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:: That is to say, dear Dr. K.,<ins>'''You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time'''</ins>. But, feel free. One can bury his head in the sand like an ostrich till the hunter (truth) faces him. |
:: That is to say, dear Dr. K.,<ins>'''You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time'''</ins>. But, feel free. One can bury his head in the sand like an ostrich till the hunter (truth) faces him. |
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: '''3.''' Why do you revert to the previous case? The links actually proves the info in article is blatantly wrong! If you object from plagiarism approach, then you can at least delete my addition while deleting also the wrong, outdated and obsolete parts as well! |
: '''3.''' Why do you revert to the previous case? The links actually proves the info in article is blatantly wrong! If you object from plagiarism approach, then you can at least delete my addition while deleting also the wrong, outdated and obsolete parts as well! |
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: '''4.''' Dr.K. :"So-called "Advocacy Department" from the Washington times is advertising insert by TRNC in the newspaper." |
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: [http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/30/higher-education-turkish-republic-northern-cyprus/ Do not you see the phrase "By The Washington Times Advocacy Department - - Tuesday, September 30, 2014" here?] |
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: How can you insult a department of Washington Times as "so called"? |
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: Did you ever see any proof that page was ad of Northern Cyprus? From where do you derive this? |
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: "So called, so called,..." Continue... |
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: [http://www.solarchallenge.org.za/?cat=2 Your "so called" Northern Cyprus is today racing in Solar Race Car Championship in South Africa.] |
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: [http://robocupssl.cpe.ku.ac.th/teams:teams Your "so called" Northern Cyprus participated in 2014 Robot Football Championship in Brasil in 2014.]. Also, [http://robotics.neu.edu.tr/ here]. |
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: [http://epbf.com/european-championships/dynamic-billard-european-championships-started/ Your "so called" Northern Cyprus organized 2014 European Billiard Championship.] |
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: [http://www.brtk.net/300-sporcu-gelecek/ Your "so called" Northern Cyprus will organize 2014 World Footballtennis Championship...] |
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: You love the word "so called" dear Dr.K. Please, bring your non-so-called passport with you when passing to the north since "so called" officials will check it, otherwise you cannot enter to the north. |
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As an expert on Northern Cyprus and Eastern Mediterranean, I have edits in all of the following Wikipedia pages since 2010:
Northern Cyprus, Talk:Northern Cyprus, Turkey
Politics: Foreign relations of Northern Cyprus, Cyprus dispute, Cypriot intercommunal violence, United Nations Security Council Resolution 541, 2014 Cyprus Joint Declaration, Human rights in Northern Cyprus, Exclusive economic zone, Mediterranean Oil Dispute, Military of Northern Cyprus, List of Republics
Demography: Population transfer, Population exchange between Greek and Turkish Cypriots, Cypriot refugees, Template:PopulationChartUnder1m, List of countries by population, List of sovereign states and dependent territories by population density,
Locations: Mediterranean Sea, Template:Municipalities of Northern Cyprus, Kyrenia, Güzelyurt District, Morphou, Famagusta, Trikomo, Cyprus, Ayios Andronikos, Cyprus, Ayios Seryios, Cyprus, Lefka, Karpass Peninsula, Bellapais
Transportation: Ercan International Airport, Nicosia International Airport
Education: Education in Northern Cyprus, Middle East Technical University Northern Cyprus Campus, Cyprus International University, University of Kyrenia
Sports: Sport in Northern Cyprus, World Pool-Billiard Association, European Pocket Billiard Federation, European Cyclists' Federation, Paragliding, Professional Football Leagues
Geography: List of countries by easternmost point, Pentadaktylos, List of countries by highest point, List of islands of Northern Cyprus, List of islands#Europe
Culture: List of top international rankings by country, Bayrak (TV Channel of Northern Cyprus)
Religion: Religions by country, Religion in Europe, Religion in Northern Cyprus
Tourism: Tourism in Northern Cyprus
Others: North Cyprus Red Crescent Society, Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 November 26 (Is Northern Cyprus a Eurasian country?), Cittaslow
Files: Long Beach Trikomo.jpg
Greek leader
Would you be able to confirm that T/c media (Bayrak) refer to the G/c leader simply as the "Greek leader"? [1] Ta 62.228.170.218 (talk) 20:54, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
- I sourced in the relevant article.Alexyflemming (talk) 06:29, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
September 2014
Your addition to Tourism in Northern Cyprus has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text, or images borrowed from other websites, or printed material without a verifiable license; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 19:35, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- I looked at DNSSTUFF and found that the owner of "northcyprusguide.net" is "Riverside Holiday Village, Alsancak, Kyrenia, Northern Cyprus". I will send the Hotel administration a permission request for the flora.
Alexyflemming (talk) 20:14, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Tourism in Northern Cyprus, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:02, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- POV: Nope! Which part is POV (Point of View)? Did you ever see any sentence which I added without sourcing?
- advert: Nope, "Tourism in X" articles, in its nature, has some sort of it. "T in NC" is not that excessive.
- peacock: In what?
- unreliable sources: Which source is unreliable? Did you ever read WP:RS?
- Alexyflemming (talk) 20:08, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Are you asking me if I have read WP:RS? Yes I have, thank you, and that's why I detected your junk sources in the first place. But apparently you need a refresher course on WP:RS because you used the junk sources to add the following WP:SYNTH, WP:OR into the article Tourism in Northern Cyprus:
Northern Cyprus is described with many marvellous feelings all around the world such as "the last untouched paradise in Mediterranean Sea",<ref>[vimeo.com/105877921 Vimeo]</ref> "among most memorable destinations",<ref>[http://www.premier-travel.co.uk/our_people/cambridge_sidney_street/rebecca_allen Premier Travel]</ref> "lovely",<ref>[http://njpphotography.co.uk/photoplus-trip/ njpphotography]</ref> "unspoilt, un-commercialised, peaceful and beautiful",<ref>[http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g2137421-d3942374-r177283079-Amazing_Seaviews_Penthouse-Buyukkonuk_Famagusta_District.html Trip Advisor]</ref> "a natural wonder and a tranquil undiscovered part of Cyprus",<ref>[http://www.ramblersholidays.co.uk/page/lesser-known-northern-cyprus ramblersholidays]</ref> "unspoilt paradise",<ref>[http://northcyprusunspoilt.co.uk/ northcyprusunspoilt]</ref> "paradise island" <ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZtXO95YXA North Cyprus - Paradise Island]</ref> etc.
- Please don't do this again. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 16:19, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- According to WP:RS, a reliable source can be biased. The matter is whether one can source it.Alexyflemming (talk) 17:22, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- Hotel websites, Websites promoting travel to Northern Cyprus, Websites hosting apartments for rent, Vimeo videos, Youtube videos made by unknown users and comments by random customers on websites are not reliable sources and you cannot use them or quote them in articles. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 22:12, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- According to WP:RS, a reliable source can be biased. The matter is whether one can source it.Alexyflemming (talk) 17:22, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- Are you asking me if I have read WP:RS? Yes I have, thank you, and that's why I detected your junk sources in the first place. But apparently you need a refresher course on WP:RS because you used the junk sources to add the following WP:SYNTH, WP:OR into the article Tourism in Northern Cyprus:
Northern Cyprus edits
I will complement you on doing a great job updating and expanding many Northern Cyprus-related articles.
I oppose, however, to your sneaky removal of links to Cyprus / Island of Cyprus / Republic of Cyprus, usually replacing them with links to Northern Cyprus, sometimes even making double or triple links to NC to avoid linking to the island of / Republic of Cyprus. I also notice that all your newly created articles about places in NC do not have any mentions at all about RoC, not even the de jure/de facto distinction. That is definitely POV editing.
I oppose also to your consistent removal of any mention of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus, replacing any mention with "the events of 1974" or your new favorite "the hostilities of 1974". These euphemisms do not give any information to the user of Wikipedia, they only create questions: "Which events?", "Which hostilities?". You have also been removing many sourced descriptions of the local effects of the 1974 ínvasion. These edits are definitely disruptive POV edits.
In your edit summaries you never mention the removals and changes you do to the article content, you only mention additions of mayors, population figures etc., which are obviously good additions. The disruptive edits I have mentioned above are never mentioned (which is why I used the word "sneaky"). To make it even worse, you are using false edit summaries. When you remove a category you do not like with an edit summary "syntax", it is not only disruptive, it is plain dishonest.
In a week's time I will again be able to edit regularly in Wikipedia, and I will then begin to revert your POV edits. In the meantime you could help, by reverting your worst POV edits. If not, the least you can do is to refrain from any more POV edits with dishonest edit summaries.
I really think that it would be possible for us to work together to create a neutral (WP:NPOV) presentation of places in NC, but that would require that you are willing to accept that your personal POV is not necessarily the only way to describe the world. Regards! --T*U (talk) 04:33, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
The answer
- compliment:
- Thank you for your congratulations.
- sneaky removal:
- Nope! The "de jure: Cyprus" links and "Famagusta District", "Kyrenia District", "Nicosia District" categories still remains in the articles! See once more carefully please!
- "Northern Cyprus" authorities, administrations etc. are the current ones in effect. Even those who add "mayor-in-exile" for Famagusta article is not me, but some neutral point of viewed Greek Cypriots!
- That said, I protected "de jure: Cyprus" link in all of the articles I added.
- all your newly created articles about places in NC do not have any mentions at all about RoC, not even the de jure/de facto distinction.:
- Nobody opposes you in adding "de jure: Cyprus" link in newly added articles of Northern Cyprus. You can phrase "missing information", but not "POV editing". You can add them in a week's time when you are idle!
- removal of any mention of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus, replacing any mention with "the events of 1974" or "the hostilities of 1974":
- United Nations's standard way of currently handling the issue is from neutral point of view always:
- United Nations' Official WebsiteUNFICYP Mandate: "...Following the hostilities of 1974, ..."
- United Nations' Official WebsiteUNFICYP Background: "Since the events of 1974, ..."
- The descriptions you qualify as "euphemisms" are used by United Nations.
- The answers of "Which events?", "Which hostilities?":
- Nobody opposes you to link the page you requested to answer these questions as long as you do not damage the neutral presentation of the article.
- i.e. Using anybody's description of the events different than that neutral way of United Nations is POV.
- Removing local descriptions..:
- They mention forcefully expelling of Greek Cypriots to the south. However:
- In November-December 1974, Denktas and Makarios agreed the voluntary moving of Greek Cypriots from some villages in the north to the south.
- In August 1975, Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots agreed the "voluntary population exchange agreement" under the auspieces of United Nations and
- many exhange were realized under the auspieces of United Nations.
- Since this agreement was based on "voluntary moving the other side", thousands of people did not want to change their side, and remained where they are. For example,
- Orthodox Greek Cypriots in Rizokarpaso, Agios Andronikos, Cyprus and Agia Triada, Cyprus and Catholic Maronite Cypriots in Asomatos, Karpasia, town and Kormakitis agreed to live under Turkish Cypriot administration and stayed in the north and Turkish Cypriots in Limassol agreed to live under Greek Cypriot administration and stayed in the south of the Cyprus island.
- Those people and their descedents still live in 2014 in the places they chose in 1975! Hence, "forcefully eviction" or "depopulation" phrases are clearly POV. For the latter, the towns and villages, never depopulated. There were people in 1974 there and there were people in 1975 there as well.
- The change in the ethnicity of the living beings were caused by the "voluntary population exchange agreement".
- mayors, population figures etc., which are obviously good additions:
- Even these ones are removed by some vandalists constantly, as happened many times in this articles. I hope there are enough people with common sense to protect them.
- Though thousands of times I proved with links that the census in the north in 2011 was under the auspieces of United Nations and its observers, there are many users who vandalistically remove them.
- When you remove a category you do not like with an edit summary "syntax", it is not only disruptive, it is plain dishonest.:
- What if a category is completely dishonest in itself?!! Read above mentionings with "forcefully expelled, depopulated" etc.
- The cities, towns, villages were never depopulated. There were always people in 1974, in 1975, in 1976, ..., in 2014 at these places. Any change caused by voluntary changing the sides.
- If all of the Greek Cypriots in Kyrenia had wanted to stay in Kyrenia, they would have been living in Kyrenia now just as the Greek Cypriots in Rizokarpaso, Agios Andronikos, Cyprus and Agia Triada, Cyprus and Catholic Maronite Cypriots in Asomatos, Karpasia, town and Kormakitis !
- I will then begin to revert your POV edits:
- Do not be prejuidiced. Sit down and think thoroughly and let you analyze the facts first carefully. Read the sources of all three sides: those of Greek Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, the other third party ones like that of United Nations (especially UNFICYP).
- Alexyflemming (talk) 08:09, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- Bias: I did notice that you did keep the de jure/de facto distinction in the infobox. I also noticed that you deliberately did not include it in the infobox of the articles you created. Double standards or just hoping no-one would see it? My main objection is, however, that you virtually have (sneakily) removed all links to Cyprus in the main text of a long range of articles, usually replacing them with more links to Northern Cyprus.
- Euphemisms: It is of course acceptable and even recommendable to vary the language by referring to "the hostilities" or "the events" provided that it is clear what those expressions refer to, for example after a mention of the 1974 invasion (with a link to the "Turkish invasion" article). But if you remove the first mention and not even link to anything, the expressions become euphemisms that does not give the reader any information.
- Dishonesty: What you mean about the category you removed, is neither here nor there. Using a false edit summary is not acceptable under any circumstances. --T*U (talk) 18:36, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Further answer
1. T*U: "Bias: I did notice that you did keep the de jure/de facto distinction in the infobox."
AF: I hope for the next time you accuse me with "less dishonesty" :)
2. T*U: "I also noticed that you deliberately did not include it in the infobox of the articles you created. Double standards or just hoping no-one would see it?"
AF: As for the best presentation (to me), the appearance of "de jure and de facto expressions" in all the articles that is somehow related with Northern Cyprus is not normal.
When a user wants to know something about "Northern Cyprus" it is normal for his/him to see that info there. This is presentation side of this issue.
There is also a "legal" part of this issue. According to ECtHR, all of the actions of Northern Cyprus' authorities may be regarded legal.
Hence, establishing a municipality in Northern Cyprus as an administrative act is also legal. See below. Hence, writing "de facto" for a "legal entity" (a municipality in this handling) of Northern Cyprus is very absurd.
That "de facto, de jure" expressions must be restricted to "Northern Cyprus" as a country-handling.
Yeni Boğaziçi municipality of Northern Cyprus became a member of International Cittaslow Organization. Yeni Boğaziçi municipality has a legal personality. According to Cittaslow regulations, any candidate member of Rep. of Cyprus must apply first to Yeni Boğaziçi municipality of Northern Cyprus. Now, which one is legal, which one is illegal? Or both? Do you see what I mean...Now, the proof of my above statement:
- Not only the laws of "Immovable Property Commission of Northern Cyprus (and its related laws)" but also all laws of Northern Cyprus without any exception are recognized at European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR): http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/sites/eng/Pages/search.aspx#{"fulltext":["Pavlides"],"documentcollectionid2":["CASELAW"],"itemid":["001-122907"]} ECtHR Decision 02.07.2013, App. nos. 9130/09 and 9143/09; Pavlides v. Turkey; Georgakis v. Turkey. ECtHR: "...notwithstanding the lack of international recognition of the regime in the northern area, a de facto recognition of its acts may be rendered necessary for practical purposes. Thus, THE ADOPTION BY THE AUTHORITIES OF THE "TRNC" OF CIVIL, ADMINISTRATIVE OR CRIMINAL LAW MEASURES, AND THEIR APPLICATION OR ENFORCEMENT WITHIN THAT TERRITORY, may be regarded as HAVING A LEGAL BASIS in domestic law for the purposes of the Convention".
Note: In the related above case, the application of Greek Cypriots was found to be "INADMISSABLE" by ECtHR and IMMEDIATELY REJECTED by ECtHR! That is to say, the applicant Greek Cypriots were expelled just at the beginning of the process. Case was never handled by the ECtHR! - Anthony Cullen and StevenWheatley (2013): "The Human Rights of Individuals in De Facto Regimes under the European Convention on Human Rights"
- Human Rights Law Review 13:4
- p. 708: ECtHR did follow the position in international law that not all acts of a de facto government are to be regarded as being without legal validity.
- p. 709: The Grand Chamber of ECtHR accepted that the judicial system in the TRNC could be considered to be established by law.
- p. 710: The ECtHR has continued to recognise the utility of the government system established under the TRNC Constitution.
3. T*U: "more links to Northern Cyprus":
AF: It is highly normal that the Turkish Cypriots governors, mayors, peoples who are actively operating these villages for 40 years (since 1974) and legally administrating (see above) it for 30 years (since 1983) and performing all the activities on the settlements via creating streets, buildings, may appear more in those article pages.
Before all, the Greek Cypriots of these settlements (including mayors-in-exile) could not come to these settlements even as a tourist till 2003!
And since 2003, these Greek Cypriots can come only as a tourist there. As is routine in every handling and covering in a normal encyclopedia, something's "X-in-exile" appears less than X-in-active, "X-in-reality".
We are in 2014. Will you still object to "more links to Northern Cyprus" in 2114 as well? If not, when will your objections stop?
The life did not stop and got frozen in these places. World continued rotating and still rotates.
Law existed via time:
- European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) rejected Tasos and Marianna' desire to return to the North and settle in the house where they left in 1974
(Tasos Asproftas: [Application no. 16079/90] ve Marianna Petrakidou [Application no. 16081/90]).
"...The place from where Greek Cypriots migrated is no longer their home since they lived almost their life elsewhere and they don’t have concrete and persisting links with the property concerned...”
- European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) decided Northern Cypriot authoties can expropriate Greek Cypriots' properties with 1974 values (namely 1/10 of their 2014 values)
Antonakis Solomonides (Application no. 16161/90), Loizou (Application no. 16682/90)
- European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) decided that all of the Greek Cypriots without any exception
(including #1 political authority president of Rep. of Cyprus Anastasiadis, #1 religious authority priest Chrisostomos) must apply Northern Cypriot authorities in things related with it before taking their cases to ECtHR.
(Chrysostomos II [Application no. 66611/09])
I will not include more decision of ECtHR since the message is clear.
4. T*U: "Euphemisms: It is of course acceptable and even recommendable to vary the language by referring to "the hostilities" or "the events""
AF: After saying this, what else you say more are all POV, non-neutrality; all "...,but ", "...., provided that" expressions somehow denotes non-digestions.
5. T*U: "provided that it is clear what those expressions refer to, for example after a mention of the 1974 invasion (with a link to the "Turkish invasion" article)."
AF: Nobody opposes you to link the expressions ("the hostilities","the events") to wiki-pages you requested to give the info you desire to the reader.
But, in the articles, if you add "invasion", you damage the neutral presentation of the article.
Did you ever see United Nations linking "the hostilities" or "the events" to any of the "invasion" pages? Obviously no!
Cyprus issue is not new, more than 50 years old. Also, in the "hostilities OF 1974", "the events OF 1974", "OF 1974" part clearly means many things: "15july coup, 20-22 july 14-16August war". That said,
There is considerable amount of objections to depict the events of 1974 as "invasion" in Wikipedia. In the past, throughout years, it is again and again objected by various wiki users!
That said, any move that is further than the usage: [[Turkish invasion of Cyprus|the hostilities of 1974]] and [[Turkish invasion of Cyprus|the events of 1974]] is POV and non-neutral bombardment. In fact, even this sending inherits some sort bias in itself.
- To your info: Armenians mentioned, written, showed "billions of times" "Armenian Genocide".
- European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) (17.12.2013, Perinçek v. Switzerland, application no. 27510/08): "1915 events cannot be qualified as genocide", and punished Switzerland!
Turkey said to Armenia: "OK! Let you put your 100 most important proof for "genocide", let me put my 100 most important proof for "1915 events", and let neutral historians decide"
Armenia rejected! Turkey said to Armenia "OK! Let us open all our archieves to all researchers, and let them search" Armenia rejected. After this offer, Turkey opened all its archives to researchers unilaterally. Armenia's archives are still closed in 2014!
What I mean is that "saying invasion billions of times" does not make it invasion just in the same way "saying genocide billions of times" did not make it genocide! Even that approach weakens your cause (whatever it is) in the eyes of people!
This is similar to: erecting status of a person everywhere in a country causes antipathy of people about that person!
6. "Dishonesty: What you mean about the category you removed, is neither here nor there. Using a false edit summary is not acceptable under any circumstances."
AF: is not a category. This is the definition of propaganda and vandalism (as I explained above). Nothing else. That said, this "category" itself is not included in the main body of the related articles. It appears as the bottommost link. Hence, since it is basically outside of the content, it is somehow related with the syntax side.
Hence, one way of expressing it in your way seems plausible, there is also another side of the same medallion.Alexyflemming (talk) 18:30, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- Bias: I repeat: "that you virtually have (sneakily) removed all links to Cyprus in the main text of a long range of articles".
- Euphemisms: I repeat: "provided that it is clear what those expressions refer to".
- Dishonesty: I repeat: "false edit summary is not acceptable under any circumstances". "Hence, since it is basically outside of the content, it is somehow related with the syntax side." Rubbish! And FYI: There are procedures for suggesting deletion of categories.--T*U (talk) 19:50, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- 1. Bias: "forcefully expel" and "depopulate" are completely lies. Disproven with sources from United Nations official website December.1974, August.1975
- 2. Further than [[Turkish invasion of Cyprus|the hostilities of 1974]] and [[Turkish invasion of Cyprus|the events of 1974]] is POV and non-neutral bombardment; and eventually will be taken to Wikipedia Administrators Board. That way, perhaps, I will highlight the move from "Turkish invasion of Cyprus" to "1974 Cyprus war" that resulted in "no consensus" a little while ago; to a new more neutral stage. Till the consensus is formed, you can use that non-neutral and biased sending as well.
- 3. " a category" for which you mention "the process of deletion of categories". Why do you perform/offer it so by yourself? Are the protecting the category that is "full propoganda, full vandalism, full lie, full hate" honorous? "syntax" is for "Wikipedia rules" as well!Alexyflemming (talk) 20:18, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Topics relating to Northern Cyprus are covered by WP:ARBMAC
The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding the Balkans, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.
Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.
This message is informational only and does not imply misconduct regarding your contributions to date.Template:Z33 Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 16:09, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- I did not make any edit to Balkans! The links (this and this) you give do not include anything about me. I am Alexy Flemming, not Alex. Read the things carefully first, please!Alexyflemming (talk) 17:29, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- The second thing is that the editing style in the articles of Northern Cyprus is also used by many Wiki users before me!Alexyflemming (talk) 17:32, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know who is "Alex" because my warning is for you. Any issue related to Greece or Turkey is covered under ARBMAC. Please see a similar warning about Northern Cyprus by AE admin EdJohnston. Northern Cyprus is covered under ARBMAC. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:25, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- I hope you will obey your own advice. Previously you mention "island nation of Cyprus" and "hiding the truth behind 1974". I remembered you the laughing of Karpasian donkeys who say "we are the only Cypriot in the island" and with "the 15-july coup and precedings". I hope this time your stance will not be in the way you behaved earlier.Alexyflemming (talk) 12:46, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- If your nonsense reply made any sense, grammatically or otherwise I could reply to it. But it doesn't. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:34, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- I hope you will obey your own advice. Previously you mention "island nation of Cyprus" and "hiding the truth behind 1974". I remembered you the laughing of Karpasian donkeys who say "we are the only Cypriot in the island" and with "the 15-july coup and precedings". I hope this time your stance will not be in the way you behaved earlier.Alexyflemming (talk) 12:46, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know who is "Alex" because my warning is for you. Any issue related to Greece or Turkey is covered under ARBMAC. Please see a similar warning about Northern Cyprus by AE admin EdJohnston. Northern Cyprus is covered under ARBMAC. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:25, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Changes to Template:Municipalities of Northern Cyprus
All the settlements you've added to the template are not municipalities. 31.153.94.214 (talk) 23:12, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
- They all have an administrative unit. The administor of that unit changes according to the size of the settlements. For example, "Mukhtar" if it is a small village; "Bucak/Belde administrator" if it is a "Bucak/Belde"; Mayor if it is among 5 cities. Also, please choose a username. Do not use IPs, since that IP may possibly comment in the name of you in future.Alexyflemming (talk) 08:20, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- Right, but only belediye are municipalities. 31.153.94.214 (talk) 09:48, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- See the infoboxes of the settlements, for example, Ayios_Theodhoros. There is an entry "Government" in the infoboxes. What type of administrative units has is stated there. Hence, if you know the types of each settlements, you can edit them there. ~I may edit also when I am enough idle.Alexyflemming (talk) 10:58, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- I don't understand what's that got to do with the navbox. If you're not gonna remove all the places you've added to it, then should we at least call it 'Settlements in Northern Cyprus' or something? 31.153.94.214 (talk) 12:10, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- The elections are held as "Belediye Seçimleri" (Municipality Elections). This is valid even though some of them are villages. Interpret "municipality" in broad sense as it is done in the definition of "municipality in Wikipwedia":
- The elections are held as "Belediye Seçimleri" (Municipality Elections). This is valid even though some of them are villages. Interpret "municipality" in broad sense as it is done in the definition of "municipality in Wikipwedia":
- I don't understand what's that got to do with the navbox. If you're not gonna remove all the places you've added to it, then should we at least call it 'Settlements in Northern Cyprus' or something? 31.153.94.214 (talk) 12:10, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- See the infoboxes of the settlements, for example, Ayios_Theodhoros. There is an entry "Government" in the infoboxes. What type of administrative units has is stated there. Hence, if you know the types of each settlements, you can edit them there. ~I may edit also when I am enough idle.Alexyflemming (talk) 10:58, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- Right, but only belediye are municipalities. 31.153.94.214 (talk) 09:48, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- A municipality is usually an urban administrative division having corporate status and usually powers of self-government or jurisdiction. The term municipality is also used to mean the governing body of a municipality.[1] A municipality is a general-purpose administrative subdivision, as opposed to a special-purpose district. The term is derived from French "municipalité" and Latin "municipalis".[2]
- The English word "Municipality" derives from the Latin social contract "municipium", meaning duty holders, referring to the Latin communities that supplied Rome with troops in exchange for their own incorporation into the Roman state (granting Roman citizenship to the inhabitants) while permitting the communities to retain their own local governments (a limited autonomy).
- A municipality can be any political jurisdiction from a sovereign state, such as the Principality of Monaco, or a small village, such as West Hampton Dunes, New York.
- Please read Wikipedia thoroughly. Also, you are "removing referenced info" from Kythera's page. This is prohibited in Wikipedia. There are many pages with "Trivia" Sub-heading.
Alexyflemming (talk) 13:10, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- Municipalities are not coterminous with any kind of settlement. Though Turkish Cypriot municipalities may carry the name of the largest settlement within their boundaries, municipality and settlement are not one and the same. (However, to avoid duplication, we've only got one article for both.) Various villages, though they belong to municipalities, are not them, and so, they've got no place on the navbox. 31.153.94.214 (talk) 14:11, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- Alternatively, what we could do is, keep all of them, but use nested lists to denote the municipality, e.g.
- Regardless, the way the navbox is now is no good. 31.153.94.214 (talk) 14:54, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- Your offer (using nesting to show hierarchy among settlements) seems to be plausible. But, that has also some disadvantages as well:
- Your offer (using nesting to show hierarchy among settlements) seems to be plausible. But, that has also some disadvantages as well:
- 1. Municipalities have the same name with the most significant village in that area. This causes the repeatition in vain (as is Vadili in your example)
- 2. The template inflates and gets bigger and bigger which is not good since there are also other templates in these pages which are shadowed in that case. If I can found a better way to show hierarchy without inflating the template, be sure that I 'll definetely apply it.
- Alexyflemming (talk) 15:44, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- Then maybe keep places that belong to the same municipality grouped and bold the settlement the municipality's named after? 31.153.94.214 (talk) 15:55, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- You are perfect! This did not come to my mind. I will apply your advice by looking the hierarchy in 2011 Census of North Cyprus. Thanks a lot once more.Alexyflemming (talk) 16:26, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
- Then maybe keep places that belong to the same municipality grouped and bold the settlement the municipality's named after? 31.153.94.214 (talk) 15:55, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
October 2014
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Northern Cyprus, you may be blocked from editing. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 14:40, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Your addition to Northern Cyprus has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text, or images borrowed from other websites, or printed material without a verifiable license; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. You copied a sentence from http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1218&context=curej . In addition to your WP:SYNTHESIS, this is a blatant copyright violation and WP:PLAGIARISM. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 14:43, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Your addition to Northern Cyprus has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text, or images borrowed from other websites, or printed material without a verifiable license; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Please do not add material from advertising sections. The so-called "Advocacy Department" from the Washington times is an advertising insert by the TRNC in the newspaper. Also you plagiarised from it: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/30/higher-education-turkish-republic-northern-cyprus/?page=2 Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 15:02, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- 0. You seem to be silent upon your "island nation of Cyprus" and "hiding behind 1974 events" in which you "equalized Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots who are totally different for 500 years" and "ignored 15 july coup of Greek Cypriot terrorists and declaration of Hellenic Republic of Cyprus and Makarios's "Cyprus was invaded by Greece" cry". These are proofs of your total biasedness in Cyprus issue in the past discussions in Wikipedia.
- 1. Blatant SP:SYNTHESIS and copyvio from http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1218&context=curej.
- Here, all the 3 info are sourced. Why do you revert to the previous case? The links actually proves the info in article is blatantly wrong! How can a country having 18.000 international university students (other than those 34.000 from Turkey) become dependent on Turkey? When USA attracted so many international university students, then does this make you state "USA is dependent on other countries?!!" 40% of GDP of Northern Cyprus is from education, only 50% of this 40% is from Turkey. "Turkey is the closest country to Northern Cyprus (after Cyprus), and hence it is very normal that trade relations are very big for these countries". The goods of France are most purchased by Germans. Does this make you state "France is dependent to Germany"?
- '2. You are adding 100% completely lie and wrong sources again and again. Why? For example, Gideon Boas(1 January 2012): "Northern Cyprus...is entirely dependent on Turkey for economic, political and military support." Colud you please ask ,"Dr" K, to Gideon how a country that takes more international (other than Turkey) university students than lots of the European countries can be "entirely" dependent on Turkey? Do not you get bothered to put us to a position of stupid and brainless?
- To your info, dear Dr. K: Armenians mentioned, written, showed "billions of times" "Armenian Genocide".
- European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) (17.12.2013, Perinçek v. Switzerland, application no. 27510/08): "1915 events cannot be qualified as genocide", and punished Switzerland!
- That is to say, dear Dr. K.,You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time. But, feel free. One can bury his head in the sand like an ostrich till the hunter (truth) faces him.
- To your info, dear Dr. K: Armenians mentioned, written, showed "billions of times" "Armenian Genocide".
- 3. Why do you revert to the previous case? The links actually proves the info in article is blatantly wrong! If you object from plagiarism approach, then you can at least delete my addition while deleting also the wrong, outdated and obsolete parts as well!
- 4. Dr.K. :"So-called "Advocacy Department" from the Washington times is advertising insert by TRNC in the newspaper."
- Do not you see the phrase "By The Washington Times Advocacy Department - - Tuesday, September 30, 2014" here?
- How can you insult a department of Washington Times as "so called"?
- Did you ever see any proof that page was ad of Northern Cyprus? From where do you derive this?
- "So called, so called,..." Continue...
- Your "so called" Northern Cyprus is today racing in Solar Race Car Championship in South Africa.
- Your "so called" Northern Cyprus participated in 2014 Robot Football Championship in Brasil in 2014.. Also, here.
- Your "so called" Northern Cyprus organized 2014 European Billiard Championship.
- Your "so called" Northern Cyprus will organize 2014 World Footballtennis Championship...
- You love the word "so called" dear Dr.K. Please, bring your non-so-called passport with you when passing to the north since "so called" officials will check it, otherwise you cannot enter to the north.
- 5. Also, "source and reference bombardment" and "Wikipedia policy bombardment" when your reasonings exhausted and disproven just show your recent character. Continue...
- Alexyflemming (talk) 17:58, 1 October 2014 (UTC)