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:: I thought it might be something like that. If you think the investigation is "one sided" then what we need are reliable sources saying that. Also any discussion along the lines of "who first caused the problem" (chain of causality) is going to go nowhere, how far back are you willing to go? 1917? Strictly in ICC terms, they cannot really go back to before they were set up, it is possible in some circumstances for the court to investigate things that took place before 13 June 2014 (continuing events, for example) and in any case, the ICC decides which crimes to prosecute, if any. A main idea of the ICC is to provide justice where none has been dealt. So to take the case of the teenagers, they were already subjected to trial and judgement so what would be the point in the ICC doing it again? Whereas in the case of the rockets, Gaza events, settlement enterprise, no such justice has been seen. As for the rockets, it is straightforwardly clear that the court has juridiction, idk where you have got the idea that they are excluded and really you should not include controversial statements like that unsourced.] (]) 13:50, 17 March 2021 (UTC) :: I thought it might be something like that. If you think the investigation is "one sided" then what we need are reliable sources saying that. Also any discussion along the lines of "who first caused the problem" (chain of causality) is going to go nowhere, how far back are you willing to go? 1917? Strictly in ICC terms, they cannot really go back to before they were set up, it is possible in some circumstances for the court to investigate things that took place before 13 June 2014 (continuing events, for example) and in any case, the ICC decides which crimes to prosecute, if any. A main idea of the ICC is to provide justice where none has been dealt. So to take the case of the teenagers, they were already subjected to trial and judgement so what would be the point in the ICC doing it again? Whereas in the case of the rockets, Gaza events, settlement enterprise, no such justice has been seen. As for the rockets, it is straightforwardly clear that the court has juridiction, idk where you have got the idea that they are excluded and really you should not include controversial statements like that unsourced.] (]) 13:50, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

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ICC Palestine

Why would you add material without any source and then mark it as citation needed?Diff. I haven't looked too hard but I am pretty sure that multiple sources contradict this claim? I also don't understand why you are focused on things that are outside the temporal jurisdiction of the ICC, the ICC can't do anything about those so why is it relevant? Selfstudier (talk) 12:09, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

I added the points as to why the matters mentioned are outside the ICC’s jurisdiction to indicate, even before it starts, how one-sided the investigation will of necessity be. I was also going to add, to the effect, “and furthermore, the ICC investigation would look at any retaliation and counter-measure taken by Israel within the Gaza Strip, without regard to the actions by the Palestinians that led to them.” I’m sure these points are important to include and I’m sure I’m not original, though offhand I haven’t had the time to find the source. Also, these matters go to the court’s jurisdiction, and its limitations. Enthusiast01 (talk) 13:26, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
I thought it might be something like that. If you think the investigation is "one sided" then what we need are reliable sources saying that. Also any discussion along the lines of "who first caused the problem" (chain of causality) is going to go nowhere, how far back are you willing to go? 1917? Strictly in ICC terms, they cannot really go back to before they were set up, it is possible in some circumstances for the court to investigate things that took place before 13 June 2014 (continuing events, for example) and in any case, the ICC decides which crimes to prosecute, if any. A main idea of the ICC is to provide justice where none has been dealt. So to take the case of the teenagers, they were already subjected to trial and judgement so what would be the point in the ICC doing it again? Whereas in the case of the rockets, Gaza events, settlement enterprise, no such justice has been seen. As for the rockets, it is straightforwardly clear that the court has juridiction, idk where you have got the idea that they are excluded and really you should not include controversial statements like that unsourced.Selfstudier (talk) 13:50, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

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