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Season's Greetings

(Sent: 16:19, 18 December 2020 (UTC))

Thanks TigerScientist, the best of the season to you as well. CMD (talk) 17:01, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021!

Hello Chipmunkdavis, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2021. Happy editing, Narutolovehinata5 01:33, 25 December 2020 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Some baklava for you!

Happy editing! Wishing you and your loved ones a great next year and beyond. Zakaria ښه راغلاست (talk) 05:46, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Law for the Protection of Macedonian National Honour

Hello! Your submission of Law for the Protection of Macedonian National Honour at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Protectorate

Dear @Chipmunkdavis: You left the rv comment: Rv, this is a random collection of sources that doesn't have a cohesive point. Unless the sources explain what they mean by protectorate, it's not a helpful designation. The situation doesn't match the article Protectorate. Your rv comment actually does not oppose the reverted text. Your revert comment actually mirrors the text you reverted. The reverted text was The Multiple international scientific papers as well as international news outlets term NKR as a de facto Armenian protectorate.Multiple international scientific papers as well as international news outlets term NKR as a de facto Armenian protectorate. Among the scientific sources using the term protectorate, there is a paper by an Armenian scholar Yulia Antonyan as well as there is a paper by an Aserbaijani scholar Shahla Sultanova. Among the scientific sources using the term protectorate, there is a paper by an Armenian scholar Yulia Antonyan as well as there is a paper by an Aserbaijani scholar Shahla Sultanova. The text, you have reverted does not say that the sources have a cohesive point. It only says that they are multiple and they exist. Unless the sources explain what they mean by protectorate - No, the reverted text does not state that the sources explain the term protectorate. Instead of reverting you could add these sources use but do not explain the term protectorate! The situation doesn't match the article Protectorate. - well, there is a little adjective de facto added to protectorate, which makes it possible to some sources to just call the situation to be a protectorate even without a legal base.Geysirhead (talk) 13:18, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

At least half of these sources aren't even about the topic at hand. If there's no point to the addition, it shouldn't be added. CMD (talk) 13:25, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Sounds like Misplaced Pages:I_just_don't_like_it. The topic in the subsection is literally Political ties with Armenia. Please, tell me, which sources do not match this title! One of the sources says for example The hilly, landlocked stretch of land has been ruled as an Armenian protectorate since an early 1990s war, which left some 30,000 dead, even though it is internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan. Geysirhead (talk) 08:43, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

You're using the Independent as a source of scholarly analysis? CMD (talk) 09:09, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages does neither only cite scientific sources nor is the subsection named Scholarly analysis of political ties with Armenia. For a scholarly analysis (whatever you mean?), which is a common (sub)section in multiple Misplaced Pages articles, a duck test would totally suffice in the case of a de facto protectorate. There is no deficit at scholarly papers calling it this term. Example: President Ilham Aliyev and military officials openly link the arms buildup to the unresolved dispute over the Nagorno-Karabakh region, which nominally belongs to Azerbaijan but has been an Armenian protectorate in all but name since its ethnic Armenian population fought to ... So, please, revert your revert! Geysirhead (talk) 13:46, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

A useful source would be one that explains why a particular term is used. There's no value to the reader in throwing a grab-bag of whatever adjectives and nouns are found. As you may remember this was previously discussed and rejected. Please refer back to that discussion for further reasoning from multiple users on the matter. CMD (talk) 18:00, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Ok. I will not copy the all text passages from the sources into this talk to order to compensate your missing endeavour to read and research them. The reasoning you mention comes from a heated debate of non-neutral Misplaced Pages:Single-purpose accounts. Even if a scholarly source uses a certain term without explanation, it does not mean that it is unjustified. Nobody needs to explain all obvious "adjectives and nouns" in a text. Your actual "why" could be answered by "The public movement, started in 1988, aimed to restore the Armenian protectorate over the autonomous republic of Nagornyi Karabakh, which was made a part of the Soviet Republic of Azerbaijan ..." Because the public movement wanted it that way. Misplaced Pages:Wikipedia_is_not_about_winning Will you just keep asking why?? Enough of that futile dialogue, I am transferring it to the talk page of the subject.--Geysirhead (talk) 11:48, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Wait, not me again. Please, be nice, do you me a favour, and transfer it there yourself. Since 2020 war international media started to call it a Russian protectorate anyway. As you know it is too early to scholarly articles for answering "why?" in that case of a duck test.--Geysirhead (talk) 12:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

That Atlantic Council source calls Armenia a protectorate. I hope that is a useful example as to why simply repeating words found on a certain source is a bad idea for encyclopaedia articles.(As for an OR duck test, per protectorate, the area is not a dependent territory, has no formal suzerainty arrangement, has mixed local autonomy, and did have immigration from Armenia.) CMD (talk) 12:18, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

References

1. Shlapentokh, Dmitri (3 April 2014). "Ukrainian and Belorussian dimensions of Turkmenistan foreign policy: small states in a multipolar world". Defense & Security Analysis. 30 (2): 163–175. doi:10.1080/14751798.2014.894297. ISSN 1475-1798.
2. Lebanidze, Bidzina (2020). "Research design". Russia, EU and the Post-Soviet Democratic Failure. Springer Fachmedien: 55–70. doi:10.1007/978-3-658-26446-8_4.
3. Tol, Tol (2014). "Around the Bloc: Kazakhstan Bans Child Jihadi Video, Russia Cracks Down on Capital Flight". Transitions Online (12/02): 4–7. ISSN 1214-1615.
4. "Several leaders of Armenia's far right detained | Eurasianet". eurasianet.org. Retrieved 29 December 2020.
5. "World getting dragged in to war between Armenia and Azerbaijan". The Independent. 7 October 2020. Retrieved 29 December 2020.
6. "Caucasus shuts doors after coronavirus hits". Afghanistan News. Retrieved 29 December 2020.
7. Antonyan, Yulia (2012). "The Armenian intelligentsia today: discourses of self-identification and self-perception". cyberleninka.ru. Retrieved 29 December 2020.
8. Sultanova, Shahla (2013). "Society: Unfriendly Fire". Transitions Online (01/29). ISSN 1214-1615. Retrieved 29 December 2020.
9. Antonyan, Yulia (2012). "The Armenian intelligentsia today: discourses of self-identification and self-perception". cyberleninka.ru. Retrieved 29 December 2020.
10. Sultanova, Shahla (2013). "Society: Unfriendly Fire". Transitions Online (01/29). ISSN 1214-1615. Retrieved 29 December 2020.

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	Thank you for the copyedit at Wildlife of Canada Moxy 🍁 16:05, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Moxy, happy new year! CMD (talk) 16:34, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Northern masked owl

Hello! Your submission of Northern masked owl at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! HouseOfChange (talk) 19:49, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Copying within Misplaced Pages

Thanks for identifying the source of the material in your edit.

This type of edit does get picked up by Copy Patrol and a good edit summary helps to make sure we don't accidentally revert it. However, for future use, would you note the best practices wording as outlined at Misplaced Pages:Copying_within_Wikipedia? In particular, adding the phrase "see that page's history for attribution" helps ensure that proper attribution is preserved.

I've noticed that this guideline is not very well known, even among editors with tens of thousands of edits, so it isn't surprising that I point this out to some veteran editors, but there are some t's that you need to be crossed.S Philbrick(Talk) 14:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi S Philbrick, I have an awareness of the guideline, but did not know that the specific phraseology is needed. I was unaware of the existence of a Copy Patrol. I have dummy edited to fix this instance, but could you explain why the particular wording crosses a t that my edit summary did not in terms of preserving article history? CMD (talk) 14:29, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: I think we ping now instead of using talkback templates. CMD (talk) 01:46, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

The copy patrol tool identified a 72% match to this site. I recognize the site is a blog and the odds are high that the blog copied from Misplaced Pages as opposed to vice versa, but that's what triggered the review. then I noticed your edit summary which indicated that you picked up some of the text from another article, which of course is permitted but our guideline strongly encourages specific wording. --S Philbrick(Talk) 12:57, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I will keep the specific wording in mind to ease your patrolling. CMD (talk) 13:06, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Dividing line between Europe and Asia

Back in 2011, you and User:Dbachmann discussed borders between Europe and Asia. See User talk:Dbachmann/Archive 39#European countries. The thread cites File:Possible definitions of the boundary between Europe and Asia.png. There is now an open 3RR case — edit warring on whether Turkey is in Europe. I would like to find a linkable consensus somewhere on where Misplaced Pages thinks the boundary of Europe is. Do you perchance know of a discussion? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 18:56, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi EdJohnston, I'm afraid so far as I'm aware there is zero consensus on Misplaced Pages about this topic (the same issue that led to edit warring on List of sovereign states and dependent territories in Europe which you intervened with not long ago). If I could restate your concern, the issue at hand is not what the precise "boundary of Europe" is (the broad contour of the line is not in too much dispute), but the "categorisation" of various countries as "Asian" or "European". Other disputes occasionally flair up over continental or sub-continental categorisation, but Asia/Europe is the big one. Countries are flipped between these all the time on articles and templates. For foreign relations templates the best solution would probably be to find some other form of categorisation (likely tailored per country) relevant to foreign relations, or remove continental categorisation completely in favour of a simple alphabetical list, as continents have only an oblique relevance to the matter. CMD (talk) 01:56, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

At List of sovereign states and dependent territories in Europe, Turkey is included, perhaps on the rationale that it has *some* territory in Europe. So each transcontinental state could wind up on more than one list. That avoids a decision on whether it is primarily in one of the two continents. I suppose such a plan would not work for the diplomacy templates, where a clear all-or-nothing assignment to continents is expected. So an alphabetic solution for the templates might be the best. EdJohnston (talk) 03:18, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

You've summed it up nicely, the longstanding solution at the continent lists was to include boundary information but be broadly inclusive, and countries do appear on multiple of those lists. CMD (talk) 03:42, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Law for the Protection of Macedonian National Honour

On 7 January 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Law for the Protection of Macedonian National Honour, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that the Law for the Protection of Macedonian National Honour, created during World War II to quash opposition to Macedonian nationalism, remained in force until 1991? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Law for the Protection of Macedonian National Honour. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if it received over 400 views per hour. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Human rights

Hoping that a few editors that normally edit the article also jump in Talk:United States#Human rights.--Moxy 🍁 18:32, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

What's the deal?

What's the rationale behind your revert on here? The article seems to have some history with vandalism and socks but not every user or IP is one, Christ. The material that was previously removed (by you as well) seemed good enough, which is why I added some of it back (with some changes on my own) as well as my own edit. That doesn't make me another block evader or a vandal. If one is going to assume every single user who made additions to some article as a suspected vandal or a sock just based on hearsay, the article will never be improved. 209.216.92.228 (talk) 22:12, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

The rationale is in the edit summary, with the material in question being added by a sockpuppet. CMD (talk) 01:30, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Acknowledged. If that's the case, it would be much appreciated if you could restore the material that was added by me (without the other users' material), as I had lumped it together the first time thinking it was useful. 209.216.92.228 (talk) 03:17, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

That was the case from the first edit summary. My engagement in that page has been purely related to the disruption, and the relevant content (in addition to sourcing concerns) is "the same behavior as a banned editor or blocked account in the same context", and as such I am disinclined to examine and restore it further. CMD (talk) 04:32, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Judiciary of the Philippines

On 10 January 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Judiciary of the Philippines, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the judiciary of the Philippines has recognized the legal standing of dolphins? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Judiciary of the Philippines. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Judiciary of the Philippines), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Unlinked names in hooks

Hi, per your comment at WT:DYK, can you propose a rule change so we can get consensus? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:23, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Resemblance?...

Resembles Satt 2 to a degree, don't you think? Needs to make more edits. - LouisAragon (talk) 16:27, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't have that much familiarity with recent cases, but I will keep this in mind when looking at my watchlist. CMD (talk) 17:22, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I just pinged you on Ymblanter's talk page. He's a mutual "friend" of LTA Satt 2 like us. - LouisAragon (talk) 18:05, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Northern masked owl

On 24 January 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Northern masked owl, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that northern masked owl (example pictured) chicks hiss to ask for food, while adults hiss to defend nests? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Northern masked owl. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if it received over 400 views per hour. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Climate change in Kenya

On 28 January 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Climate change in Kenya, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that malaria is expected to become more prevalent due to the impacts of climate change in Kenya? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Climate change in Kenya. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Climate change in Kenya), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Mayotte Marine Natural Park

On 31 January 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mayotte Marine Natural Park, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that both the Mayotte Marine Natural Park and the Glorioso Islands Marine Natural Park entirely cover the exclusive economic zones of the islands within them? You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mayotte Marine Natural Park), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Glorioso Islands Marine Natural Park

On 31 January 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Glorioso Islands Marine Natural Park, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that both the Mayotte Marine Natural Park and the Glorioso Islands Marine Natural Park entirely cover the exclusive economic zones of the islands within them? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Glorioso Islands Marine Natural Park. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Glorioso Islands Marine Natural Park), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Precious

glorious natural parks

Thank you for quality articles around nature conservation such as Dugong, Glorioso Islands Marine Natural Park, Climate change in Kenya, Wildlife of North Macedonia and Wildlife of Malaysia, for welcoming users, fighting vandalism, reviewing and copy-editing, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2524 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:43, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Gerda! What a surprise. I will be sure to work on more. CMD (talk) 14:15, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Cyprus

Hi, so you refused to remove the turkish form the Republic of Cyprus wiki however I explained why it needs to be removed, im not going to argue with you because you dont seem as someone who particularly cares but if youre not going to be productive when it gets to Cyprus, stay away from the page, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonidas Markou (talk • contribs) 11:15, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry Chipmunkdavis

Sincerely apologize to you for the conflict (^^), I hope we work together to build Misplaced Pages, hope you forgive me, I just joined Misplaced Pages, if something is wrong, please tell me, let's be best friends ^^. Luân777 (talk) 04:41, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Luân777, that's not a problem, it's always a learning curve to join Misplaced Pages. CMD (talk) 04:55, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

CMD, thank you so much, my good friend ^^. Luân777 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 05:02, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK Constance Isherwood

Many thanks CMD for advancing Constance Isherwood to prep 6. I was hoping to go for ALT1 instead of the original hook. Please can I request you to use that one to promote to Prep6 rather than the original hook. Hope that is alright. Thanks again for your efforts in prepbuilding. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 16:49, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ktin, absolutely. I took the liberty of adding a couple of commas. Best, CMD (talk) 16:58, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Chipmunkdavis, super! Thanks much. Looks good. Have a nice day. Ktin (talk) 17:10, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Bogart hook

Should that one be where it is (buried in prep 3)? I'm willing to de-picture hooks, but that one's a prominent enough topic I was planning to hold onto it for a lead hook in a later prep. Also, you retained the (pictured) and I think forgot the question mark. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 15:40, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

No problem, I've pulled it. (I think.) CMD (talk) 16:06, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

All good! Will set up a new prep. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 16:19, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Formation removal in the article Ethiopia

I don't know your reason of your removal of historical formation chronology of Ethiopia. Can you explain it? 196.188.241.215 (talk) 21:09, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

The added items were points in history rather than points of establishment for the Ethiopian state. The section is not means to be a chronology, it is meant to be the date that sovereignty was "established", usually when it became independent. Of course with Ethiopia there's not really a date of independence because it's so old (except for 1941), so Formation serves as a substitute word. See also Japan, which is a Featured Article with even fewer fields. CMD (talk) 02:20, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

New message from Narutolovehinata5

Narutolovehinata5 14:08, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

A heads up to the situation with Kanto7

@Chipmunkdavis:, Kanto7 is currently framing me for sockpuppetry of his own IP edits, I am just warning you to stay alert of any actions taken by the user against you since we both argued with them on the talk page on the Insular Government of the Philippine Islands, he is now canvassing other administrators against Misplaced Pages policy to take action against me and might take action against you too. I have started a sockpuppet investigation against the user since he is now using IP addresses to frame me for allegedly vandalizing, you may contribute to the investigation as you may at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/Kanto7, their user contributions recently has since been accusing me of sockpuppetry even though he is the one doing so. Stay alert and best regards, PyroFloe (talk) 15:24, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi PyroFloe, a checkuser will never connect an IP address to a user account for privacy reasons, so if you think those IPs are Kanto7 it needs to be shown behaviourally. Don't worry too much about theoretical action that might be taken against you, if something happens you will be notified somehow, and I very much doubt anything serious will happen. Best, CMD (talk) 15:31, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

I have provided behavioral reasons as well since Kanto7 has really been aggressive towards us recently, so thank you for the advice, PyroFloe (talk) 15:35, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Malaysia January 2021 newsletter

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Image below hatnotes

Why?
(https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Taiwan&type=revision&diff=1006823508&oldid=1006803244) BushelCandle (talk) 02:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

See MOS:IMAGELOCATION.....basically it's a accessibility concern and formate preference. Best to avoid sandwiching the Hat note on small screens. ...and in mobile view the "Main" article links should seen first as there may be many and we don't want the image out of context.--Moxy 🍁 03:22, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick explanation, Moxy; I can't see anything relevant at the particular section that MOS:IMAGELOCATION leads me to but I will accept your opinion that this is an accessibility issue. Sandwiching is almost never an issue with hat notes though unless 2 images appear opposite each other... In this case the image is not out of context and there are not many "Main" article links. BushelCandle (talk) 03:30, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

A bit more info at MOS:ACCIM see #8. Been a rule of thumb ever since mobile version came out.--Moxy 🍁 03:36, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for that link, which seems to settle it:

"Images should be inside the section to which they are related (after the heading and after any links to other articles), and not in the heading itself nor at the end of the previous section. This ensures that screen readers will read, and the mobile site will display, the image (and its textual alternative) in the correct section." (my emphasis added). However, I hope you will concede that the rationale for this advice is not appropriate to what I did since the image and any alt text will still display in the correct section... BushelCandle (talk) 00:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

On mobile all elements are presented in a vertical line, so the wikitext order is important to keep the hatnotes near the title on mobile as opposed to below images where their visually distinct background separates the images from the text. For screen readers I think it is also important that Main article notes are near the headers, for ease of comprehension, but I am less familiar with their workings. CMD (talk) 01:23, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for sparing the time to educate me. I'll try and remember your advice in future... BushelCandle (talk) 08:18, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Requesting article expansion help

Greetings

You seem to have lately edited article Indonesia.

Requesting you to visit articles Islamic advice literature and Draft:Aurats (word) and please do expand them if find yourself interested.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku (talk) 03:25, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Don't tag socks please

Hi Chipmunkdavis. Could you do me a favor and please don't tag socks that I block. If I want to tag them I will do it myself; if I don't tag, it's intentional. Thank you,— Diannaa (talk) 03:30, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Diannaa, the tagging wasn't targeted at you in particular. Thanks for fixing the tag. I will keep your message in mind in the future. CMD (talk) 03:43, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Malaysia February 2021 newsletter

	The Malaysia WikiProject Newsletter
Issue 10 • February 2021 • About the Newsletter
Complete reactivation of WikiProject Malaysia: All complete listing for all of the projects inside Project links Consolidation and reactivation of WikiProject Football/Malaysia task force Full categorization of all pages related to WikiProject Malaysia in Category:WikiProject Malaysia and creation of several new categories for better categorization Full update on To do page for all of red links that can be written into Misplaced Pages articles, in which many of them have their Wikidata pages already Tagging of all talk pages of pages related to WikiProject Malaysia with {{WikiProject Malaysia}} Reactivation of Cartography department, including more listing additions and maps update Reactivation of WikiProject Malaysia Collaboration and its 2 subpages (Discussion and Nominees); and consolidation with Category:Past Malaysian collaborations Reactivation of WikiProject Malaysia Resources page Removal of any retired or banned user from Members, Assessment, Newsroom and Football task force pages Reviving the Manual of Style/Malaysia-related articles page Follow our social media: Facebook: Wikimedia Malaysia (English) Statistics on the WikiProject progress and improvement: Subject namespaces: 18,027, an increase of 476 from last month Articles: 9,456, an increase of 25 from last month
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GAN instructions update

Hey there. Thought I let you know that I updated Misplaced Pages:Good article nominations/Instructions and incorporated your suggestion as well per Misplaced Pages talk:Good article nominations/Archive 24#Suggestion to add additional rules to the instructions. Thanks for leaving comments there! :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 16:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks MrLinkinPark333, my next hope is that one day someone picks up my suggestion to put the GAN toolbox on GARs too! CMD (talk) 00:00, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Chipmunkdavis: You can always suggest it at the GAN talk page. You might have more luck with getting opinions and/or support if you haven't already tried there :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:05, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

MrLinkinPark333 I did! Archived without comment unfortunately, but maybe one day. CMD (talk) 00:06, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

@Chipmunkdavis: Aww that's too bad :/ --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:12, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Sorry for making wrong GAN

I should have read the instructions more carefully. Although it's been some time I've been on wikipedia I wasn't a hyper active user. I thought it would be okay to nominate South Korea as a GA but after seeing the instructions I realized I wasn't a large enough contributor to the article. I thought it was okay because it said anyone can nominate it;;; sorry for causing the inconvenience. Guess I should start improving it. Have a good day! :) Takipoint123 (talk) 07:28, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Takipoint123, while anyone could nominate an article, it's better if the nominator has familiarity with the article in question and so can deal with any reviewer comments. As it is the South Korea article does not yet meet the Misplaced Pages:Good article criteria. Not much inconvenience though, don't worry about that. Best, CMD (talk) 08:40, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response. Thank you for the response. Glad to hear that I didn't cause a big inconvenience. Let's try to build a wikipedia community together! 2001:569:7BB2:6F00:54F9:60F9:F811:EBC2 (talk) 18:46, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Oops. I wasn't logged in! Takipoint123 (talk) 18:50, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Turkey Establishment

Hi Chipmunkdavis, thanks for you edits on the Turkey article. you said 'Turkey didn't really "Form" over a period of time it is quite clearly dated' I was wondering if you could send me some sources regarding that. I want to expand my knowledge and it would be great if you could help me out. thanks! happy editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SherKhaan (talk • contribs) 17:20, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi SherKhaan, the Formation wording in Misplaced Pages infoboxes was to my knowledge developed for states which have a long history that doesn't provide a clear point of statehood that fits within modern understandings of sovereignty. Turkey is an interesting case, but history books tend to treat it as quite a different state to the Ottoman Empire, as reflected by the fact it had what is called a "War of Independence". A state is a specific political entity and not the same as a culture or a people. The difference is mentioned in books, for example , "An investigation of modern Turkey's roots, of its political traditions, socio-economic transformations, and cultural heritage, can reasonably start in the early centuries of the Ottoman Empire. The emergence of Turkey as sovereign nation-state, though, occurred late, when its new boundaries were determined with international recognition in 1923, and the community inhabiting its current space reimagined itself through the Republican state's programmatic effort to inculcate a novel understanding of nationhood." CMD (talk) 02:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Double standarts

I think we have to remove similar things like on Russia's page and others. What do you think? Is there any rule about this? Beshogur (talk) 17:37, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Beshogur, the guidance given by Template:Infobox country is "|sovereignty_type = <!--Brief description of country/territory's status ("Independence ", "Autonomous province ", etc)-->", and "|established_event1 = <!--First key event in history of country/territory's status or formation-->". There is in general a need of a cleanup of infoboxes in this regard, and they aren't well maintained. However, while cleanup is easy for countries that gained independence in the modern era, it is trickier for older entities like Russia. From a glance Russia does need trimming, but I haven't looked into sources to see what they say. For Turkey, sources seem to generally agree it is a modern state established by Attaturk. CMD (talk) 02:38, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

In every aspect Turkey is indeed a successor state of the Ottoman Empire. There are even historians considering Rum Seljuk another predecessor, however I think other ones have to removed as well. Beshogur (talk) 11:06, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

As I noted, best to refer to the sources in such cases. CMD (talk) 11:29, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Species nomenclature.

Please stop reverting my nomenclature changes. My taxonomic updates are consistent with recent derpetological studies. 2600:100F:B06E:BA34:FE0:380B:6BF8:11EB (talk) 04:54, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

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Please stop reverting edit on ‘Culture of Malaysia’ page. Im adding pictures for informations

dear chipmunkdavis, stop reverting photos and edits on ‘Culture of Malaysia’ page.

Karemwikieditor (talk) 14:25, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Karemwikieditor, as I mentioned in the edit summaries, the new pictures are causing WP:Sandwiching and you are removing a WP:Featured picture. Pictures should also not be the main source of information, as the text should be able to stand by itself. CMD (talk) 14:34, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

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Modest flowers

Thank you for what you said on Yoninah's talk, - see also Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2021-03-28/Obituary! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:54, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Gerda Arendt. I have already read the obituary, and found it to be a lovely piece, a beautiful summary of a Wikipedian's achievements. CMD (talk) 17:44, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:53, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Malaysia March 2021 newsletter

	The Malaysia WikiProject Newsletter
Issue 11 • March 2021 • About the Newsletter
Major improvement of Malaysia Portal: Addition of more transclusion articles in General images section from 3 to 6 articles Addition of Selected biography section with 100 selected biography articles Creation of Selected anniversaries (In this month) and added it as a section in the portal page Creation of Selected panorama and added it as a section in the portal page Reactivation of Did you know, Malaysia news and Selected picture portal pages and added them as sections in the main Malaysia portal page Relisting of more than 100 new articles in Selected article section Creation of Malaysia Portal Did You Know pages: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 Creation of Malaysia Portal Selected panorama pages: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 Creation of Malaysia Portal Selected pictures pages: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 Congratulations for Epsom College in Malaysia which was featured in DYK (on 20 March 2021); Bukit Kutu which was promoted to good article (on 30 March 2021); Bukit Larut which was promoted to good article (on 11 March 2021); 1 Utama which was promoted to good article (on 18 March 2021). Statistics on the WikiProject progress and improvement: Subject namespaces: 18,113, an increase of 86 from last month Articles: 9,456, an increase of 86 from last month Good articles: 91, an increase of 3 from last month Unassessed articles: 2,235, a decrease of 46 from last month
WikiProject Malaysia Statistics There are currently about 18,113 subject namespaces attributed to the project, including 9,542 articles. There are 19 featured articles, 91 good articles, 4,788 stub articles and 2,235 unassessed articles. The project currently has 26 active members.
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Malay indonesia

do you want to cover the history of Malay in Indonesia, the Malay tribe is native to Indonesia K mm aoak (talk) 04:49, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

We should cover such things, so if you wp:reliable sources on the matter that would be welcome. CMD (talk) 06:21, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Request in Philippines article expansion.

Hello, the Philippines page (under Culture section) is missing information about the introduction of comedia (komedya), zarzuela, and vaudeville (bodabil) in the country. As I am not very adept at constructing sentences from scratch, may I respectfully request you to kindly expand the article to include these information? I have found the following sources that may be of help:

• https://books.google.com.ph/books?id=H1iFCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA372
• https://books.google.com.ph/books?id=qLQOd-PFxe4C&pg=PA69
• https://books.google.com.ph/books?id=Bl0OAAAAYAAJ

Thank you, and regards. -Sanglahi86 (talk) 09:57, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Sure, I will see what I can do from the first two sources. The Culture section needs quite a bit more attention. CMD (talk) 10:19, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Singapore

I cited a source. Singapore was kicked out of Malaysia, through action in the Malaysian government. So it was against their will. Do you own the article? I thought people didn't own articles on Misplaced Pages! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 747pilot (talk • contribs) 02:59, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

The source did not match your claim in the text. Further, as mentioned the article already covers that information, so it is redundant. CMD (talk) 03:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy notice

Hello Chipmunkdavis. I'm just letting you know that an Arbitration Case has been filed and you have been listed as a party. — Ched (talk) 08:32, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Edit warring

Your recent editing history at Radio Free Asia shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.— Preceding unsigned comment added by CPCEnjoyer (talk • contribs) 09:38, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

April 2021

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Misplaced Pages without adequate explanation, as you did at Propaganda in the United States, you may be blocked from editing. BenkovacZrinjski (talk) 13:51, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Misplaced Pages, as you did at Chad. Pinchme123 (talk) 05:26, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

China-Taiwan articles case request declined

The arbitrators have voted to decline the case request you were a party to, China-Taiwan articles, for reasons including the dispute being a content dispute and because previous conduct dispute resolution had not been attempted. You can view the declined case request in this permalink. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz 08:25, 14 April 2021 (UTC)