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February 5

February 4

RD: Hy Cohen

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

 Bloom6132 (talk) 14:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

RD: Robert Dean (Canadian politician)

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Jmanlucas (talk · give credit)

 Bloom6132 (talk) 09:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support it seems a little brief but once again, we can't expect all recently deceased to have had epically transformative lives, there's a spectrum between being non-notable and getting a blurb. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support looks fine for a RD, well sourced. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:46, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Pretty good article, a couple writing issues but seems just about fine. Gex4pls (talk) 15:02, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Mathoor Govindan Kutty

• Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Indian Kathakali artist. Sangeet Natak Akademi Award winner. Article has shaped to a good start-class biography. Ktin (talk) 04:09, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support - seems to meet requirements. - Indefensible (talk) 05:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Suppport good enough for RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:47, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Termination of United States Support for Saudi Arabian-led intervention in the Yemeni Civil War

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

A good faith nomination but these types of incremental policy changes are rarely published at ITN and the consensus is that the updates are of insufficient quality to overcome the perceived lack of significance. --LaserLegs (talk) 15:09, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

• Nominated by An IP editor (talk · give credit)
• Created by Kudzu1 (talk · give credit)

• Oppose Awful article, not updated, "announcements" as news.130.233.213.199 (talk) 08:12, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose who cares who the US "supports" in war efforts? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:38, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose this is not a US new site. A worldwide encyclopedia shouldn't publish every US policy and decision. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:53, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose This was obviously going to happen, and we can't just post every single US decision, per above. Gex4pls (talk) 13:14, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – We are not a detrumpification ticker. – Sca (talk) 13:51, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Removal of 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest from Ongoing

 The oldest item blurbed in the ITN template is 2021 Russian protests, which has updates up to Feburary 2. This is the benchmark I am using to assess for updates in the 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest article (are updates older than this). In the past 5 days, here are the recent updates in the farmer's protest article:

• A quote about farmers demands (Note: the list of farmers demands uses references that are all 2+ months old from early December, so it does not appear that the list of demands themselves has changed)
• Two sentences about placement of road barricades on the way to Delhi
• A journalist is granted bail
• Human Rights Watch issues a statement
• The most substantial update is with regards to a "social media war" that "erupted after a tweet by Rihanna"

Due to the lack of continuing substantial updates to the article that are more recent than the oldest item on ITN, this should not remain in Ongoing indefinitely and should be removed. The article can be renominated if future protests worsen and the article reflects such. While I am sure there is more recent news coverage of recent events, these events are not reflected in the article by substantial updates, which is a requirement for items to remain in the Ongoing section. Spencer 22:53, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support Removal The most recent update was the Republic day protest over a week ago and it was a month between that and the one before. Article also suffers the usual pathologies of hyper-reporting, quote farm, and need for a copyedit. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:05, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose again as this event is still very much ongoing. It is getting active international attention per the nomination, and another example is Greta Thunberg became involved on February 3 (per the article). It has not resolved in any sufficient manner to justify removal at this time. The Russian protests can be added to ongoing in parallel without needing to remove this item. - Indefensible (talk) 01:57, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose: still in the news, especially after Rihanna's tweet yesterday strangely effected a strong reaction from the Indian govt. Coverage of the event via BBC, Associated Press, Deccan Herald, Deutsche Welle, and Nikkei, among others.  Bait30   04:32, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose, as above; still making headlines; on the BBC homepage when I checked a short while ago. Vanamonde (Talk) 05:12, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support removal This was up for removal as recently as last week, and we were all assured that THE NEXT BIG PROTEST that weekend would finally provide the updates necessary to keep it in Ongoing. That never happened; it was CRYSTAL as I pointed out at the time, and the material updates to the article do not even rise to the level of police blotter (we're now in Twitter beef territory!).130.233.213.199 (talk) 08:09, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support removal article not being updated? Time to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:38, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Weak Support removal While protests are very much still ongoing, if noone is going to update the article I don't really see the point. Gex4pls (talk) 13:17, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support removal – Per TRM, and because the topic has long been hyped. – Sca (talk) 13:54, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

RD: Lokman Slim

• Nominated by TuckerGladden (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Lebanese social activist who was assassinated. Article looks good. Tucker Gladden 👑 19:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose citations missing, raw URLs, odd Germanic Capitalisation of Heading... The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:20, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose some citations needed, and I have questions over NPOV. The heading on his death is labelled "assassination", with no clear evidence that he was assassinated (just speculation). Joseph2302 (talk) 10:55, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

RD: Robert A. Altman

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Brief but well-sourced, co-founder of Zenimax/Bethesda game developers Masem (t) 17:58, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support Looks like a good one! Tucker Gladden 👑 19:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article's pretty good, all sourced and whatnot Gex4pls (talk) 23:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Comment: Some of the BCCI trial section needs references, which I have tagged. I checked the WaPo and Times refs, which don't mention the tagged details. Rm "ready". Spencer 23:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article is well sourced and seems like a good candidate. Jurisdicta (talk) 00:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support I have resolved the remaining CNs, everything else looks good to go. But man, getting on the shitlists of then-Senator and later-Secretary of State John Kerry, the Federal Reserve AND the CIA? No wonder this guy's dead.130.233.213.199 (talk) 10:46, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

February 3

RD: Tony Trabert

• Nominated by Wolbo (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Former US tennis player and TV commentator. Won five Grand Slam singles titles and was ranked world No.1 in 1955. --Wolbo (talk) 00:22, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - looks mostly good but lacking references in a few spots. - Indefensible (talk) 05:23, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Indefensible, I have added several references, can you have a look again if this is sufficient? --Wolbo (talk) 09:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – the "Major finals" and "Singles performance timeline" sections are unreferenced. See Ashley Cooper (tennis) (which was successfully nominated to ITNRD last May) as an example of what is expected. —Bloom6132 (talk) 10:13, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose as per the above comment, those sections need sourcing- even if it's just from a stats website. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:57, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Bloom6132, Joseph2302, sources have now been added to these sections. The Ashley Cooper example was useful.--Wolbo (talk) 12:24, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Glad you found the Cooper article helpful. The last sentence of the "Post-playing career" and "Awards and honors" sections are unreferenced. You may want to remove the Trabert Cup sentence, as even I found it difficult to find any reliable sources re its establishment in 2000. —Bloom6132 (talk) 12:34, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Bloom6132, I temporarily removed both sentences. Will re-add the Kramer comment on the 21 best players after I have found the reference (I know it exists). Could find plenty of references to the Tony Trabert Cup but those were all to editions of the tournament and have not yet found any source to support that is was established in 2000. --Wolbo (talk) 13:11, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

RD: Haya Harareet

• Nominated by Tunestoons (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Only been slightly updated; filmography needs referencing and there is admittedly not much substantive information about her film roles Tunestoons (talk) 11:41, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose too much unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:16, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose A whole section missing inline citations. ─ The Aafī on Mobile 10:05, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jim Weatherly

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

 Bloom6132 (talk) 10:34, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support Appropriate depth of coverage; referenced. Spencer 18:23, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Well referenced; being a Mississippian is a plus. :) Tucker Gladden 👑 19:16, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:15, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer 23:04, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Wayne Terwilliger

• Updated and nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Rcb1 (talk · give credit) and Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: American baseball player/coach. Some referencing problems, I'll be working on those shortly. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:06, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Comment References have been added. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:35, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Seems like a good article. Tucker Gladden 👑 00:44, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 02:51, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

February 2

(Posted) RD: Libuše Domanínská

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Operatic soprano who made a great Czech composer known beyond their home country. Well described in various sources in various languages. Age 96. Expanded. Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support. Short, but quite reasonable quality-wise. I am not sure how much an article of this kind could realistically be expected to grow. —Brigade Piron (talk) 16:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support quite short, but fine for RD. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:35, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Good enough. Grimes2 (talk) 18:21, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support per all of the above. Tucker Gladden 👑 19:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

  Thank you, all. I added roles (some operas and composers I never heard of), and the German Misplaced Pages now has an article, in case someone has time to get over more from there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:00, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer 23:01, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Rennie Davis

• Nominated by GeoGreg (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Well-known American activist, member of the Chicago Seven, one of the subjects of a recent feature film. GeoGreg (talk) 02:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support - seems to meet requirements. - Indefensible (talk) 04:36, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support everything is in order.Oppose The outcome of the trial (which was not straightforward) is not discussed in this BLP. Arguably, the protest/riot/trial is the single event giving this subject WP:N.130.233.213.199 (talk) 07:53, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer 23:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Bump Alexei Navalny

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

• Nominated by Modest Genius (talk · give credit)

• Weak oppose - agreed that this is in the news, but since we covered his arrest already, it seems slightly redundant to then cover his sentencing as a fresh item one week later. If the protests are major and ongoing, perhaps the "Ongoing" section would be a better fit?  — Amakuru (talk) 12:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support remove the previous blurb and promote this one to top of the box. Banedon (talk) 12:39, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose posting sentencing, per years of consensus around criminal proceedings, and completely expected. If this is still generating headlines and the article reflects that, then make an Ongoing nomination. Note: "roll-off" Ongoing posting was discussed in here, so please make a separate nomination.130.233.213.199 (talk) 12:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
  • It's both conviction (of parole violation) and sentencing. Past practice has been to post at the time of conviction. Modest Genius 13:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per 130. Just a natural progression and suitable for ongoing should the main blurb roll off. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Bump Article is pretty good, topic is in the news, it won't bump anything off the bottom and the Estonian election is getting pretty stale. Oppose Ongoing he's been sentenced to the gulag and that's the end of it. All that'll be ongoing from here on it whining on social media and strongly worded statements of concern from various governments. --LaserLegs (talk) 13:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose - I don't think anyone genuinely thought his trial would end in any way other than sentencing to a gulag.--WaltCip-(talk) 13:41, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Mention it in protests page, not ITN. WikiLove Goat 🐐 13:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose as the conviction/sentence was fully expected; more than likely the protests will continue (into ongoing). --Masem (t) 14:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support – In the news and likely to engender further protests. – Sca (talk) 15:11, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose posting when Putin imprisons an opponent would be like posting when a earthquake doesn't happen. GreatCaesarsGhost 16:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Russia sends a putin opponent to jail! In other news, the sky is blue and fish are swimming in the sea. Gex4pls (talk) 23:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Charan Gill

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

• Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

• Support - article seems to meet requirements. Sounds like an interesting life. - Indefensible (talk) 07:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 11:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Request to Admins. This article is now the last one (sixth) on the carousel and has stayed on the carousel for ~12 hours. When you post the next RD, please consider giving this article some more time on the carousel before bumping it off. Line #2 of the RD is currently 30-40% filled on most screen resolutions. Ktin (talk) 00:51, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• @Stephen: -- This article spent ~14 hours on RD before being bumped off the carousel. There is 50% of row #2 that is still available. I request you to consider bringing this article back on the RD carousel. Ktin (talk) 02:54, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• We already had this discussion on another item? Stephen 03:00, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

  Stephen, I fail to see why we can not use the 50% of the remaining space on row #2 to reintroduce this article and allowing it to run 24 hours. Is there anything we stand to lose by doing this? Editors do spend a significant amount of time to bring articles up to homepage levels of hygiene. The least we can do is to allow the RDs to run, particularly when space is available on row #2. Not to mention that the COVID banner was removed to create space for a row #3 if needed. Ktin (talk) 03:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• As explained, there was no consensus for minimum durations or more than 6 RDs. Removing the COVID banner means we can now support 4 or 5 blurbs, as we used to before it was introduced. Stephen 03:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

  Stephen, But, there is 50% space remaining on row 2. How would we explain not wanting to use that? Ktin (talk) 03:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Statement of Protest. Adding my statement of protest here against the above Admin action. With 50% of space being available in row #2, the lack of flexibility shown to go on to retain this as RD7 on the carousel shows a deliberate lack of consideration to editors' efforts to work an article to get it to homepage levels of hygiene. While recourse available might be limited or even nil, there is nothing more this specific editor can do. This thread is being closed. Ktin (talk) 04:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

  What you can do is start a discussion to see if there is community consensus to increase to 7, or even 8 RDs, under certain circumstances. This is better than asking repeatedly and complaining when you get the same answer that you don't like. Stephen 04:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Maureen Colquhoun

• Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit) and MumphingSquirrel (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: First openly lesbian British MP. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 06:10, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support - article seems to meet requirements. - Indefensible (talk) 07:05, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Weak oppose - few citations needed. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:58, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  The Rambling Man, would you mind CN-tagging some of the places that need refs? PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  I did about 12 hours ago. Looks like they've been addressed. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support As per Indefensible. WikiLove Goat 🐐 13:40, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer 22:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bob McCallister

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (February 2). —Bloom6132 (talk) 03:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support - short but sourcing is adequate. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 05:30, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:56, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose - This guy was known for being a golfer, right, so the "Career" section should be the most important shouldn't it? Yet our article has only six short sentences in that section, one of which is "He was sponsored by Lawrence Welk". Unmarking as Ready for now, because I think we can do better than this. I can see that his career didn't last that long, but give us a bit more detail on how it progressed please. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 11:48, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  I thought that too, but then there are an awful lot of golfers out there who don't amount to much. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:01, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• @Amakuru: done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 14:03, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose the Career section is only 3 lines long- this needs significant expansion. Also, the "Best results in major championships" don't seem to be sourced. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:58, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• @Joseph2302: Fixed. —Bloom6132 (talk) 14:03, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  @Bloom6132: I think this refers to the lines in the inbox with his best results in the Majors. It says that his best results were making the cut at the 1966 Masters, tying for 21st at the 1963 US Open, and that he never played in the Open Championship. That should be sourced. Otherwise I think your changes look good. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 14:23, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• @Amakuru: Missed that; thanks for explaining! —Bloom6132 (talk) 14:28, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Article missing out too much. WikiLove Goat 🐐 13:39, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• @WikiLove Goat: done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 14:03, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support Sourced and all that. Gex4pls (talk) 22:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• @Spencer, Stephen, and Amakuru: been ready for 9 hours now. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:28, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:44, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Grant Jackson

• Updated and nominated by TuckerGladden (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Gex4pls (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Baseball player who played for the Phillies, Pirates, Orioles, and more, and later a coach. Won the World Series with the Pirates. Article looks OK. Tucker Gladden 👑 19:46, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose plenty unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:01, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

  @The Rambling Man, all fixed along with some help. Tucker Gladden 👑 20:22, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

  Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:52, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support looks good. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 06:06, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 11:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Abu Salman Shahjahanpuri

• Updated and nominated by TheAafi (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: A known, notable scholar and historian, admired both in India and Pakistan. This deserves a main page mention. Though the news has not been widely covered. Ideas? ─ The Aafī 17:41, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Neutral Eh. I don't know how to feel about this one. Tucker Gladden 👑 18:02, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

*Neutral Part referanced, part not. WikiLove Goat 🐐 18:09, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• I don't know if anything is left unreferenced? Could you please point out? ─ The Aafī on Mobile 18:12, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose no way enough time has passed to allow a sufficiently in-depth search for a free image. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:16, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

  The Rambling Man, If that's the single issue, I've removed it. Image may be added later. What else stops the article from ITN/RD? Nothing? Article has a good shape. Good lede. Everything is referenced well. ─ The Aafī 05:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Comment The legacy section could probably be dispersed throughout the article. Gex4pls (talk) 19:05, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

  Gex4pls, Fixed few things and updated a bit more references. I've exams in the morning and would leave this as it is until I'm done with the exams. I'd appreciate sincere advises. Daily Jang has now reported his death as well. ─ The Aafī 19:14, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

  TheAafi Nice work, I think I'll Support if there could be a better image, good luck on exams! Gex4pls (talk) 19:56, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article is better, I don't know about any wikimedia problems with the image, but the new one at least looks better than the old one. Gex4pls (talk) 20:21, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Inadequate depth of coverage. Article has a huge gap in coverage between ~1960 and 2002, when he was presumably doing all of his writing. What did he write about/what was his research field? There is a single sentence stating that he was an "authority on historical and political movements of the Indian subcontinent", but this needs to be a whole section, or well fleshed-out paragraph at minimum. Spencer 00:10, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Spencer, Allow me some time and I'll address this issue. I'll be back once I'm done with this. ─ The Aafī on Mobile 03:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  AafiOnMobile, focus on your exams. Do not worry about rushing to make these edits. You have at least 4-5 more days to get this article ready for homepage. Good luck. Ktin (talk) 05:33, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Ktin,Thank you for the supplement. I'm done with the exam and this is why I'm editing the article. I'll be expanding and updating it timely. :) ─ The Aafī 05:57, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Spencer, I've tried addressing this issue as much as I could. It is very hard at this moment to find much in-depth coverage, even offline. I guess the book Akhtarul Wasey has co-authored about him would be available here, but still idk when I'll have access to it.The What did he write about/what was his research field? is addressed mostly. ─ The Aafī 05:05, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose per TRM - too soon for a non-free image to be used. For all we know someone might have photographed him on Monday. Enough time needs to pass since his death to be certain that a free alternative cannot reasonably be found.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Amakuru, If the image is the only problem, let us not use it at all. A free alternative image may be added later. Muhammad Adil Khan, that I wrote in October, is still without an image, and it featured in the ITN section on 18 October 2020. I don't know any other problem? ─ The Aafī 16:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 05:34, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Captain Sir Tom Moore

• Nominated by KTC (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Joseph2302 (talk · give credit)

 KTC (talk) 16:15, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support and added myself as an updater. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:19, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Strong support Did plenty for his community. May he rest in peace. Tucker Gladden 👑 16:24, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted Article is impeccably cited, no reason to wait. Black Kite (talk) 16:30, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Note: his misguided first marriage to "Billie" (which lasted 15 years), has now been expunged, as his autobiography is not considered a suitable source (Talk page discussion ongoing). Martinevans123 (talk) 16:32, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Comment the medals section is mostly unreferenced, but I also don't care. --LaserLegs (talk) 16:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Was going to nominate this myself. His death should definitely be "In the news". REDMAN 2019 (talk) 19:22, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Strong support ftr. In fact, the strongest I've ever given an ITN to date. --TheSandDoctor 19:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Hal Holbrook

• Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Article well sourced. Death was announced today (a few minutes ago) despite his death being a week old. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 06:48, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support I was just coming here to nominate him. Johndavies837 (talk) 06:49, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Deep Throat was Abraham Lincoln, the people need to know. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:24, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Weak neutral - the bio starts quite nicely, but then degenerates a bit into a series of one-line paragraphs. It's generally OK though, so I'll stay on the fence for now. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 12:08, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• @Amakuru: Fixed it. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:13, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support Writing problems are fixed and it's all cited well. Gex4pls (talk) 13:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted - thanks TDKR for addressing the point I raised...  — Amakuru (talk) 14:09, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

February 1

(Posted) RD: Emil J. Freireich

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

 Bloom6132 (talk) 08:26, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Weak oppose - the guy had a long career, but really the only thing we're covering is the chemotherapy developments which took place in the 1960s. Is there nothing else to say about his subsequent work? Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 12:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• @Amakuru: I've added an additional paragraph that should suffice. Please note that every award listed is post-1960s. —Bloom6132 (talk) 13:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Comment: Article really doesn't do his career justice, particularly his career in the 1950s at NCI. Ref 1 is a dead link for me (bare link url to the NIH site). Article should clarify when he started at MD Anderson. Possible additional sources:
  • Pop the DOI into Sci-Hub if you need to get around the paywall. Has more details about his personal life including family.

--Spencer 23:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• @Spencer: Thanks for the sources! I've archived the deadlink and made use of the first one to address the last CN tag. The second source was already included (ref 9), but I've re-used it to verify his start at MD Anderson. —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:28, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support - sad to see this, remember reading about him a while back and he made significant contributions early in the oncology field. Article is understated and could use improvement but meets the minimum requirements I think. - Indefensible (talk) 00:43, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:10, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support It's fine. Gex4pls (talk) 13:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer 15:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jacqueline Shumiatcher

• Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
• Created by Yoninah (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Yoshi876 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Canadian philanthropist. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 06:17, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support - article seems to meet requirements. - Indefensible (talk) 07:09, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted - Dumelow (talk) 10:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

RD: John Sweeney (labor leader)

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: American labor leader. Article is almost there. A few sections are unsourced and these would need to be sourced. Ktin (talk) 23:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Almost nothing on his death, and although it starts out well sourced, by the end there are only ~1-2 sources per section. Gex4pls (talk) 00:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Gex4pls, yup. Will require some work. I share your same concern, particularly the latter part. If you want to get to it before I do later tonight, go for it. Else, I will attempt later tonight. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 00:20, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  I'll try and get some sourcing and whatnot done in the next couple of hours, but I doubt it will be enough for the time being. Gex4pls (talk) 00:41, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Gex4pls, I over-estimated my own ability to edit on a work-day night. This might have to wait until tomorrow. Ktin (talk) 05:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Comment - presumably some of the same references which cover the early sections also apply to the later sections which need improvement currently, but still have to be matched appropriately. This is perhaps a case of having too much content being inhibitory to posting, versus someone whose article has much less content which can more easily get approved. - Indefensible (talk) 07:13, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Indefensible, Yes, partly agree. But, we can definitely improve the article. Ricky Powell was in a similar state, but, we were able to get it to homepage levels of hygiene. This one will take time, but, will be done soon. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 07:17, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose too many unreferenced claims. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:48, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ricky Powell

• Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Updated by MarnetteD (talk · give credit) and Gex4pls (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: American photographer. Article requires some good amount of work including acting on removal of the yellow box. I will work on this one later this evening. If someone wants to get to this before, please feel free to. Thanks. Thorough rewrite done. Article meets hygiene expectations for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 23:43, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support - looks good to me. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 05:31, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:46, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted - Dumelow (talk) 08:40, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

RD: Peter T. Fay

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

 Bloom6132 (talk) 11:18, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Comment American attorney and judge. InedibleHulk (talk) 13:12, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Weak support per WP:PROMO. There is a bit where the writer mentions things about Fay that sounds like a promotion. Otherwise it's ready. Tucker Gladden 👑 14:48, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Neutral Meh, article is OK. WikiLove Goat 🐐 14:57, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Weak oppose. Added one tag for info not covered in a ref. Incomplete depth of coverage: as with other judges nominated at RD I would really like to see specific information on cases he saw, rather than vague obit-style quotes about his career. Article could also use an update, as St. Thomas will only be naming it's Moot Courtroom after Fay, not the whole school (source). Other gaps appear in his career, such as him serving on the Special Panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, Independent Counsel from 1994-2006 . Another source of information. Per this source, Judge Fay was noteworthy for "unique and innovative procedures" related to an airline disaster case, highlighted more in depth here. Spencer 00:32, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jack Palladino

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Pkeets (talk · give credit)

 Bloom6132 (talk) 04:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:56, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 10:25, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Comment American private investigator and attorney. InedibleHulk (talk) 13:08, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Andrew Brooks

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Created by Drew Dupont (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Indefensible (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: COVID-19 researcher. Article is being fleshed out. Not ready yet for mainpage but, I will work on it later this evening in case others do not. Gave this a quick break into segments and added some basic content. But, article is ready as it stands right now to get in within the 7 day marker. Thanks Indefensible first for the catch and Amakuru for the second catch. Ktin (talk) 21:39, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Comment - deserves to be posted but may be too late already, as he died on January 23 and an announcement came out on the 26th. - Indefensible (talk) 21:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

  Indefensible, Eikes. My bad -- I missed this. Ktin (talk) 22:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

  If the earliest announcement was on 26 Jan then you should be OK. You have up to 7 days to get it ready.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:20, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

  Pretty close then, let's get this one ready Ktin. Looks pretty good already. - Indefensible (talk) 22:25, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support A bit short but says everything it needs to. Gex4pls (talk) 22:52, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Weak oppose A shade too brief on his academic/research career; he has 70 publications--what were they about? Spencer 23:50, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

  Spencer, thanks Spencer. This is done.Please have a look at your convenience. Ktin (talk) 01:25, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:55, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 10:21, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Simeon Nyachae

• Nominated by Indefensible (talk · give credit)
• Updated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Kenyan businessman & politician. - Indefensible (talk) 19:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:04, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

  Weak oppose AleatoryPonderings' point is spot on, some of the tone needs adjustment, let's stick with biography, not hagiography. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:56, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support Full of satis. Tucker Gladden 👑 20:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• :Oppose Thank you, AleatoryPonderings. Article needs tone fix. Tucker Gladden 👑 04:43, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:PROMO. Reads like a bio you'd find on his personal website. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 21:42, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Support. Nice job PCN02WPS in cleaning up the prose. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 14:49, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose As per Aleatory above. WikiLove Goat 🐐 14:32, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Comment - Pinging oppose votes: @The Rambling Man, TuckerGladden, AleatoryPonderings, and WikiLove Goat: - I have gone through the article and done my best to remove the promotional tone and bring the article back in line with NPOV. I'd appreciate if you'd give the article another look. Thanks, PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 05:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Thanks for updating the article PCN02WPS. - Indefensible (talk) 07:44, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Sweet, support. Tucker Gladden 👑 13:42, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

*Comment TuckerGladden and WikiLove Goat are the same user and have been blocked for sockpuppetry. P-K3 (talk) 21:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, P-K3. Hope you are doing well. I was falsely blocked and accused of being a sockpuppet of Valkyried. I'm back now. Just wanted to clear the air. Tucker Gladden 👑 00:12, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah, ok, I will strike - sorry about that. P-K3 (talk) 01:54, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article improved, I don't see any issues now. P-K3 (talk) 21:40, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted. Spencer 22:45, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Dustin Diamond

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by JasonH1978 (talk · give credit), TropicAces (talk · give credit) and PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)

 – Muboshgu (talk) 19:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - needs referencing improvement still. - Indefensible (talk) 19:21, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose tagged. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:01, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• OpposeSupport Article is now just about fine.Very poor referencing, and some writing issues too. Gex4pls (talk) 22:42, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Very poorly written and has very bad referencing. Filmography is tagged; issues need to be resolved before we think about posting this. Tucker Gladden 👑 20:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Maintenance tag in section. Post posting support. Kudos to @PCN02WPS: for the improvements. --NoonIcarus (talk) 12:36, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb. No, I'm just kidding. BD2412 T 00:53, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support No joke, it's better now. Adequate, anyway, by my eye. I don't consider filmography sections, though. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Unsourced filmography.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:26, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose filmography completely unsourced, multiple other places need a cite too. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Not completely unsourced, Screeched: Saved by the Smell has two. Granted, that just makes the rest look worse. But hey, at least the filmography doesn't imply he stabbed a guy, like the sourced section does. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:13, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Well in fairness, sources do actually say he was sentenced for stabbing someone!  — Amakuru (talk) 12:06, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

They only got him for disorderly conduct and possession, they tried to prove more (and couldn't). InedibleHulk (talk) 12:15, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

But yes, CNN did actually say what you say it did there, your point is fair enough. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:56, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

*Oppose Horrible article. WikiLove Goat 🐐 14:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC) Blocked sock. P-K3 (talk) 21:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support I WP:BOLDly commented out the filmography (not the first time this has happened) because honestly, Diamond was known as one character and that's covered well in the career section. Seems good enough for me. --LaserLegs (talk) 16:13, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
  • That is not an appropriate action; as an actor, I would fully expect a filmography section to be present, so commenting it out to sweep it under the rug is not acceptable. --Masem (t) 17:45, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Seems to fit the spirit of verification, not truth to me. Not sure why the films/shows themselves are not considered reliable sources; no difference in editorial oversight between a textual and visual medium, but that's not my hill to die on. - Floydian  _¢ 17:52, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
      • Some of the films don't even have articles. WP:V is policy. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:55, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
        • As TRM states, if these were all main roles easily checked by the lede of the target article, this likely won't be a problem. But most of these are guest spots, which require more detailed sourcing, which should have been added when they were added to the article per BLP sourcing requirements. --Masem (t) 04:45, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
    • IDK what the problem his, he had one role that mattered: saved by the bell, listing every guest appearance in a table adds nothing of value for our readers, but I also don't care that much at this point. --LaserLegs (talk) 18:51, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Comment - I don't guarantee results, but I am making an attempt to clean up the article (writing and sourcing) in order to try to get this on the main page. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 04:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Pinging oppose votes: @Indefensible, The Rambling Man, Gex4pls, TuckerGladden, NoonIcarus, BD2412, Amakuru, Joseph2302, and WikiLove Goat: I have done my best to improve the quality of the article and its sourcing. I'd appreciate any feedback or re-evaluation of the nomination. Thanks, PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 05:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Much closer, but still has a few too many items that need references I think. Good work on the improvements. - Indefensible (talk) 06:56, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Indefensible, if it's not too much trouble, could you CN-tag some of the places that need refs? PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 07:35, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Yes, have done so in the article in a few places where statements seem to be lacking a ref. Chances are they are covered by one of the existing refs and just need to be tagged. - Indefensible (talk) 07:43, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

  Indefensible, all CN tags have been taken care of. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support Referencing now sorted.-- P-K3 (talk) 15:46, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted. Referencing looks in good shape now. Spencer 22:39, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jamie Tarses

• Nominated by TuckerGladden (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: First woman president of ABC Entertainment. Article looks good. Tucker Gladden 👑 18:07, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - needs referencing improvement currently. - Indefensible (talk) 18:57, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• @Indefensible: done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 00:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose tagged. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:00, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• @The Rambling Man: tags now addressed. —Bloom6132 (talk) 00:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Entire filmography section unsourced. All fixed up, nice job Bloom. Gex4pls (talk) 02:42, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• @Gex4pls: filmography all sourced now. —Bloom6132 (talk) 00:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Sweet, changing to a support. Gex4pls (talk) 02:42, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support per improvement by Bloom6132, article now looks good. - Indefensible (talk) 00:44, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 03:08, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

RD: Percy Tucker

• Updated and nominated by Abishe (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: introduced the first electronic theatre booking system in the world. Abishe (talk) 13:56, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support Good little article, needs referencing though. Tucker Gladden 👑 14:42, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I'm surprised that if Computicket "drastically changed the fortunes in the global entertainment industry" that (a) it doesn't have an article and (b) I've never 'eard of it... The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support As per Tucker above. WikiLove Goat 🐐 18:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support - article seems to meet RD requirements. - Indefensible (talk) 19:02, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Weak oppose - we're told that he founded Computicket and pioneered the use of electronic tickets (via a "source" which makes you click Next 18 times in order to view one of text!) and that he was CEO of the company for the next 23 years, but nothing beyond that. How did the company do during those years? Did it remain at the forefront of that business? And how was the product globalised? Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 10:17, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
• Weak oppose per Amakuru. Insufficient depth of coverage of the subject. Spencer 16:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) Aung San Suu Kyi detained in potential coup

• Nominated by Davey2116 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Story still developing. I'd be okay with waiting to write a better blurb. Davey2116 (talk) 00:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support but there should be a link to 2021 Myanmar coup d'état attempt. Johndavies837 (talk) 00:07, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support We should use this article instead 2021 Myanmar coup d'état attempt and also change it to 1 February, considering this happened at 1 February local time. Shushugah (talk) 00:08, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Done, thanks. Davey2116 (talk) 00:21, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Wait the article sucks. Detained where? How? No statement from the military? If you take out the filler "background" section there is no meat on the article. Also can someone confirm if we like Aung San Suu Kyi or not? If we do, it's a coup, but if we don't, it's an "uprising" --LaserLegs (talk) 00:25, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

You can support a coup or a not, but it's a coup. The article is written in an encyclopedic and neutral tone. Shushugah (talk) 00:28, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Right but Maduro Derangement Syndrome compelled us to call the 2019 Venezuelan coup attempt an "uprising". Anyway I think we "like" Aung San Suu Kyi because we blurbed her nobel prize, blurbed her getting out of prison, blurbed her election, so I expect "coup" is the correct nomenclature here but I just wanted someone to double check me. Article still sucks. --LaserLegs (talk) 00:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

No, we (and, indeed, many others) don't like her anymore (Aung_San_Suu_Kyi#Response_to_violence_against_Rohingya_Muslims_and_refugees). Regardless, though, this is just a military coup. Black Kite (talk) 00:53, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Exactly. We incorrectly called the Venezuela one an uprising, but I don't think calling this one an uprising too would right that wrong. Davey2116 (talk) 03:51, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support but the article does need a little work. Wowzers122 (talk) 00:38, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support - the paucity of information in the article is just because not much information is available right now. However, what's there is clear and well-cited and no doubt will continue to improve as more information is reported. Ganesha811 (talk) 00:53, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

  Update needed - as the military has now confirmed this is a coup, the blurb should be changed to reflect that when it is posted. Ganesha811 (talk) 02:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Wait - the article is essentially a stub, Misplaced Pages is not a newspaper but rather an encyclopedia. It would be better not to rush but to wait until there is more information and the article is improved. - Indefensible (talk) 01:04, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Wait: The claim has not yet been independently verified. All sources are currently only referencing what the party says. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 01:11, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

The Military's own media has declared a 1 year state of emergency tweet journalist source Shushugah (talk) 02:25, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support military confirms, then it's legit. Article is short but good enough given this development. --LaserLegs (talk) 02:54, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Though could we please not have the wall of reactions? No reasonable country is going to endorse the uprising. --LaserLegs (talk) 02:56, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support military confirms.--Namnguyenvn (talk) 03:05, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Bio article is good, other is meh. A major coup, could have ramifications throughout SE Asia. Gex4pls (talk) 03:41, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
•  Posted The coup article has a statement by the military which I believe is the bare minimum to post, although I agree that it's currently a bit short. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 03:51, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @John M Wolfson: Shouldn't it say "coup d'état" instead of "potential coup"? The blurb with "potential coup" was written when the situation was still unclear. Johndavies837 (talk) 03:59, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
    • @Johndavies837: I wanted to be cautious, but as it appears that the coup has been (for now) successful, it seems appropriate to duly change the blurb. (Also, FYI, use {{ping}} to get the effect you wanted.) – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 04:02, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

January 31

(Posted) RD: Michel Murr

• Nominated by Indefensible (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Lebanese deputy prime minister, interior minister. COVID-19. - Indefensible (talk) 20:44, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Really nice article. WikiLove Goat (talk) 22:11, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article is good, all sourced and very well written. Gex4pls (talk) 22:46, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 23:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

2021 World Men's Handball Championship

• Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
• Created by Kante4 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ekkemannen (talk · give credit) and Kante4 (talk · give credit)

 PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 01:47, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose a data dump. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:42, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per TRM. Needs some serious tidy up - there are far too many tables, and far too little prose. Including any commentary at all on Denmark's performances and matches which led to their win.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:38, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Hire a mechanic or something, cause this needs serious repairs. WikiLove Goat (talk) 13:39, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

  Say what? – Sca (talk) 14:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose almost no text about the tournament, not even a summary of the final. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:39, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

RD: Abraham J. Twerski

• Nominated by PCN02WPS (talk · give credit)
• Created by Diament (talk · give credit)
• Updated by DaringDonna (talk · give credit) and Pwslaw (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: American rabbi and psychiatrist, died of COVID-19. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:37, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose. Vast swathes of the article are large block-quotes of a single scholar's take on his work. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 03:50, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per AleatoryPonderings. Tucker Gladden 👑 04:48, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Seems like a nice guy, but I agree with AleatoryPonderings. Also, his works have almost no referances at all. WikiLove Goat (talk) 13:42, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Only two of his bajillion works are referenced, as well as the problems mentioned above. Gex4pls (talk) 13:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

January 30

(Posted) RD: Wilhelm Knabe

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Co-founder of The Greens in Germany, member of parliament, scientific knowledge of forests and environment, 97 rich years, in opposition already as a student in East Germany, then West, opposition to arms race ... - I am sorry it took me so long to expand the article. The source given here is the best, but so far only external link, - will work on it right now, he deserves it. Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support Very well deserved; only problem is sourcing. Either way I think it is ready for the main page. Tucker Gladden 👑 17:52, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Comment - publications section may need clean up as it is largely unsupported, but otherwise the article looks good. - Indefensible (talk) 18:50, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

  I added a ref to it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

  Support per above. - Indefensible (talk) 19:50, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

  Comment. Gerda -- very nice job in expanding the article. Can you take one pass on trimming the lede of the article? Currently the lede is a narrative, keep it only to the most important elements in a declarative tone. Move the narrative to the appropriate sections within the main body. Ktin (talk) 20:59, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

  That's what I did. With life in East and West, in science and politics, two parties, and these "firsts", hard to drop something. - I tried anyway. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer 23:40, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bill Hammond

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

 Bloom6132 (talk) 11:47, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:02, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Lots of referances, really like it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiLove Goat (talk • contribs) 13:43, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article is well referenced and whatnot. Gex4pls (talk) 14:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Per all of the above. Tucker Gladden 👑 17:23, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer 17:24, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Marc Wilmore

• Nominated by Nohomersryan (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Did some updating. I think this looks ok. Nohomersryan (talk) 04:11, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support Good for main page. Tucker Gladden 👑 04:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support – looks like it meets the criteria. Great work! —Bloom6132 (talk) 06:14, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:48, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 10:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Allan Burns

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)

 Bloom6132 (talk) 03:23, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support The article was in mediocre shape when I looked earlier, but it seems well-sourced now. Nohomersryan (talk) 02:10, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Support Update looks very good, well enough for the main page. Nice work. Tucker Gladden 👑 04:47, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose citation needed and awards table unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:43, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• @The Rambling Man: removed both. The table was added by another editor after the two support votes (but before your vote). I hope no one decides to re-add it. —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:55, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• @The Rambling Man: table now all sourced. —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:14, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:18, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 10:32, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Turki bin Nasser Al Saud

• Nominated by Indefensible (talk · give credit)
• Created by Egeymi (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Egeymi (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Saudi environment minister, Air Force leader - Indefensible (talk) 20:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:57, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support But I feel a couple sections could be combined. Gex4pls (talk) 21:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article really nice, guy seems important. WikiLove Goat (talk) 22:10, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 23:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Sophie (musician)

• Nominated by A lad insane (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Gobonobo (talk · give credit), AleatoryPonderings (talk · give credit) and Kkollaps (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Article not ready yet. News still breaking. Musician/trans icon. Fairly okay sourcing. -- a lad insane (channel two) 11:24, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment - some citations are needed here and there, which I have marked in the article. Other than that it looks in reasonable shape.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:28, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – Fairly widely covered. Sophie's last name was Xeon, so suggest she be listed in RDs as Sophie Xeon (more encyclopedic than her stage name). – Sca (talk) 14:37, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

  I don't agree with that last point I'm afraid. If she's widely known by the mononym, as is clear from the obits above as well as our own article title, then she should be listed under that mononym. I would say the WP:COMMONNAME policy should be followed for ITN entries in almost all cases, as it is for article titles. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 14:52, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

  Gordon Sumner would agree. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:01, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

  Quite so. Not to mention Louis Burton Lindley Jr. and Adele Adkins...  — Amakuru (talk) 15:21, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

  "Sophie Xeon (34), britische Musikerin († 30. Januar)" – Sca (talk) 15:31, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

  We all know that website is rubbish and often publishes junk. "Here come the Belgians!!" The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 16:53, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

AFAIK, Xeon is a very unusual surname, and it's one of the interesting things about this person. Some, perhaps many, of Sophie's fans may not have known what her last name was.
— We shouldn't trash other Wikis by bad-mouthing them as "rubbish" and "junk" – that's garbage, and I refuse to play the game. – Sca (talk) 17:34, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

I think we're all aware now, courtesy of the number of times you tell us what de.wiki is posting, that the contributors there are not interested in verifiable encyclopedic content, I do wonder why you think it's useful to tell us what such a badly managed Misplaced Pages is doing, unless I suppose it's to use it as a "what not to do" suggestion. They can't even get her mononym correct. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:05, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

The point was not that German Wiki is so great, but that Wikipedians somewhere else thought it useful to list both names.
Please desist from rudely disparaging the Germans. – Sca (talk) 14:13, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

It's German Misplaced Pages and those who think BLP isn't worth adhering to that I'm pointing out here. Time after time we get shown what de.wiki is doing, but it usually does it so badly, it's hardly an "example" to follow. They should be "informed" that they are incorrect, both on their main page and in the article. But then, verifiability isn't something they're worried about. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:31, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Looks like they've corrected at least one of their errors. Getting there! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:34, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Touché. I'm really not an apologist for German Wiki. It just happens to be the one other Misplaced Pages I can read easily. But my point was that Sophie's last name is interesting. (How does one pronounce Xeon? What's the derivation?) Further the affiant sayeth naught. – Sca (talk) 14:52, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Some, perhaps many, of Sophie's fans may not have known what her last name was. surely that's a reason not to post it. This isn't DYK. Kingsif (talk) 01:19, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

It might make an interesting DYK sometime down the road, though. – Sca (talk) 14:32, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Pity if all DYK could come up with about her was her surname. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:37, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

I imagine the DYKers – of whom I'm not one – could come up with something further. – Sca (talk) 14:59, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support. A few stray cns left but they are easily fixed. Otherwise a comprehensive, main page–worthy article. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 15:33, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support. Fully cited. I prefer the mononymous "Sophie" as the COMMONNAME, by far. feminist (talk) 17:08, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support All CN tags taken care of, looks ready for main page. Doc StrangeLogbook 17:12, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 17:22, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

January 29

(Posted) RD: Dick Callahan

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

 Bloom6132 (talk) 03:23, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support - well cited, and covers the main points of his career. Looks good to me.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:43, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Good to go. Tucker Gladden 👑 18:29, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support good to go (repeat). The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 19:27, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support It is an article. It is fine. Gex4pls (talk) 22:40, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 23:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Hilton Valentine

• Nominated by A lad insane (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Article is updated but frankly quite bad in every other way. Original guitarist for the Animals. -- a lad insane (channel two) 02:12, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment a couple of cites that need fixing, but probably more or less OK after that.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:49, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Weak oppose nothing to say at all between 1966 and 1994 other than reunions? It's possible... And per Amakuru, some citations needed and needed to be fixed. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 19:26, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Neutral As per Rambling Man and Amakuru above. A solid Meh. WikiLove Goat (talk) 13:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
• Weak Oppose One unresolved cn tag, and the body problems mentioned by TRM. Gex4pls (talk) 00:23, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

RD: Grady Gaines

• Nominated by TuckerGladden (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Saxophonist who performed with Little Richard. Article looks good. Tucker Gladden 👑 19:16, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment - the Career section is a little stilted right now, it reads more like a set of bullet points than coherent prose, particularly statements like "Gaines was playing his saxophone at The Whispering Pines" which lacks context. It would be nice to see some indication of his early career, how he got into the business. The discography and awards sections seem to imply that a lot was going on in his career in the late 1980s and early 1990s, but there's very little coverage of that. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 15:48, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose citations needed and a large career gap in the prose between the late 1950s and 1980. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 19:23, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Not so great. Referances needed. WikiLove Goat (talk) 13:47, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Beatriz Barba

• Nominated by MurielMary (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Fully sourced article. First woman in Mexico to graduate in archaeology. MurielMary (talk) 10:48, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

• Weak support there's an unreferenced claim in there but the rest is satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:54, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted. Looks like a citation was provided for the missing claim mentioned above, so all looked good to me.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:31, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Maxine Cheshire

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (January 29). —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:00, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Looks good. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:57, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support good to go. And the c-word. Happy Saturday!! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:02, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 10:38, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: John Chaney

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

 – Muboshgu (talk) 20:02, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support good enough, I guess. Tucker Gladden 👑 21:20, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Actually close to weak support, but it's OK. WikiLove Goat (talk) 23:28, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:08, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 10:38, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Lai Xiaomin

• Nominated by Gex4pls (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Huangdan2060 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Chinese Businessman, executed recently. Two missing sources but other than that article seems of fine quality. Gex4pls (talk) 15:23, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose this might be a WP:BLP1E or WP:CRIME issue I don't see anything in the article to suggest notability beyond embezzlement. --LaserLegs (talk) 16:29, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Notability not relevant for pre-existing articles. This one dates from June 2018. – Sca (talk) 16:55, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

• He's (or, rather, was) a billionaire. Billionaires are self-evidently notable. 212.74.201.246 (talk) 17:08, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Nope, billionaires are not self-evidently notable, and the article does nothing to explain what makes him notable outside running afoul of the CPC. Give me a minute, I'll take care of it. --LaserLegs (talk) 23:12, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

    • When you said "take care of it", I presumed you meant improving the article. Silly me. P-K3 (talk) 23:23, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose As for LaserLegs above. I agree with him. WikiLove Goat (talk) 17:48, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Notability isn't an issue, but the sourcing needs work, particularly in the Personal Life section.-- P-K3 (talk) 22:01, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Once sourcing problem is fixed, support. Tucker Gladden 👑 23:51, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment at AFD now, which may well not be resolved in time for this to make it. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:10, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose I disagree with the AFD nomination (and will write something there soon), but I take real issue with the description of his character in the article. The degree of lavishness and outrageous behaviour attributed to him requires more than a government-approved source (in Personal life) or a Western sternographic relay of the same (in Investigation). That country being what it is, we are never going to read a defense or objection to these points, and after yes-yesterday he'll never get to make them. Many of these points are tangential at best to his actual conviction. These details (spanning 4 years) carry perhaps UNDUE weight compared to the rest of his professional career (34 years). It's an edge case of BLP1E. The article was started in relation to his investigation, which is arguably the 1E. Subject perhaps should have an article, but I don't think it should be featured on the Front Page.130.233.213.199 (talk) 12:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

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