective than one would think; at least in the case of professional academics, it can be measured pretty reliably by the scholar's credentials and the relevance of their field of study, the amount they have published on this subject, where they have published, the nature of their methodology, and how they are regarded by top scholars on the subject of Falun Gong. So, for example, Maria Hsia Chang would seem to fare pretty well by several of these measures, but fails when it comes to how well she is regarded by other top Falun Gong scholars, who either ignore her research or deride it. Also, as I mentioned on the talk page, she is a political scientist, so can't be assumed to be an expert on interpreting complex religious theology. David Ownby is an excellent source on many facets of Falun Gong's history and beliefs, but not on the human rights dimensions. James Tong knows a lot about the background and inner workings of the suppression (particularly from the Communist Party's end, having based his research almost entirely on official documents), but knows nothing about Falun Gong as a religious belief system. And so on. Anyways, I'll send you an email at some point with my recommendations. I've been meaning to put something together for a while.
:As to my interest, my background is in comparative politics with a focus on China. Chinese religion is a personal, casual interest of mine, but my professional expertise concerns contemporary Chinese politics, democratization, social movements, and so on. Falun Gong has always been on my radar, but a year or two ago I started presenting and publishing some papers on Falun Gong and topics related to it, so had to become more familiar with all the literature overall.[[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 20:57, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
== Penny ==
You [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AFalun_Gong&action=historysubmit&diff=477139940&oldid=477091692 referred here] to a new Penny source. I'm just wondering how you could have obtained s review copy? Are you a member of the press, or are you an otherwise interested party? --<small>[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>¡digame!</sup>]]</small> 09:20, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
:I am not a member of the press, no. Academic books are often circulated for review and comment to others with an expertise in the field. I didn’t receive a copy directly from Penny or the publisher, but from another colleague who knew I was researching the subject. I apologize that I didn't check the month of publication. If you have an ongoing interest in the topic, you should order it; it's perhaps the first really serious attempt to put FG teachings into the context of Buddhist / Daoist cultivation tradition, rather than just speculating on a lineage connection to millennial or secret societies of imperial China (some of it is still highly speculative, which is unfortunate, but it's still good.)[[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 18:02, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Absence of terrorosm in Tibet ==
I think [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Terrorism_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China&diff=480505487&oldid=480387497 this edit] of yours introduces a pretty horrendous example of [[WP:EDITORIAL|editorialisation]] to the article. Without meaning to insult you in any way, this text seems to be the sort of style of the ''Epoch Times''. I have therefore removed it. If you disagree, perhaps you ought to consider gathering more third party sources about how there is also an absence of terrorism in, say, Guangdong, or Yunnan, or indeed anywhere else in China except Xinjiang or the big cities that are targets. In addition, there is the explicit reference to actions being perpetrated by a very small 'hard core' of extremists – seems to me that this is the case for terrorist acts almost everywhere else in the world ... --<small>[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>¡digame!</sup>]]</small> 01:33, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
:My edit adhered extremely closely to what the reliable source said. The source is available online, so I suggest you read it, and then tell me if you think that I editorialized or took liberties. I don't believe I have.
:I agree that I need more sources to flesh out a more complete discussion of the topic, though the one I used was a good survey of the subject. I intended to add more sources. Maybe you should give me more than twelve hours to build out a section of the article? Or, better yet, maybe you could do some research and help flesh out the section yourself. That seems like more a constructive approach than deleting sourced and relevant information.
:Also, do you not think that terrorism in Tibet is a notable topic within this article? Given the frequency with which Chinese authorities decry Tibetan separatism as terrorism—not to mention that terrorism has occurred there—it seems that it should be included and explained. Moreover, most of the literature I've encountered thus far includes a discussion of Tibet alongside Xinjiang. But unless I'm reading you wrong, it seems you're saying that you don't think it's any more notable than anything else...? [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 02:03, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
::Terrorism in Tibet could possibly be a notable topic in the article, but recent instances are indeed rare as your text states; civil disobediences or disturbances seem to be a lot more common of late. I know the text was work in progress, but it was totally [[WP:NPOV|imbalanced]]. It seemingly downplayed historical instances of bombings etc, but these incidences probably need to be fleshed out a lot more; in that way, the evolution could be plotted and put into its correct context. I don't disagree that the PRC are definitely overboard on the rhetoric about "separatism = terrorism" there, but except for certain incidents, none or very few western sources refer to the acts as 'terrorist', just the fact that the PRC refers to them as 'acts of terrorism'. --<small>[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>¡digame!</sup>]]</small> 02:45, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
:::I suggest moving this conversation to the relevant talk page, where I've posted a comparison between what I wrote and what the source said. I really would like to collaborate with someone (even you!) on this, so I am interested in your thoughts on how the section on Tibet could be made more comprehensive and balanced. The one condition, if I am in a position to stipulate conditions, is that I hope for constructive, good faith collaboration. To that end, I suggest that you consider redacting your characterization of my contribution as "horrendous." Seems needlessly divisive. Thanks. [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 02:53, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
::::I apologise for my knee-jerk response in that edit summary. I accept that "horrendous" was perhaps too strong a word by about two notches. Unfortunately, edit summaries cannot be redacted, but I do take that back in the interests of good faith collaboration. --<small>[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>¡digame!</sup>]]</small> 03:13, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::I appreciate it. [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 03:38, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
==Chat==
OMG This is my very first time to see that English version of this poem, and it's on your userpage! 君不见 青海头 古来白骨无人收 新鬼烦冤旧鬼哭 天阴雨湿声啾啾! I love this poem too, but the translation is not so good, did you make it yourself? or could you tell me where did you get this?---[[User:Wwbread|WWbread]] ([[User talk:Wwbread|Open Your Mouth?]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 04:57, 14 March 2012 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:No, it's not my own. I would never trust myself to devise an adequate translation of [[Du Fu]] (but then, no one can). I can't remember what it was that led me to use this poem. There are many happier things than the purgatory of Qinghai, but somehow it seems fitting.[[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 05:47, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
::Um...fitting? In which aspect? You are a nice person. Chinese Wikipedia is lack of editors with professional background and cooperative. I sincerely hope you doing well in your further academic researching. I don't know you can understand Chinese or not, if I could be of some help just let me know.--[[User:Wwbread|WWbread]] ([[User talk:Wwbread|Open Your Mouth?]]) 15:39, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Yeah I know, but I just thought this is a antiwar poem. See, I really looks like a newcomer in Wikipedia. (Laugh~) Actually I edit wp for about 4 years, but mainly on Chinese version. So I know the basic editing rules like no original research, etc. I'm busy nowdays but I can connect to you later, your address is? --[[User:Wwbread|WWbread]] ([[User talk:Wwbread|Open Your Mouth?]]) 13:37, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
== Request for Rating of Quadrilateral Security Dialogue ==
Hi Homunculus, I'm trying to find somebody working on Wikiproject China (like you) who would be willing to re-rate my article [[Quadrilateral Security Dialogue]]. You can make comments on this [[Wikipedia:WikiProject China/Peer review/Quadrilateral Security Dialogue|review page]]. Any help would be much appreciated! best, -[[User:Darouet|Darouet]] ([[User talk:Darouet|talk]]) 00:23, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks for your offer to help! Perhaps you might be able to give feedback on the layout of the article, and clarity of writing? I'm relatively confident in the analysis of the security issues, but one aspect of this article that has troubled me is the lack of an explicitly Chinese perspective, which I only reference. Perhaps I could develop this? While I've consulted plenty of Asian news sources, I'm not familiar with Chinese "think tanks," etc. Do you find this to be a problem with the article?
: The [[Wikipedia:Good article criteria|criteria]] for good articles are here, and you can make comments on [[Wikipedia:WikiProject China/Peer review/Quadrilateral Security Dialogue|this page]] if you like. Ultimately, it'd be nice to have the article re-rated on the Wikiproject China article within the next 2 weeks, assuming that I have time to respond to your suggestions. Thanks again! -[[User:Darouet|Darouet]] ([[User talk:Darouet|talk]]) 03:02, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
::No problem regarding QSD: in fact I've been very busy as well with the same "real world" problems, so I understand entirely. You and Colipon have provided enough commentary to allow me to proceed and improve the article once I have time. Also, I'll contribute more to Bo Xilai at that time.
::One thing I'd love to do is contribute to wiki articles on Chinese Paleontological discoveries, which have been revolutionizing our understanding of tetrapod evolution over the last ten years. Perhaps in a little over a month I'll be free to do this! best, -[[User:Darouet|Darouet]] ([[User talk:Darouet|talk]]) 21:34, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
== Bo Xilai ==
Again, I'm really glad where our work over at Bo Xilai has taken us. I appreciate the spirit of cooperation and I am serious about taking it to GA - just need to do a bit more reference work. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 01:41, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
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:Got it. [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 16:15, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
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== Bo Guagua ==
Pardon me for speaking so bluntly, but I'm more than a little disappointed with you for [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bo_Guagua&oldid=488182073 this effort]. The subject is only notable because of what his parents are going through. Then you write for Wikipedia in a tone that is a little less than encyclopaedia, including second-or third-hand tabloid gossip as fact although it's quite obvious from the tone of some reports that they are themselves based on gossip and speculation. --<small>[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>¡digame!</sup>]]</small> 02:02, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
:Guagua has been the subject of numerous feature articles in newspapers of record, some of which date back to before the Wang Lijun affair. That establishes notability. It's not my fault he has few discernible virtues. If you don't like the article, you're welcome to improve it.[[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 02:25, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
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== Barefood lawyer ==
Thanks - and apologies for not discussing the matter more thoroughly beforehand. In the interest of accuracy (especially in a BLP article), I think it's important not to label him a "lawyer" as that would be technically inaccurate, but at the same time it is appropriate to note that he has been called a "barefoot lawyer" or even "self taught lawyer" in various articles. (Today's Telegraph article uses the latter.) Happy to contribute to a future "barefoot lawyer" article, though if you find that there is not enough material to warrant a full article, I suggest making it a section under "barefood doctor" since that's what the phrase is intended to reference. Thanks again! --[[User:PalaceGuard008|PalaceGuard008]] ([[User_Talk:PalaceGuard008|Talk]]) 17:07, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
: Ah, well, here's a start: [[Barefoot lawyer]]. I think there's enough written on the topic that it merits it own article. While the term is a play on the "barefoot doctor," they arose out of very different historical circumstances. Barefoot lawyers came about in the post-reform context, as Chinese citizens' rights consciousness was rising but the growth of the legal profession was unable to keep up (or, as is more often the case, professional lawyers were unwilling to take on the cases of rural citizens). Unlike the officially sanctioned the barefoot doctors of the Mao era, barefoot lawyers are tolerated at best. Anyway, I would appreciate any thoughts you might have on further development. Best, [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 17:51, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
<blockquote>The American officials went out of their way to praise the Chinese negotiators. They described them as working “intensely and with humanity.”</blockquote>[[User:Fred Bauder]] [[User talk:Fred Bauder|Talk]] 14:35, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Fair enough - I suggest quoting that, with proper attribution. [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 14:54, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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==May 2012==
Re {{diff|Falun_Gong|490994090|490616545|this}}, removal of sourced content should be discussed on the article talk page. [[User:AgadaUrbanit|AgadaUrbanit]] ([[User talk:AgadaUrbanit|talk]]) 03:44, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
:Agada, you wrote a sentence that had no discernible value. It was badly composed, out of place, and redundant. I deleted one sentence, and provided an explanation in the edit summary. I have nothing further to say, and have already spent an inordinate amount of time on the talk page discussing this very paragraph with you. My patience for these shenanigans is finite, you know.[[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 04:23, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
::Right, one does not need a reason to be {{diff|Falun_Gong|489856891|489796277|bold}}, and it was given: "adding balance". See [[WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM]], if you need a wikilink. However reversions should be discussed on the talk page, especially when administrators are permitted to impose discretionary sanctions on any editor editing the page. Please raise a discussion on the article talk page. [[User:AgadaUrbanit|AgadaUrbanit]] ([[User talk:AgadaUrbanit|talk]]) 06:58, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
:::I wasn't being especially bold. The sentence you wrote did not add "balance;" it was repetitive. It contained neither new information nor an alternative perspective or opinion. If you so desperately want a talk page discussion, then ''you'' can start one. Perhaps you can try to convince other editors of how redundancy equates to balance. [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 23:19, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
==Bo Xilai Review==
Absolutely! Please notify me when these changes have taken place. 感谢支持! [[User:Oakley77|Oakley77]] ([[User talk:Oakley77|talk]]) 18:12, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Hey, I made some edits to [[Bo Xilai]], nothing huge, but some critical edits nonetheless. I was wondering when you were ready for me to pass the article to GA?[[User:Oakley77|Oakley77]] ([[User talk:Oakley77|talk]]) 00:35, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks. Should just be a couple days, but I'll let you know. Regards, [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 00:52, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Given the agreement with the Falun Gong issues, is it safe to say I can make this article a GA?[[User:Oakley77|Oakley77]] ([[User talk:Oakley77|talk]]) 13:16, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think there's agreement on the issue, do you? [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 13:34, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
=== 3RR ===
It appears that you may also in violation of the three revert rule. Yes I did remove a block of text. It was a signal that I found the block problematic, as I had on a previous occasion. I reintegrated most of it, whilst giving it some copyediting to comply with policies on neutrality and close paraphrasing. I had found on going to verify against the sources that there were other problems, like [[WP:COPYVIO|copyright violations]]. Anyways, I believe I clearly stated the reasons in the edit summaries. Were you expecting me to pinpoint the exact ''word'' that I object to? ;-) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bo_Xilai&oldid=492818914#Provincial_Governor This version] is close to my bottom line. I can't speak for the others. --<small>[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>¡digame!</sup>]]</small> 06:27, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think I violated the 3RR. Or came close to a copyright infringement. [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 13:34, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
=Thanks=
I Appreciate it. I got the drift of it now...use <br> but must it also be in the caption part? Is there any way to make the infobox bigger so the actual characters are readable?
And also the pinyin didn't show up but is included in your edit, so whats wrong with the format? So complicated whoosh[[User:Whoisgalt|Whoisgalt]] ([[User talk:Whoisgalt|talk]]) 18:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
== Re: mail! ==
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== '''[[China Pabst Blue Ribbon]]'''== Pictures
Thanks for the ownership info; I took one look and my brain got frozen from the complexity of the structures and then I didn't get back to it. I will be uploading pictures from inside the Zhaoqing brewery from 1999 to the page.. Is it ok to include ones I took will on a tour and tasting of the brewery? My first goal will be to just get them on the page!!! (first time doing pics) Could I ask you to help a tad bit more (than I'll owe you one on the subject of your choice)? I wanted the kind that would have a 100kb on the page and then about 500 when clicking on it than another click will give a 1-2mb pic..This seems to be what I've found on other sites. I will choose the main one for the info box (I will crop one that has the PBR logo but is affixed to the side of a building). Than one of the main gate and bottling facility..I also have ones of the vats and a very large machine which might be involved in bottling but I'm not sure. Is there anyone that's good at reading traditional and simplified characters in that calligraphy style font? Because the pic of the front gate is in traditional I think and it says the name of the facility and name of the company? I have trouble reading past a low intermediate (spoken and typing is mid to hight intermed ) unless I have my perakun, and this can't be done on pictures. Sorry for the long blurb but I'm just so exicted to see this brewery and china pbr have its own page [[User:Whoisgalt|Whoisgalt]] ([[User talk:Whoisgalt|talk]]) 08:49, 16 May 2012 (UTC)' |
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==Falun Gong==
Thank you for pinging me on my talk page. I do not care about Falung Gong, I'm just a casual bystander who reviews the sources. I've contributed in the past to [[Ahimsa]] which might appear as close by topic. Religions and its influence on society are interesting to me. I'd appreciate source sharing. We are required to base Wikipedia material on high quality scholar secondary reliable sources, though I find an idea of hierarchy of authority among sources as partially contradicting npov principle. I do not consider any source, even high quality one as "authoritative". Skepticism is healthy. You do appear as knowledgeable about Falun Dafa, why do you find the topic as interesting? [[User:AgadaUrbanit|AgadaUrbanit]] ([[User talk:AgadaUrbanit|talk]]) 20:22, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
:Well, I agree that no one source is authoritative, but some are certainly better than others. The topic of Falun Gong attracts scholars in several different fields, including political science, religious studies (both from a NRM and Eastern religion point of view), history, anthropology, human rights, and so on. I believe in using the sources in accordance with their individual expertise, so I wouldn't take the word of a political scientist on the interpretation of religious doctrine, nor the word of an anthropologist on Chinese politics. I also think that, when describing contentious aspects of Falun Gong, it is both possible and desirable to distinguish which sources are more authoritative than others in different areas. This is less subjective than one would think; at least in the case of professional academics, it can be measured pretty reliably by the scholar's credentials and the relevance of their field of study, the amount they have published on this subject, where they have published, the nature of their methodology, and how they are regarded by top scholars on the subject of Falun Gong. So, for example, Maria Hsia Chang would seem to fare pretty well by several of these measures, but fails when it comes to how well she is regarded by other top Falun Gong scholars, who either ignore her research or deride it. Also, as I mentioned on the talk page, she is a political scientist, so can't be assumed to be an expert on interpreting complex religious theology. David Ownby is an excellent source on many facets of Falun Gong's history and beliefs, but not on the human rights dimensions. James Tong knows a lot about the background and inner workings of the suppression (particularly from the Communist Party's end, having based his research almost entirely on official documents), but knows nothing about Falun Gong as a religious belief system. And so on. Anyways, I'll send you an email at some point with my recommendations. I've been meaning to put something together for a while.
:As to my interest, my background is in comparative politics with a focus on China. Chinese religion is a personal, casual interest of mine, but my professional expertise concerns contemporary Chinese politics, democratization, social movements, and so on. Falun Gong has always been on my radar, but a year or two ago I started presenting and publishing some papers on Falun Gong and topics related to it, so had to become more familiar with all the literature overall.[[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 20:57, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
== Penny ==
You [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AFalun_Gong&action=historysubmit&diff=477139940&oldid=477091692 referred here] to a new Penny source. I'm just wondering how you could have obtained s review copy? Are you a member of the press, or are you an otherwise interested party? --<small>[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>¡digame!</sup>]]</small> 09:20, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
:I am not a member of the press, no. Academic books are often circulated for review and comment to others with an expertise in the field. I didn’t receive a copy directly from Penny or the publisher, but from another colleague who knew I was researching the subject. I apologize that I didn't check the month of publication. If you have an ongoing interest in the topic, you should order it; it's perhaps the first really serious attempt to put FG teachings into the context of Buddhist / Daoist cultivation tradition, rather than just speculating on a lineage connection to millennial or secret societies of imperial China (some of it is still highly speculative, which is unfortunate, but it's still good.)[[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 18:02, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
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== Absence of terrorosm in Tibet ==
I think [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Terrorism_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China&diff=480505487&oldid=480387497 this edit] of yours introduces a pretty horrendous example of [[WP:EDITORIAL|editorialisation]] to the article. Without meaning to insult you in any way, this text seems to be the sort of style of the ''Epoch Times''. I have therefore removed it. If you disagree, perhaps you ought to consider gathering more third party sources about how there is also an absence of terrorism in, say, Guangdong, or Yunnan, or indeed anywhere else in China except Xinjiang or the big cities that are targets. In addition, there is the explicit reference to actions being perpetrated by a very small 'hard core' of extremists – seems to me that this is the case for terrorist acts almost everywhere else in the world ... --<small>[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>¡digame!</sup>]]</small> 01:33, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
:My edit adhered extremely closely to what the reliable source said. The source is available online, so I suggest you read it, and then tell me if you think that I editorialized or took liberties. I don't believe I have.
:I agree that I need more sources to flesh out a more complete discussion of the topic, though the one I used was a good survey of the subject. I intended to add more sources. Maybe you should give me more than twelve hours to build out a section of the article? Or, better yet, maybe you could do some research and help flesh out the section yourself. That seems like more a constructive approach than deleting sourced and relevant information.
:Also, do you not think that terrorism in Tibet is a notable topic within this article? Given the frequency with which Chinese authorities decry Tibetan separatism as terrorism—not to mention that terrorism has occurred there—it seems that it should be included and explained. Moreover, most of the literature I've encountered thus far includes a discussion of Tibet alongside Xinjiang. But unless I'm reading you wrong, it seems you're saying that you don't think it's any more notable than anything else...? [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 02:03, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
::Terrorism in Tibet could possibly be a notable topic in the article, but recent instances are indeed rare as your text states; civil disobediences or disturbances seem to be a lot more common of late. I know the text was work in progress, but it was totally [[WP:NPOV|imbalanced]]. It seemingly downplayed historical instances of bombings etc, but these incidences probably need to be fleshed out a lot more; in that way, the evolution could be plotted and put into its correct context. I don't disagree that the PRC are definitely overboard on the rhetoric about "separatism = terrorism" there, but except for certain incidents, none or very few western sources refer to the acts as 'terrorist', just the fact that the PRC refers to them as 'acts of terrorism'. --<small>[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>¡digame!</sup>]]</small> 02:45, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
:::I suggest moving this conversation to the relevant talk page, where I've posted a comparison between what I wrote and what the source said. I really would like to collaborate with someone (even you!) on this, so I am interested in your thoughts on how the section on Tibet could be made more comprehensive and balanced. The one condition, if I am in a position to stipulate conditions, is that I hope for constructive, good faith collaboration. To that end, I suggest that you consider redacting your characterization of my contribution as "horrendous." Seems needlessly divisive. Thanks. [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 02:53, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
::::I apologise for my knee-jerk response in that edit summary. I accept that "horrendous" was perhaps too strong a word by about two notches. Unfortunately, edit summaries cannot be redacted, but I do take that back in the interests of good faith collaboration. --<small>[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>¡digame!</sup>]]</small> 03:13, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::I appreciate it. [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 03:38, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
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OMG This is my very first time to see that English version of this poem, and it's on your userpage! 君不见 青海头 古来白骨无人收 新鬼烦冤旧鬼哭 天阴雨湿声啾啾! I love this poem too, but the translation is not so good, did you make it yourself? or could you tell me where did you get this?---[[User:Wwbread|WWbread]] ([[User talk:Wwbread|Open Your Mouth?]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 04:57, 14 March 2012 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:No, it's not my own. I would never trust myself to devise an adequate translation of [[Du Fu]] (but then, no one can). I can't remember what it was that led me to use this poem. There are many happier things than the purgatory of Qinghai, but somehow it seems fitting.[[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 05:47, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
::Um...fitting? In which aspect? You are a nice person. Chinese Wikipedia is lack of editors with professional background and cooperative. I sincerely hope you doing well in your further academic researching. I don't know you can understand Chinese or not, if I could be of some help just let me know.--[[User:Wwbread|WWbread]] ([[User talk:Wwbread|Open Your Mouth?]]) 15:39, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Yeah I know, but I just thought this is a antiwar poem. See, I really looks like a newcomer in Wikipedia. (Laugh~) Actually I edit wp for about 4 years, but mainly on Chinese version. So I know the basic editing rules like no original research, etc. I'm busy nowdays but I can connect to you later, your address is? --[[User:Wwbread|WWbread]] ([[User talk:Wwbread|Open Your Mouth?]]) 13:37, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
== Request for Rating of Quadrilateral Security Dialogue ==
Hi Homunculus, I'm trying to find somebody working on Wikiproject China (like you) who would be willing to re-rate my article [[Quadrilateral Security Dialogue]]. You can make comments on this [[Wikipedia:WikiProject China/Peer review/Quadrilateral Security Dialogue|review page]]. Any help would be much appreciated! best, -[[User:Darouet|Darouet]] ([[User talk:Darouet|talk]]) 00:23, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks for your offer to help! Perhaps you might be able to give feedback on the layout of the article, and clarity of writing? I'm relatively confident in the analysis of the security issues, but one aspect of this article that has troubled me is the lack of an explicitly Chinese perspective, which I only reference. Perhaps I could develop this? While I've consulted plenty of Asian news sources, I'm not familiar with Chinese "think tanks," etc. Do you find this to be a problem with the article?
: The [[Wikipedia:Good article criteria|criteria]] for good articles are here, and you can make comments on [[Wikipedia:WikiProject China/Peer review/Quadrilateral Security Dialogue|this page]] if you like. Ultimately, it'd be nice to have the article re-rated on the Wikiproject China article within the next 2 weeks, assuming that I have time to respond to your suggestions. Thanks again! -[[User:Darouet|Darouet]] ([[User talk:Darouet|talk]]) 03:02, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
::No problem regarding QSD: in fact I've been very busy as well with the same "real world" problems, so I understand entirely. You and Colipon have provided enough commentary to allow me to proceed and improve the article once I have time. Also, I'll contribute more to Bo Xilai at that time.
::One thing I'd love to do is contribute to wiki articles on Chinese Paleontological discoveries, which have been revolutionizing our understanding of tetrapod evolution over the last ten years. Perhaps in a little over a month I'll be free to do this! best, -[[User:Darouet|Darouet]] ([[User talk:Darouet|talk]]) 21:34, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
== Bo Xilai ==
Again, I'm really glad where our work over at Bo Xilai has taken us. I appreciate the spirit of cooperation and I am serious about taking it to GA - just need to do a bit more reference work. [[User:Colipon|Colipon]]+<small>([[User talk:Colipon|Talk]])</small> 01:41, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
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== April 2012 ==
I mentioned your name [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Request_concerning_Homunculus_and_The_Sound_and_the_Fury|here]]. [[User:AgadaUrbanit|AgadaUrbanit]] ([[User talk:AgadaUrbanit|talk]]) 05:18, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
:Got it. [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 16:15, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
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== Bo Guagua ==
Pardon me for speaking so bluntly, but I'm more than a little disappointed with you for [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bo_Guagua&oldid=488182073 this effort]. The subject is only notable because of what his parents are going through. Then you write for Wikipedia in a tone that is a little less than encyclopaedia, including second-or third-hand tabloid gossip as fact although it's quite obvious from the tone of some reports that they are themselves based on gossip and speculation. --<small>[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>¡digame!</sup>]]</small> 02:02, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
:Guagua has been the subject of numerous feature articles in newspapers of record, some of which date back to before the Wang Lijun affair. That establishes notability. It's not my fault he has few discernible virtues. If you don't like the article, you're welcome to improve it.[[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 02:25, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
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== Barefood lawyer ==
Thanks - and apologies for not discussing the matter more thoroughly beforehand. In the interest of accuracy (especially in a BLP article), I think it's important not to label him a "lawyer" as that would be technically inaccurate, but at the same time it is appropriate to note that he has been called a "barefoot lawyer" or even "self taught lawyer" in various articles. (Today's Telegraph article uses the latter.) Happy to contribute to a future "barefoot lawyer" article, though if you find that there is not enough material to warrant a full article, I suggest making it a section under "barefood doctor" since that's what the phrase is intended to reference. Thanks again! --[[User:PalaceGuard008|PalaceGuard008]] ([[User_Talk:PalaceGuard008|Talk]]) 17:07, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
: Ah, well, here's a start: [[Barefoot lawyer]]. I think there's enough written on the topic that it merits it own article. While the term is a play on the "barefoot doctor," they arose out of very different historical circumstances. Barefoot lawyers came about in the post-reform context, as Chinese citizens' rights consciousness was rising but the growth of the legal profession was unable to keep up (or, as is more often the case, professional lawyers were unwilling to take on the cases of rural citizens). Unlike the officially sanctioned the barefoot doctors of the Mao era, barefoot lawyers are tolerated at best. Anyway, I would appreciate any thoughts you might have on further development. Best, [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 17:51, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
<blockquote>The American officials went out of their way to praise the Chinese negotiators. They described them as working “intensely and with humanity.”</blockquote>[[User:Fred Bauder]] [[User talk:Fred Bauder|Talk]] 14:35, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Fair enough - I suggest quoting that, with proper attribution. [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 14:54, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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==May 2012==
Re {{diff|Falun_Gong|490994090|490616545|this}}, removal of sourced content should be discussed on the article talk page. [[User:AgadaUrbanit|AgadaUrbanit]] ([[User talk:AgadaUrbanit|talk]]) 03:44, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
:Agada, you wrote a sentence that had no discernible value. It was badly composed, out of place, and redundant. I deleted one sentence, and provided an explanation in the edit summary. I have nothing further to say, and have already spent an inordinate amount of time on the talk page discussing this very paragraph with you. My patience for these shenanigans is finite, you know.[[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 04:23, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
::Right, one does not need a reason to be {{diff|Falun_Gong|489856891|489796277|bold}}, and it was given: "adding balance". See [[WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM]], if you need a wikilink. However reversions should be discussed on the talk page, especially when administrators are permitted to impose discretionary sanctions on any editor editing the page. Please raise a discussion on the article talk page. [[User:AgadaUrbanit|AgadaUrbanit]] ([[User talk:AgadaUrbanit|talk]]) 06:58, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
:::I wasn't being especially bold. The sentence you wrote did not add "balance;" it was repetitive. It contained neither new information nor an alternative perspective or opinion. If you so desperately want a talk page discussion, then ''you'' can start one. Perhaps you can try to convince other editors of how redundancy equates to balance. [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 23:19, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
==Bo Xilai Review==
Absolutely! Please notify me when these changes have taken place. 感谢支持! [[User:Oakley77|Oakley77]] ([[User talk:Oakley77|talk]]) 18:12, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Hey, I made some edits to [[Bo Xilai]], nothing huge, but some critical edits nonetheless. I was wondering when you were ready for me to pass the article to GA?[[User:Oakley77|Oakley77]] ([[User talk:Oakley77|talk]]) 00:35, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks. Should just be a couple days, but I'll let you know. Regards, [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 00:52, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Given the agreement with the Falun Gong issues, is it safe to say I can make this article a GA?[[User:Oakley77|Oakley77]] ([[User talk:Oakley77|talk]]) 13:16, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think there's agreement on the issue, do you? [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 13:34, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
=== 3RR ===
It appears that you may also in violation of the three revert rule. Yes I did remove a block of text. It was a signal that I found the block problematic, as I had on a previous occasion. I reintegrated most of it, whilst giving it some copyediting to comply with policies on neutrality and close paraphrasing. I had found on going to verify against the sources that there were other problems, like [[WP:COPYVIO|copyright violations]]. Anyways, I believe I clearly stated the reasons in the edit summaries. Were you expecting me to pinpoint the exact ''word'' that I object to? ;-) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bo_Xilai&oldid=492818914#Provincial_Governor This version] is close to my bottom line. I can't speak for the others. --<small>[[User:Ohconfucius|<span style="color:Black;font:bold 8pt 'kristen itc';text-shadow:cyan 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em;">Ohconfucius</span>]] [[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>¡digame!</sup>]]</small> 06:27, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think I violated the 3RR. Or came close to a copyright infringement. [[User:Homunculus|Homunculus]] ([[User talk:Homunculus|duihua]]) 13:34, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
=Thanks=
I Appreciate it. I got the drift of it now...use <br> but must it also be in the caption part? Is there any way to make the infobox bigger so the actual characters are readable?
And also the pinyin didn't show up but is included in your edit, so whats wrong with the format? So complicated whoosh[[User:Whoisgalt|Whoisgalt]] ([[User talk:Whoisgalt|talk]]) 18:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
== Re: mail! ==
Weird, nothing came through. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk to me</font>]]</sub> 03:56, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
== '''[[China Pabst Blue Ribbon]]'''== Pictures
Thanks for the ownership info; I took one look and my brain got frozen from the complexity of the structures and then I didn't get back to it. I will be uploading pictures from inside the Zhaoqing brewery from 1999 to the page.. Is it ok to include ones I took will on a tour and tasting of the brewery? My first goal will be to just get them on the page!!! (first time doing pics) Could I ask you to help a tad bit more (than I'll owe you one on the subject of your choice)? I wanted the kind that would have a 100kb on the page and then about 500 when clicking on it than another click will give a 1-2mb pic..This seems to be what I've found on other sites. I will choose the main one for the info box (I will crop one that has the PBR logo but is affixed to the side of a building). Than one of the main gate and bottling facility..I also have ones of the vats and a very large machine which might be involved in bottling but I'm not sure. Is there anyone that's good at reading traditional and simplified characters in that calligraphy style font? Because the pic of the front gate is in traditional I think and it says the name of the facility and name of the company? I have trouble reading past a low intermediate (spoken and typing is mid to hight intermed ) unless I have my perakun, and this can't be done on pictures. Sorry for the long blurb but I'm just so exicted to see this brewery and china pbr have its own page [[User:Whoisgalt|Whoisgalt]] ([[User talk:Whoisgalt|talk]]) 08:49, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
== A beer for you! ==
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for the help...I can get stuck sometimes in the mud and need a good push. ~~~~
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