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Nemrut vs Nemrout

As far as I know, proper transliteration of the name to English is Nemrout, because both Armenian "ու" and Turkish "u" sounds must be written "ou" in English in order to be pronounced right. Because Nemrut could be pronounced like which is wrong. That's why Armenian names Անուշ or Լուսինե translated to English like Anoush and Lousine. Sincerely, --Norayr (talk) 09:04, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Why Doesn't the Article Mention Anything About Armenia

After doing research on Mount Nemrut from reliable sources, I came to the conclusion that Mount Nemrut was built by an Orontid king of Armenian descent who embraced Greek culture. That does not make Mount Nemrut Greek, and I am starting to get tired of Greeks hijacking the history of other civilizations. So back to the topic, It would be nice if somebody rewrote this article, and make it Armenian. If you want to have any evidence or anything to support the claim that Mount Nemrut is Armenian, buy a copy of the book Armenia: Cradle of Civilization, by David Marshall Lang, an English professor thats done extensive research on this topic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.81.10.66 (talk) 21:30, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Exactly!! I find it quite disturbing that in the whole article there is no mentioning of even ONE word of "Armenia", while there is mention of Macedonia . Ironically enough if you click on the name Antiochus I Theos of Commagene (the builder of the stone Gods) you'll find out he was a descendant of the Armenian Dynasty and was actually half Armenian (as it is often with Royalties they are mixed blood). But the fact that he is of the Armenian dynasty suggests his people were Armenian, so the Gods created in stone would represent their peoples believes!!! It's a shame this political propaganda has blinded people from historical truth. Armenian gods described without mentioning of Armenia!!! A SHAME !!!

monoliths

were these colossal statues originaly carved out of single stones? or were they made out of multiple stones?

thanks Zacherystaylor (talk) 04:21, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Tower of Babel, Nimrod, Nemrud-Nemrut

This article should incorporate a discussion of King Nimrod, and the possiblity of an etymological connection between Nimrod and Nemrut. cs (talk) 05:18, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

East-West-Conflict and Date

According to the german Version of this article, the Lionhoroscope is situated on the eastern terrace and it shows the date 14 July 109 BC, exactly 19:35 o'clock and this should be the date of the coronation of Mithridates I Callinicus - I'm now wondering which date this lion really shows -- Hartmann Schedel (talk) 23:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

What was the ancient name of it?

(Was it "Ankara"???) Böri (talk) 09:53, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Who did the beheading?

There is no mention of evidence pointing to those responsible for the vandalism of the figures (including the "beheading"), or at least a theory of who did it and when. If there is such a theory, can it be inserted? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isoruku (talk • contribs) 23:31, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

I've never seen a clear theory documented, but might point out that the statues are not made out of one solid piece of rock, but rather are built out of half a dozen roughly cut stones each. The heads are one single piece, and of course had been sitting on top of the rest. The heads might have been brought down by human vandalism, but any earthquake or maybe even the influence of snow and freezing water could possible have done the job.Ilyacadiz (talk) 20:36, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Name

I see that my edit, adding the "Name" section, has been reverted. It's not that I care too much, but I guess I might have made some mistake and would be happy to learn what it was. User Bgwhite says: "Do not use illegal copies of Copright material as reference. Also, this is not an HTML page, use wikicode." I'm sorry if I mixed up codes. As for the copyright question, I can't really understand that: the only sentence I copied literally is this: "every natural and artistic work that exceeded normal sizes were attributed to him", clearly marked as a quote. The source as such is hardly illegal, being a scholarly contribution to an UNESCO newsletter. What exactly is the copyright violation? Thanks for any clarification. (Below the text I inserted and which was reverted). Ilyacadiz (talk) 22:05, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

It is not known why the mountain is called Nemrut and what is the connection, if any, with king Nimrod. There is no evidence that the name goes back to the Commagene kingdom . According to Turkish scholars, the figure of Nimrod as an evil king fond of idolatry is widespread in Islamic mythology, so "every natural and artistic work that exceeded normal sizes were attributed to him" and there are many other places in Anatolia and Syria named after Nimrod. The word "nemrut" has come to mean simply "grim, cruel" in Turkish.

Revert

@LouisAragon: Please actually read the sources before you revert, maybe take a look at WP:ONLYREVERT, if you have a concern about a well sourced good faith edit, it’s best to take it to the talk page before being quick to revert, that is not productive and can cause edit wars. The source is clear that it is talking about Armenian religous traditions: “The most spectacular arising from the Anatolian-Armenian religious milieu appear in the late hellenistic Commagene….” and “The Pantheon shows a specifically middle Iranian footprint, with the Iranian names of the gods corresponding most closely to the Parthian-Armenian pantheon” it also mentions the Armenian cult of Vahagn which is specifically Armenian. It’s also well established that the statues followed Greco-Iranian architectural traditions so I don’t know where you got that he was talking about architectural traditions when he literally said “in order to reinvigorate his ancestral religion.” TagaworShah (talk) 17:59, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

@HistoryofIran: How about checking the talk page before reverting, you too could benefit from checking out WP:ONLYREVERT. You are clearly mistaken, how about you actually read the source and the quotes provided above. Canepa was unambiguous about the Pantheon including Armenian religious traditions, so how about instead of using your own assumptions you actually read the source, restore my edit per WP:RMV (it’s wikipedia policy), stop reverting disruptively, and actually discuss on the talk page, it exits for a reason.TagaworShah (talk) 19:26, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

1. <a href="http://archweb.metu.edu.tr/uploads/files/NSG%20yayinlar/122%20Chapter%20in%20a%20Book%20Nat/2013%20Mount%20Nemrut%20Tumulus_UNESCO%20TMK_Chapter%20in%20BOOK%20Nat_NSG.pdf> Neriman Şahın Güçhan, Nemrut Dağ, Unesco World Heritage in Turkey</a>
2. Osman Hamdi, “Le Tumulus de Nemroud Dagh”, 1987. Quoted in <a href="http://archweb.metu.edu.tr/uploads/files/NSG%20yayinlar/122%20Chapter%20in%20a%20Book%20Nat/2013%20Mount%20Nemrut%20Tumulus_UNESCO%20TMK_Chapter%20in%20BOOK%20Nat_NSG.pdf> Neriman Şahın Güçhan, Nemrut Dağ, Unesco World Heritage in Turkey</a>

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