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Martial Brahmins

There Are Many Martial Clans In Brahmins Like Mohyals,Tyagis Etc. They Were Kings. So These Martial Type Brahmin Community Should Also Be Added. Singha90 (talk) 16:56, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Definition in the lede

@Rasnaboy: want to discuss about your revision.Worldmonk (talk) 06:52, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi User:Worldmonk. Greetings. I guess you're talking about the latest revision wherein I reverted your recent edit on this page. I did it because the lede should simply summarize what has been discussed in the article. I agree with your claim that the term Brahmin fundamentally refers to a person who has attained enlightenment, but the topic of the article is not that. Here, it refers to the name of the sect, which is being discussed in the rest of the article. If you can provide a source for your claim, maybe we can add it in the etymology section. This is similar to how the term vegetarianism is being treated in the article on vegetarianism; although the term originally refers to "eating anything that is derived from plants (and only plants)" (i.e., plant-based or vegan), the mainstream meaning today has morphed to include milk, honey, leather, silk, etc. This is what has to go in the article's lede. Hope this makes sense. Please feel free to discuss what you think. Thank you. Rasnaboy (talk) 07:34, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Flow

@Jonathansammy: Your claim that my reordering the flow of the lede introduces POV is bizarre - the original version of the article talks about Brahmins as a class, jumps into discussing their occupations, and then returns to an issue of class (i.e. prestige). I cannot see what quarrel one could reasonably have with the lede identifying Brahmins as a class (and commenting on the ritual (and consequently social) prestige that attaches, which is one of the most salient characteristics of the class), before proceeding to discuss occupations. You've also reverted my removal of a primary source; we should not be citing the Manusmrti directly.

Hölderlin2019 (talk) 15:34, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@Hölderlin2019:, My objection is to the statement that "in theory they are the most respected". You cite Doniger, but I couldn't find anything in her book which said brahmins were the most respected. Brahmins do have the highest ritual status but does that translate in to "the most respected"? No, I wouldn't use Manusmrti as a source either.Let me check whether I remove a source that i shouldn't have. I hope this clarifies the matter.Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 15:44, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Sourced Content removal

Why are you removing sourced content Ekdalin? like this .other editors are invited to comment here also.

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