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Revision as of 14:21, 18 January 2021 editGPinkerton (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users9,112 edits Not a fan of this image of Moshe: Replying to Gråbergs Gråa Sång (using reply-link)← Previous edit Revision as of 01:28, 19 January 2021 edit undoSrnec (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Page movers, Pending changes reviewers120,766 edits Not a fan of this image of Moshe: go with JordaensNext edit →
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:::::::, perhaps? Though I'd like to have that movie's portrayal as a leadimage at ]. But was good. ] (]) 13:19, 18 January 2021 (UTC) :::::::, perhaps? Though I'd like to have that movie's portrayal as a leadimage at ]. But was good. ] (]) 13:19, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
::::::::See, those cultural references are all to Cecil B. DeMille, not some baroque painting. ] (]) 14:21, 18 January 2021 (UTC) ::::::::See, those cultural references are all to Cecil B. DeMille, not some baroque painting. ] (]) 14:21, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
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I was thinking just the other day that we need an article on the Jordaens painting. I actually think that would make a great lead image! It is very ''distinctly'' Moses. Plus, he's looking right at you. ] (]) 01:28, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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Please remove depiction of Prophet Moses, it is a significant sin to depict a Prophet. Thank you. 2600:1700:FC10:EDD0:8D19:E5A0:D040:DDFC (talk) 18:04, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: Doing so would violate Misplaced Pages policy, specifically WP:NOTCENSORED. Favonian (talk) 18:11, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages is not censored, according to the NOTCENSORED policy, which states: Attempting to ensure that articles and images will be acceptable to all readers, or will adhere to general social or religious norms, is incompatible with the purposes of an encyclopedia. As such, religious objections to the inclusion of images are not considered valid reasons for removing images. GPinkerton (talk) 18:20, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Judith Tarr

Is it worth mentioning that her 1995 novel Pillar of Fire is based on the "Moses was Akhenaten" theory as advanced by Freud and Ahmed Osman? 216.255.171.122 (talk) 22:33, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Infobox is a violation of NPOV

Despite the article saying that scholars do not consider him a historical person, the infobox treats him as one. Doug Weller talk 12:53, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Doug Weller, Biblical figures are treated with more contempt around here than Star Trek characters. Do we need a banner labeling it "In-universe Information"? Elizium23 (talk) 13:53, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Leonard McCoy's infobox says "Star Trek character". I'd like infoboxes on pages like Moses, Saul etc to clearly state "Biblical figure" or something like that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:06, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Quite a few use {{Infobox character}} in fact, eg Isaac which says "In-universe information". Wouldn't it be easy just to create {{Infobox biblical character}} which would be less controversial? Doug Weller talk 14:30, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
See Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Bible which says use the appropriate infobox and refers to Help:Infobox. There's nothing to stop that being done and then mentioned at the various relevant projects. Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Infoboxes is an active project also. Doug Weller talk 14:35, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Sounds good. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:24, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
How do editors feel about this "solution"? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:29, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Better than before, but I still think an infobox is better. Doug Weller talk 18:07, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Historicity of Ishmael versus Moses discussion

Hi, please see Talk:Ishmael#Historicity of Ishmael versus Moses and Abraham. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 18:29, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Moses in Christianity

There seem to be no wiki page for Moses in Christianity, so the page goes to itself? Should a Moses in Christianity page be created and what should be included in it? Doremon764 (talk) 00:30, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

@Doremon764: Thanks for pointing that out; I added the link earlier but it redirects to the same section and I've removed it for now. An article could certainly be created; I suppose it would dwell on those aspects of Moses emphasized/diminished in Christianity relative to the other Abrahamic religions, and perhaps expand on Moses in Christian art in Late Antiquity, the Middle Ages, and thereafter. GPinkerton (talk) 06:14, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

We could also bring up Jude mentioning of the Testament of Moses when comparing to Jesus. Doremon764 (talk) 22:58, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

@Doremon764: Sure. And the Harrowing of Hell. And generally expand the mentions of Moses in the NT and in patristics. GPinkerton (talk) 23:38, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Not a fan of this image of Moshe

It might be artistically significant, but it's almost certainly a horribly inaccurate one and gives viewers the wrong idea as far as what he might have looked like. (As in, probably not so pink) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:7138:2B0:B:A2D6:268E:3993 (talk) 07:21, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Guidance at WP:LEADIMAGE, I assume you mean the current LI. "Horribly inaccurate" is probably right if one assumes some kind of Moses existed in history, but not necessarily relevant. One could argue that it's an improvement on the previous one, Moses is less golden and writes in a different language. What images are "best" in a context like this is very subjective. What alternative do you propose? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:07, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Current leadimage
Previous leadimage, I think
Another alternative. May not be considered "what our readers will expect to see" though
Gråbergs Gråa Sång, if "accuracy" is desired then the Dura image is probably best. I prefer the French-language Moses to the current one. GPinkerton (talk) 10:25, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
It's certainly older, but is the clothing much more "right" (huh, I didn't look very closely, and assumed it was latin)? I think the leadimage should be Moses with the tablets, and somewhat prefer Hebrew-language Moses of these two. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:44, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Gråbergs Gråa Sång, did I say correct? I mean current. GPinkerton (talk) 11:38, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
That makes more sense. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:40, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Actually, it might be best to have Charlton Heston with the tablets, probably the best known and most canonical image at this point. GPinkerton (talk) 12:29, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Mel Brooks, perhaps? Though I'd like to have that movie's portrayal as a leadimage at Tharbis. But Heston was good. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:19, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
See, those cultural references are all to Cecil B. DeMille, not some baroque painting. GPinkerton (talk) 14:21, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

I was thinking just the other day that we need an article on the Jordaens painting. I actually think that would make a great lead image! It is very distinctly Moses. Plus, he's looking right at you. Srnec (talk) 01:28, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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