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* Is there a "Cliff Notes to the A-A conflict" by someone not involved for us admins that don't edit in the topic area? I'm inclined to tban Granmaster but I'm very aware that I know little of the whole conflict and would prefer at least having some clue before going full-on tban... ] (]) 19:49, 29 January 2022 (UTC) | * Is there a "Cliff Notes to the A-A conflict" by someone not involved for us admins that don't edit in the topic area? I'm inclined to tban Granmaster but I'm very aware that I know little of the whole conflict and would prefer at least having some clue before going full-on tban... ] (]) 19:49, 29 January 2022 (UTC) | ||
** Having just spent a depressing amount of time reading pages that display bad behavior from editors, I can get behind a tban. When a topic area is contentious, the way to deal with it is to step up your editing and behave better, not sink down into the mud further. ] (]) 20:59, 29 January 2022 (UTC) | ** Having just spent a depressing amount of time reading pages that display bad behavior from editors, I can get behind a tban. When a topic area is contentious, the way to deal with it is to step up your editing and behave better, not sink down into the mud further. ] (]) 20:59, 29 January 2022 (UTC) | ||
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Grandmaster
Grandmaster is indefinitely topic banned from AA2 signed, Rosguill 15:47, 18 February 2022 (UTC) |
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This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Request concerning Grandmaster
Grandmaster has veteran experience of POV-pushing with extensive history of blocks in Armenia-Azerbaijan topic in two Wikipedias. The provided diffs are just a few recent examples to show he has not changed but learned how to avoid bans by WP:CPUSH-ing as shown in diffs above. I think he is there not as much as to build encyclopedia, but to advance official Azerbaijan' positions on Misplaced Pages, in a nationalist mood, prohibited by WP:ADVOCACY. He is apparently unable contribute neutrally in topics he has ethnic conflict of interest with, hence I believe a topic ban from AA area, broadly construed (including Turkey and Turkic world), for at least 1 year, is required to help to sober him up, while allowing him to edit in topics he does not have conflict of interest with. I was advised by admins Rosguill and Robert McClenon to take the case from ANI to AE, and so I did. UPDATE 25.01.2022 Grandmaster worryingly changed his replies here
When this violation of talk page guidelines was noted by an opponent, he resented till another user notes the violation Worryingly, Grandmaster now glorifies Epressa.am as a reliable example of Armenian media, to prove a point, despite what he refers to is not even an article by a journalist but a text of an unknown person' Facebook rave with an attention seeking FRINGE title “Did we (Armenians) drop hydrogen bomb on Agdam and Zangilan?”. Not sure about 2014 award, but that website is apparently hacked and vandalised, everyone can see the sheer random nonsense posted there: 1 2. --Armatura (talk) 20:38, 25 January 2022 (UTC) UPDATE 29.01.22 Grandmaster, when the source is so obviously poor, it does not merit a discussion at WP:RS/P. WP:QUESTIONABLE sources are unsuitable for citing contentious claims (in article or talk page - does not matter) and minimal WP:COMPETENCE is required to see the obvious. The fact that you do not / choose not to see it after being on Misplaced Pages over a decade, your continued defence of that source even here, against all the evidence, is a sign of incompetence or inability to remain neutral in editing/discussing I am afraid. And what you call a "witch hunt" was a transfer of ANI discussion to AE, as advised by admins, that's all. --Armatura (talk) 19:34, 29 January 2022 (UTC) UPDATE 02.02.2022 Many thanks for time and effort spent on evaluating this case, Rosguill and Ealdgyth. Are you happy to close it per your concensus? Best wishes --Armatura (talk) 17:13, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Notified on talk page by standart alert. Discussion concerning GrandmasterStatements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Statement by GrandmasterThis is already 4th report filed on me by Armatura. Such persistence in filing frivolous reports one after another indicates that this user is engaged in WP:Witchhunt. Previously Armatura joined now banned user Steverci to accuse me of various things, but that report was dismissed as retaliatory. Then he filed a 3RR report on me , which was dismissed without action, and he did it when I reported a banned IP user, so it appears to be another retaliatory report. After that he filed a report on WP:ANI, asking to ban me: So this is the report # 4, which for the most part repeats the report at WP:ANI. Regarding Agdam, one can see that Armatura started the latest discussion by bringing up a BBC report that has no relevance to the city of Agdam, to support his claim that the term "Hiroshima of Caucasus" is used as propaganda by Azerbaijan (BBC says nothing like that, btw). But as was demonstrated by myself and other users, the term Hiroshima of Caucasus is used not just by Azerbaijan, but it was coined by British journalist and political analyst Thomas de Waal, and is used by mainstream international media such as Euronews, France24, AP, The independent, and even Armenian reporter for IWPR. I quoted epress.am just to show that the analogy with devastation by nuclear weapons is used by Armenian media too. I did not propose to include it into the article. In fact, Armatura's claiming that the term Hiroshima of Caucasus is propaganda after it was demonstrated that it originated outside of Azerbaijan and is used by media all over the world is tendentious editing in itself. Then he accuses me of removing claims of an village head about late president of Azerbaijan allegedly concealing his place of birth for political reasons, but how qualified is a villager to make judgements about the motives of the Soviet leadership? Even if it is reported by a reliable source, it does not make the claims of a man in the street reliable or notable. But I only removed that line once, and when Armatura restored it, I left it at that. There was no edit war, or anything of the kind. I just tried to attract attention to questionability of that claim, per WP:BRD. Regarding my blocks in en:wiki, as you can see, they are from 15 years ago, and incident at Russian wiki is from 12 years ago, and has nothing to do with en:wiki. Per WP:Boomerang, I think the admins need to look at Armatura's own activity. Armatura repeatedly violated WP:AGF and WP:Civil, making personal attacks and incivil comments every time I try to have a polite discussion with him. For example, in his report at WP:ANI, he accuses me of having a "narrow vision in which Armenians are "the bad guys"", which clearly is a bad faith assumption. In this report here, he accuses me of "advancing official Azerbaijan' positions on Misplaced Pages, in a nationalist mood", with no credible evidence whatsoever, which is again not in line with WP:AGF. How civil is it to write to another editor: do not test the patience of other editors with nonsense, it may be viewed as trolling? Here he told me: Because you simply refuse to understand when I explain anything, in a nihilistic fashion Bad faith assumption like this, when he accused me of not reacting to another user's erroneous closure of RFC, even though Armatura was explained by a Misplaced Pages admin that he cannot hold against someone not doing something: Another bad faith assumption at the same page: Here he demands from me "repentance", which he would "perhaps accept"? As was noted by an uninvolved user at WP:ANI, Armatura WP:BLUDGEONs the discussion by arguing with my every vote and every comment, . You may wish to check Talk:2020 Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire agreement and Talk:Agdam#RfC_for_"Hiroshima_of_Caucasus" to get the full picture of my interactions with this user. Previously, Armatura was placed on interaction ban with another user: . In sum, Armatura has difficulties with keeping it cool when engaging in discussions with other editors, which is why admins may wish to see if editing such a contentious topic as Armenia-Azerbaijan relations is something that he should be allowed to do. His behavior creates nervous and unhealthy atmosphere. Rosguill, please note that I only cited epress.am once, at the talk page of Agdam. I made no further reference to that source. Every other mention was in response to Armatura, who brought it up again at his talk page and ANI. Also, the article was not nationalist, quite the contrary, it was critical of those people who made racist comments about Azerbaijani people and justified destruction of Azerbaijani cities. Armatura takes words out of context, but context is important. The author does not endorse racist attitudes, but protests them. Also, Misplaced Pages has no censorship, and profanity is not forbidden. Regarding epress.am, it is certainly not a nationalist publication. Some information about them could be found here And here is an interview with its chief editor, who says that his publication is against nationalism, militarism, homophobia and violence. It won Free Media Awards in 2014. If you check English Misplaced Pages, it is used a lot in Armenia related articles. Grandmaster 21:53, 25 January 2022 (UTC) Once again, epress was not proposed to be used as a reference in the article. It was only linked once at the talk page in the discussion, as an example of a term usage, and that news-site is used as a reference in dozens of articles about Armenia in Misplaced Pages. If it is not acceptable, the issue should be taken to WP:RSN, to designate it as deprecated, and stop its usage in Misplaced Pages. I don't think that a simple mention at talk is such a big issue as to demand someone to be banned or sanctioned. I changed some of my comments here to save space, as I was advised I need to keep it short. Grandmaster 21:53, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
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Grandmaster 17:06, 24 January 2022 (UTC) ZaniGiovanni, you forgot to mention who brought up that source time after time at various places. Certainly not me. Grandmaster 14:58, 27 January 2022 (UTC) ZaniGiovanni, it was actually me who suggested to stop arguing about that source right there, at talk of Agdam: But Armatura kept taking it to various boards, and brought it up even at his own talk page, when I tried to discuss with him a technical issue. Grandmaster 16:49, 27 January 2022 (UTC) Admins may wish to look into ZaniGiovanni's own reverting activity today. He removed Didier Billion: , claiming that he was a genocide denier, even though the article has nothing to do with genocide, and Billion was interviewed by France24, major French news outlet. Normally, if you question general reliability of a source, WP:RSN is where you discuss it, and reach consensus with the community. Then he removed RFE/RL, which is a reliable source, claiming that he sees from photos that the mosques' roof is there: , when it clearly is not. If you compare photos #4 and #5 in RFE article, it is obvious that the metal hip roof is gone, plus he engages in WP:OR. Clearly POV edits. Grandmaster 16:14, 29 January 2022 (UTC) ZaniGiovanni, it is clear from this picture taken before occupation that the triangular shaped metal roof is gone. Plus, you cannot engage in WP:OR and decide, what was and what was not removed. RFE/RL is a reliable source, and cannot be removed just because you disagree with it. Grandmaster 16:36, 29 January 2022 (UTC) Rosguill, topic banning an editor for just posting a link to a talk page discussion is too harsh. And I don't think I held up author's "Armenian ethnicity as somehow equivalent to speaking for Armenians or Armenian sources". I just responded to the claim that the source was "ultra-nationalist", and tried to demonstrate that it was not. I edited Misplaced Pages for many years, and made tens of thousands of useful contributions, created many new articles. I don't think it is a proportional punishment for whatever I did wrong. Grandmaster 19:52, 29 January 2022 (UTC) Rosguill, I think you do not understand why that argument was made. Armatura argued that the term "Hiroshima of Caucasus" was used only by Azerbaijani propaganda. But it was demonstrated by many users that it is used by mainstream Western media as well (please see comments at RFC there). I also pointed out that it was used by an Armenian reporter from IWPR, who cannot be engaged in pro-Azerbaijani propaganda. That is the only reason why the nationality of the reporters was mentioned, to demonstrate that they could not be a part of Azerbaijan's propaganda. I also pointed out nationalities of other sources, to show that the term originated and was used beyond Azerbaijan. Grandmaster 20:08, 29 January 2022 (UTC) Rosguill, it is not about ethnic identity, but rather the fact that the source originates outside of Azerbaijan. I also mentioned nationality of British journalist Thomas de Waal, for example. But I did it just to show that the term used by sources outside of Azerbaijan. Grandmaster 20:17, 29 January 2022 (UTC) Rosguill, regarding epress, it was never used as a reference in the article, not it was proposed to be used. I only linked it once at the talk page discussion. I understand it could be a problem when unreliable pieces are used as references, but it was never my intention. I take the point that it is not a good quality source, and I will never make any mention of such sources anywhere. But a person can a make a mistake occasionally, I think. We are all human, after all. I don't think it is a adequate punishment to ban a log time editor with thousands of contributions for just one link posted at talk page. Grandmaster 20:28, 29 January 2022 (UTC) ZaniGiovanni, once again, I did not defend epress, I only demonstrated here that it is not a nationalist source, as it was claimed. Grandmaster 20:39, 29 January 2022 (UTC) Statement by Dennis Brown(clerking only, no comments on the merits)
Statement by ZaniGiovanniSince the ANI discussion, I was thinking wheter the suggested AE case would be opened or not, as there are other diffs of Grandmaster's POV pushing that weren't discussed. I believe as an involved party with the previous case, I should add my input. Some recent edits by Grandmaster that I believe weren't posted in either of noticeboards:
I'm not an admin, I don't know what appropriate measures are against users in such cases. As someone involved in the ANI discussion, I wanted to share the problematic edits of Grandmaster I've noticed recently. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 02:24, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
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Ypatch
There are no saints here. Closing without action. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 23:35, 12 February 2022 (UTC) |
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This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Request concerning Ypatch
Ypatch ought to create consensus for removing the old content, but instead of that, he is railroading other users by beginning a wrong RFC and I told him this. The user has reverted other users three times while he only commented once in talk about the dispute. AFAIK, because the content has been there since 2019 and the user adding the content had no problems at that time, Ypatch needed to make consensus before removing the section. Instead of that, he says inserting the content needs consensus. He has opened a RFC for insertion of the content while the RFC ought to be for removal of the content. Mr @Vanamonde93:: But the first line Misplaced Pages:Silence and consensus reads that "Consensus can be presumed to exist until disagreement becomes evident (typically through reverting or editing)." That content was there for 2 and a half year. More than one month later after Kazemita entered the content, Stefka (now banned) only changed the title of the section. So the consensus existed. Ali Ahwazi (talk) 11:45, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
I informed/notified the mentioned user Here
Discussion concerning YpatchStatements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Statement by YpatchI really don't want to get involved in this, but even those in favor of having this content in the article are saying the content needs improvements. Ypatch (talk) 09:10, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
Statement by Vice regentVanamonde93, I agree that consensus is achieved through discussion, but I don't believe Ypatch's behavior has been constructive.
Other examples of Ypatch's recent unconstructive engagement:
Ypatch's behavior is demoralizing. I spend hours in crafting a thoughtful response (researching, wordsmithing proposals etc), only to be ignored, reverted and stonewalled.VR talk 17:35, 5 February 2022 (UTC) Statement by AquillionIt is true that Ypatch shouldn't edit-war, but participation in a single brief edit war that hasn't breached the 3RR isn't sufficient to bring to WP:AE, especially when the filer also participated. It is also true that the text is longstanding; it was created (shortly) before the editor's other account was banned, so WP:BANREVERT doesn't apply, and we don't automatically revert someone's contributions just because they were later banned. But the article is extremely low-traffic, so even though the text has been there for a year it's also reasonable to conclude that it doesn't have a strong consensus behind it - at least not to the point of rushing to AE to defend that extremely low level of implicit consensus. Also, it is absolutely not the case that text is required to be left untouched while discussions or an RFC is ongoing, so Ypatch's reverts are at least not a violation of the specific RFC moderation sanction mentioned. But honestly everyone would benefit from worrying less about conduct at this stage and focusing more on content and the underlying dispute. --Aquillion (talk) 17:54, 5 February 2022 (UTC) Statement by Bahar1397VR and AA edit warred too, but it seems that if one doesn't agree with VR's version proposals then to him that's something that should be brought to AE. That seems like "civil battleground mentality", which apparently he has been warned to stop doing already. Bahar1397 (talk) 19:35, 6 February 2022 (UTC) Statement by (username)Result concerning Ypatch
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Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Iskandar323
Duration of topic ban is hereby reduced to "time served". Dennis Brown - 2¢ 13:27, 13 February 2022 (UTC) |
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Diff notifying the imposing administrator. (NB: They are now inactive Statement by Iskandar323I would like the length of my topic ban to be modified on the basis that the enforcement process was interfered with by Icewhiz socks. While I understand and accept my fault in the matter, I think the length of my TBAN is worth reconsidering in light of the latest round of Icewhiz SPI revelations (those involving Eostrix), which subsequently saw the account that launched the enforcement appeal, 11Fox11, and the two supporting accounts, Geshem Bracha and Free1Soul, blocked as Icewhiz socks. Upon my appeal to Callanecc, the administrator who imposed the TBAN, they agreed that based on these SPI revelations there may be scope for a modification of the ban's length. In their last active edit on Misplaced Pages, Callanecc noted their willingness to reconsider the length of the ban
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207.47.175.199
Closing with no action. At the same, let me warn 207.47.175.199 informally that bending rules can lead to getting blocked if there is a pattern of doing so. Having a minority (or majority) opinion nor being an IP editor grants no special privilege or immunity. You might want to back off just a bit, as you are uncomfortably close to that cliff. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 19:06, 11 February 2022 (UTC) |
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Mzajac
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- Ymblanter (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 19:23, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Mzajac (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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- 8 February 2022 Quote: "After the main article was renamed Kyiv, a reactionary group of editors voted to use the spelling “Kiev,” “in historical articles.” " (to be fair, after protests they crossed out the word "reactionary".
- 11 February Quote: Ymblanter, I don’t think you have the moral authority to threaten me publicly... (as a response to a suggestion that AE might be in order).
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- Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive277#Mzajac Topic ban from everything related to Kiev/Kyiv for a year
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- previously topic-banned.
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- Previously blocked as a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict, see the block log linked to above.
- Previously given a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict on Date by Username (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA).
- Alerted about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, see the system log linked to above.
- Gave an alert about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on Date
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- Mzajac was topic-banned from everything related to Kiev/Kyiv in December 2020 after the AE discussion, where I demonstrated that they lack an ability to edit the topic area productively and were not capable of accepting the community consensus that the city in the historical context must be referred to as Kiev and not as Kiev. They probably were the only topic-banned administrator during this period, though I am not 100% sure. In December 2021, the topic ban expired, and not later than in February 2022 they resumed the same behavior - pushing their POV that the city must be referred to as Kiev in all contexts, replying to all opposition until people stop responding, and ignoring all arguments that do not support their views. I recommend to read Talk:Kievan Rus'#Kyivan or Kievan Rus' and Talk:History of Kyiv#Consistent spelling of the title term in the text, these two discussions are not long and give a good impression of their style. In addition, in the second discussion it looks like that they do not think they have done anything wrong but they apparently believe I have some kind a personal vendetta against them and consider a suggestion I may ask for AE sanctions about them as "public threats". I know that nobody wants to deal with Eastern European topics, and certainly nobody wants to deal with an admin, but I see now the same pattern which in 2020 made this already toxic area completely unbearable, and I think some action is needed.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:23, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- This is ok, this can be closed and then we can wait this one seriously escalates. I personally try to avoid these discussions anyway, I took all these pages off my watchlist a long time ago.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:21, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- WP:AN and WP:ANI are absolutely hopeless. I will not even consider bringing the matter there. If repeated behavior of a user which was already sanctioned for this very behavior is not actionable here then it is not actionable at all.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:05, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- This is ok, this can be closed and then we can wait this one seriously escalates. I personally try to avoid these discussions anyway, I took all these pages off my watchlist a long time ago.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:21, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
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Discussion concerning Mzajac
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Statement by Mzajac
Re: User:Paul Siebert, composing a reply to this enforcement request will take more of my time and attention than individual article edits in spare moments. I hope you can appreciated that this is serious and not something I can just rattle off. —Michael Z. 04:43, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Statement by Paul Siebert
First, to save space, I just provide a link to this my post . I don't think calling other users "reactionary" should be considered a serious violation. However, I propose to take a look at that from different perspective.
- First, that statement was made not by an average user, but by an admin.
- Second, this admin demonstrates poor familiarity with our policy: the articles about historical topics can (and usually should) use historical names, especially when they are more frequently found in a special literature.
- Third, this admin seems to be active: he made several edits , , , but he haven't bothered to respond on this page. Does it means this user believes admins are "more equal" than other users?
In connection to that, I am wondering how can all of that be consistent with admin's status?--Paul Siebert (talk) 04:23, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Michael, if you have no time to respond, it seems polite to leave at least a short message where you explain when exactly you are going to post a full response.
- In general, I don't find any serious problems with your behaviour as a user: according to my (internal) classification, your behaviour meets criteria of a relatively moderate POV-pusher, which is hardly sanctionable per DS (majority of us are, to some degree, POV-pushers). However, the problem is that you are an admin, and your behaviour is expected to meet higher standards. Being an admin, you are not supposed to demonstrate partisan mentality (divide users on "reactionary" and "others" based on their opinion on some quite innocent subject), demonstrate poor knowledge of our policy (historical names convention), and show respect to your peers (respond promptly at AE).
- Again, I see not much problem with you as a user (in that sense, this request may be seen as frivolous), but I am not sure your behaviour is consistent with your admin's status. Paul Siebert (talk) 18:56, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
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Result concerning Mzajac
- This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.
- "Reactionary" was not a good choice of words, a bit of aspersion but it was struck as soon as somone complained. Some heat is expected in any debate, but I didn't see anything worse than this single word. Ymblanter, you are obviously on the other side of the table from Mzajac on several points, and I'm wondering if that is clouding your judgement. This is based on reading just the material you have linked. I'm not sure about his claim of you using personal attacks against him previously, then at ANI (I remember an ANI discussion, perhaps Mzajac can link it). As it stands, with the given evidence, there is zero chance I would recommend action at AE. I'm wondering why it is even here. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 20:15, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure WP:AE is a good place for one admin to drag another admin to "calm the waters", however. Normally, WP:AN is the place to go, so a larger audience can be had. Frivolously filing at WP:AE, to me, is a problem in and of itself. An admin would expected to know this isn't actionable, just as an admin should know not to stir the pot with aggressive tone and actions. Neither action is sanctionable, both are disappointing. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:53, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- Actually, although the discussion from Mzajac didn't use any overtly nasty words beyond "reactionary" - the tone of the discussion was quite battlegroundy and very definitely toeing the line. I certainly wouldn't find the discussion to be aimed at trying to find consensus, I found it very much of someone coming in to try to right some wrong and feeling like they needed to do battle. Your milage may vary, but I can certainly see with the past history that Ymlanter was better to come here to see if outside voices could calm the waters, rather than endure the undertones of battleground on the talk pages. Ealdgyth (talk) 21:16, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- We are getting close to the time where we need to walk over to ArbCom to have a serious discussion about Mzajac's continued access to the admin bit. --Guerillero 22:09, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- I've read through the two discussions Ymblanter linked. I don't love Mzajac's tone, but I don't see anything sanction-worthy, especially given that they struck the worst comment. If there's more evidence of misconduct, I would like to see it. I do disagree with Dennis Brown above: AE is a far superior venue to bring this sort of fraught political dispute; an ANI discussion would rapidly turn into a wall of text detering participation from anyone uninvolved. Guerillero, I recognize the oddity of an admin with a recent TBAN, but do you know of any other reason why ARBCOM needs to get involved here? Vanamonde (Talk) 22:36, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- Nobody's coming out of this smelling of roses. I find the request quite trivial. Stifle (talk) 11:19, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Venkat TL
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Request concerning Venkat TL
- User who is submitting this request for enforcement
- Abhishek0831996 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 11:15, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- User against whom enforcement is requested
- Venkat TL (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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- Sanction or remedy to be enforced
- Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan
- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
- 10 February 2022: Falsification of source which does not mention a "bulli bai" case.
- The above was soon followed by the creation of Neo-Nazism in India by this editor which is itself disruptive since the user had been already told that there exists no Neo-Nazism in India at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 2#Category:Neo-Nazism in India, but this editor appears to be on a crusade to prove some imaginary establishment of Neo-Nazism in India. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Neo-Nazism in India is itself full of WP:BLUDGEONING by this editor and ultimately this editor is a WP:1AMer in this whole scenario.
- 12 February: Puts an irrelevant image to make the connection of Nazism and India.
- 12 February: Restores his WP:SYNTH with a misleading edit summary.
- 12 February: In place of continuing the content dispute, he went ahead to seek protection by providing false reasoning as later also observed by admin Deepfriedokra.
- 12 February: Tells an opposing editor that: "
page is currently being vandalized by an IP from Gujarat. The state with most Neo Nazi activities in India. You might want to look at the pre-vandalized version before drawing your conclusions.
" This message reeks of WP:BATTLE and ignorance of WP:NOTVAND. - 12 February: Removes maintenance tags without resolving the issue in the hand.
- 13 February: Adds {{notavote}} despite participation by legitimate editors.
- 13 February: "
Why dont you guys stop pinging me and start emailing the historians and scholars who have written these scholarly references (linked in the article) about the rise of Neo-Nazism in India.
" The poor social skills and assumption of good faith required to communicate fellow editors are also visible.
I got to read about this all after the notification made by this editor on a familiar noticeboard. With so much disruption in an entire day, I think this editor is unfit to contribute to this contentious topic area.
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- Gave an alert about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on Date
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- @RegentsPark: There would be content dispute if Venkat TL was not alone with his imagination that a Neo-Nazi movement exists in India but he is fighting tooth to nail to reject anything contrary and has been misrepresenting sources. I believe a narrow topic ban is warranted given the lack of accountability and continuation of battleground mentality as seen from Venkat TL's own response here. He has gone through a recent WP:ANEW report cited below and a recent ANI report from 11 February. It is already clear that this editor is not willing to improve but continue with WP:DE and this has been made clear by Venkat TL through his own response here as he doubles down with his false claims such as "
request for page protection was to prevent this disruption
" when no disruption by another editor happened and personally attacks me by saying "some random butthurt guy on a mobile
" even after being notified of NPA. @Stifle: you should reconsider. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 13:19, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Discussion concerning Venkat TL
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Statement by Venkat TL
TLDR: A list of minor stuff and content disputes have been grossly misrepresented and editorialized by User:Abhishek0831996 in his report to make them appear as though they are 'chronic, intractable problems'. The attempt is to paint a sinister picture. All this because, I believe User:Abhishek0831996 did not like the article I created.
Full response: User:Abhishek0831996 has published this list of diffs on a mobile, I think it is not easy to do this on a mobile, so credits to Abhishek0831996 for his dedication, time and efforts. I have never come across this user Abhishek0831996. So this report by him came as a surprise and looks very odd to me. Before bringing this to the admin page, Abhishek0831996 never discussed his concerns with me on my user talk page, where I could have explained and resolved every concerns he had about me and my intentions. Straightaway bringing this to the Admin Arbitration page for admin action, makes me suspect that, Abhishek0831996's intention here is not to resolve the situation or find a solution but the intention is to snipe me, using gross misrepresentation of the actual facts. Why? I have no idea, but my guess would be probably because he did not like the article I had created. Whatever the case may be, here is my side of the story.
- This is not source falsification, both Reuters and CNN had covered the hijab row, so both supported the content that I had added in the diff. The content was copied from the Misplaced Pages Hijab Row article along with the source. While Reuters ref only covered the Hijab row. CNN covered both Hijab and the Bully bai case. In this diff I only copied the Reuters reference and forgot to also include CNN reference. I realized this 2 hours later and promptly included the CNN ref. CNN article has a section titled "Muslim women further targeted" that covered the Bulli bai online fake auction case. This is not source falsification, as content was reliably sourced. A case of missing ref, may be. This is a trumped up charge suggesting nefarious intentions, when there is none.
- Abhishek0831996 is presenting his claim that there is no neo-nazism in India as a fact, but it is widely documented by Scholars and journalists, Refs: (more refs in Article Neo-Nazism in India and AfD page)
- I am not on any crusade whatsoever.
- Remaining links added by Abhishek0831996 are regarding complicated content disputes of controversial political topics, where OP is grossly misrepresenting the situation.
- Everything in the AfD article is reliably sourced. I have kept my replies limited to :
- reaching towards a consensus
- understanding what improvements may be needed in the article so that the article survives after the AfD
- and disengaging in case I get an idea that the AfD contributor is not going to change his opinion.
- The swastika usage image was copied from Swastika#Hinduism and included in the article Neo-Nazism in India next to the section named "Neo-Nazism in India#Nazi ideology and imagery" which discussed both Nazi Swastika and Swastika#Hinduism. In the article I had provided both wiki links for the benefit of the reader. So the pic as a pictorial representation of the text, is relevant, and the OP is again misrepresenting my intentions.
- This IP user from Gujarat had removed the content saying "source does not mention 'roots". I took his objection into account, and updated the content. While restoring the content, instead of blanket revert I copy edited and dropped the word "root". I added copy edit in the edit summary. This is not misleading and again the OP is misrepresenting and suggesting nefarious intentions.
- The article was on AfD and this Guajarat IP was removing reliably sourced content breaking the flow of the article and making the article look awkward, badly written with out of place content. My request for page protection was to prevent this disruption of the article and allow the AfD contributors to judge the article on what it was and not the version butchered by the Gujarat IP. I had expanded my page protection request in a few mins of posting. Abhishek0831996 has (intentionally?) skipped this second diff where I had updated my request with more information. My page protection request after my second edit had said "Temporary protection: Persistent Disruptive Editing, Edit warring and removal of sourced content by IP while the article is being discussed at AfD.". The admin noted this in note at AfD. There was no false reasoning, but OP is misrepresenting the situation and suggesting nefarious intentions.
- The Gujarat IP among other things had removed the prose section that had discussed the use of Swastikas. Reading User:Timtrent's reply it appeared to me as though, he did not check the page history and was unaware of the ongoing butchering of the article by the Gujarat IP. Since User:Timtrent had made inaccurate observations regarding the state of the article and the swastika image, so my note was to let him know that he should also review the un-butchered version from the page history. There is no nefarious intention in my message. Op is misrepresenting what happened.
- Based on the tags and the objection by the Gujarat IP, I agreed to drop and not restore some of the removed content, the rest of the article did not merit the tag and the article was anyway on AfD for discussion. This sort of tagging of an article on AfD was unnecessary.
- The note is self explanatory.
- RKT7789 and पदाति were claiming that since there is no anti-semitism in India hence there is no Neo-Nazism in India. This is fallacious belief, not in line with what the reliable sources and scholars/historians have published. I had explained using Neo-Nazism definition, that it includes Islamophobia also. The two did not agree to the scholarly definition, and sensing this, I disengaged with the note that I had presented what scholars had said. As I understood that further discussion is not going to sway them I wrote "Do not ping me again." There is no way I can explain all this this on the AfD page, moreover it would be off topic, since we were discussing the notability and not the definition of Neo-nazism. Even though I had clearly asked not to ping me, RKT7789 pinged me again. The linked diff is my reply to RKT7789, where I said that instead of pinging me (when there is nothing for me to add), they should take up their cause with the scholars, who have written stuff that is contrary to what RKT7789 believed. OP Abhishek0831996 seems to have taken an offence that I had disengaged from the AfD. If I continue the discussion, Abhishek0831996 claims it is WP:BLUDGEON, if I disengage from the discussion, Abhishek0831996 claims poor social skills. Basically Abhishek0831996 is accusing me of discussing too much and also NOT discussing, in the same AfD thread. Damned if I do, damned if I dont.
I conclude saying I have acted in good faith with best intentions and contributed constructively. I will be happy to elaborate more if any further clarification is needed from me. Please ping me when you ask the question. Venkat TL (talk) 15:05, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- @RegentsPark: When I had written I meant it in a humorous way, obviously I did not expect anyone would start sending emails to historians after a debate with a random guy on Misplaced Pages. My point, I was trying to get across was that I could not get them to agree to the definition given by the historians, so convincing them was above my pay grade and they should find someone else (better than me) to debate this and leave me alone. I was not expecting that some random butthurt guy on a mobile will take the joke seriously, and then use it as a diff to file an arbitration case.
- I have pruned the statement, since I have to clarify the intentions as well as discuss the alleged content dispute, further pruning is not feasible. I cannot omit relevant facts to reach the 500 word limit. So I request the admins to bear with me.
- I believe there should be some cost and consequences for filing such false arbitration case and wasting everyone's time. Venkat TL (talk) 09:48, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- @CapnJackSp That EW case was closed as no action. Interestingly, CapnJackSp was also edit warring there, that too to restore a blatant Copyright violation, that CapnJackSp had introduced into the article. 4 reverts by me in that case were WP:NOT3RR for removing the Copyright violation, that CapnJackSp was adding into the article. I did not report CapnJackSp because I am not into the habit of filling false or immature cases. Venkat TL (talk) 12:43, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- OP, Cambridge Dictionary defines butthurt as offended and upset.
- Now read my full sentence once again.
- "I was not expecting that some random offended and upset guy on a mobile will take the joke seriously, and then use it as a diff to file an arbitration case." Venkat TL (talk) 13:40, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- The desperation in this guy's comment speaks volumes. Such pleadings are only seen in unblock requests, but here being done to achieve the opposite. User:Abhishek0831996 through his second comment has confirmed my suspicion, that this Arbitration case is an exercise in making a mountain of a molehill to snipe me due to the content dispute. Venkat TL (talk) 07:53, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Seraphimblade informal warning for what exactly? cracking a joke? Venkat TL (talk) 15:32, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- The desperation in this guy's comment speaks volumes. Such pleadings are only seen in unblock requests, but here being done to achieve the opposite. User:Abhishek0831996 through his second comment has confirmed my suspicion, that this Arbitration case is an exercise in making a mountain of a molehill to snipe me due to the content dispute. Venkat TL (talk) 07:53, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- @CapnJackSp That EW case was closed as no action. Interestingly, CapnJackSp was also edit warring there, that too to restore a blatant Copyright violation, that CapnJackSp had introduced into the article. 4 reverts by me in that case were WP:NOT3RR for removing the Copyright violation, that CapnJackSp was adding into the article. I did not report CapnJackSp because I am not into the habit of filling false or immature cases. Venkat TL (talk) 12:43, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Statement by CapnJackSp
@RegentsPark and Stifle: But see how Venkat TL has failed to justify the misrepresentation of source as evidenced on diff no.1. He claims that the CNN source supported his statement when it didn't. See the discussion at Talk:Bulli Bai case#February 2022.
I would also mention that just 4 days ago Venkat TL was reported on edit warring noticeboard, where he was asked to stop with personal attacks and the report evidenced that he was undoubtedly edit warring. The diffs cited on this report came after this yet another recent episode of disruption. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 11:32, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Statement by username
Result concerning Venkat TL
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- As far as I can see, this is largely a content issue (the article created by Venkat TL) that has some components of aggressiveness (on the deletion page) but nothing that isn't outside the norms of passionate editing. Perhaps a gentle reminder (of the sort below) to Venkat TL, but this isn't at the level of AE action. I suggest just closing this. @Venkat TL: you need to dial the passion down a bit on the deletion page (asking people to email historians and scholars, seriously!). You should consider pruning your statement above (it is way over the 500 word limit). --RegentsPark (comment) 20:37, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Abhishek0831996: I still don't see this as an AE issue. Some amount of sniping is always a possibility and should come to AE only if there is sufficient disruption or egregious POV pushing going on. From what I can see, Venkat TL is aggressively defending their article but there is no evidence that they will behave disruptively if the AfD closes as delete or merge. I'd just drop this if I were you. --RegentsPark (comment) 16:54, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Conduct does not appear to me to rise to a level requiring action. Stifle (talk) 11:20, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with the above that the behavior is not ideal but also not to a sanctionable level at this point. Unless another uninvolved admin disagrees within the next day or so, I would close this with no action or perhaps an informal warning. Seraphimblade 09:18, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
Iskandar323
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Request concerning Iskandar323
- User who is submitting this request for enforcement
- Shrike (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 06:12, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- User against whom enforcement is requested
- Iskandar323 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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- Sanction or remedy to be enforced
- Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel_articles
- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
- 21:46, 17 February 2022 Revert restore of this
- 05:33, 17 February 2022 partial restore of this removal of "modern Israel" and "Parts of Jordan" in both versions.
- Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any
- Topic ban for 12 month Topic ban which was lifted on appeal only a few days ago he was warned that
This means the threshold for harsher, and longer duration sanctions is much lower, and if basic policy on editing in these areas is not followed, will likely come without any warning. Please be careful.
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- It doesn't matter if it was different "premise" as you claim, you twice removed text that you didn't like . Partial revert is still a revert --Shrike (talk) 11:28, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Dennis Brown There are not connected but per WP:3RR "An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page —' whether involving the same or different material' " If you say that user is allowed to revert different material I will ask to withdraw this request and ask ARCA clarification Shrike (talk) 12:11, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
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Discussion concerning Iskandar323
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Statement by Iskandar323
I count one revert and one mountain out of a molehill. Shrike has presented a series of edits, none of which remain in place or are being edit warred over, and the most recent of which is under active discussion (started by me) on the talk page as part of a healthy WP:BRD cycle. The second edit Shrike has presented is not clearly a revert. It was a different edit, making a different change and with a different premise, as explained in the edit comments. It has not been labelled as "Tag:Undo" and the edits before it has not been labelled as "Tag:Reverted", so clearly it was not enough of a revert to rile any bots, but, in any case, in the face of opposition from other editors, the matter was promptly dropped and everyone moved on.
... except for Shrike, who has notably not been involved in any of this editing, has not participated in or engaged with the discussion, did not raise any issues with me on my talk page, and appears to be only here for the drive-by attempted elimination of another editor (over edits that for everyone actually involved are dust on the wind). Four other editors were editing the page at the same time, and none of them see the contrived picture that Shrike now presents or have raised any issues on my talk page. Forgive me if I am wrong, but I thought that AE was a recourse of last resort for raising serious complaints about disruptive editing, not raking over non-existent edit conflicts that have already being resolved by the parties involved.
At this point I would like to note that Shrike has been fairly relentlessly in pursuing me from a disciplinary standpoint the moment I set foot in the IP area, giving me my ARBPIA warning, raising an AE against me, being the only editor to turn up to object to my TBAN appeal (after just 15 minutes with a long list of grievances combed from my talk archive) and now here, having combed my recent edits. Aside from Icewhiz socks, Shrike is the only editor who has taken up major issue with my editing, despite our interaction outside of these enforcement actions being almost non-existent. I would like in turn to request an interaction ban between myself and Shrike so that this can end. Iskandar323 (talk) 11:13, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
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Result concerning Iskandar323
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- Shrike, I'm struggling to see how these two edits could possibly be related to each other for the purpose of 1RR. They are in different sections of the article. That doesn't mean they are good or bad edits, but for the purpose of 1RR violation, we normally expect the two edits to be (more or less) the same exact content. Can explain how they are connected? Dennis Brown - 2¢ 11:59, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
Hemantha
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- User who is submitting this request for enforcement
- Kautilya3 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 14:54, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- User against whom enforcement is requested
- Hemantha (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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- Sanction or remedy to be enforced
- Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan
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- 15:16, 15 February 2022 In his first edit to the page, deletes content claiming it to be WP:OR
- 15:35, 15 February 2022, 16:26, 15 February 2022; More of the same
- 17:05, 15 February 2022 More complaints about "unsourced" claims, and when an editor reworded it, tags them with silly tags (04:18, 16 February 2022)
- 06:56, 17 February 2022 Yet more claims of WP:OR the next day
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- Placed a {{Ds/aware}} template for the area of conflict on their own talk page.
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The user created his account in 2013 but started any serioous editing in only November 2021. He came to the page on 2022 Karnataka hijab row on 15 February, roughly a week after it was created, and started contesting bits of existing content, claiming it to be WP:OR. In all cases, the sources do support the content in some form, even though they might be open to interpretation. Wholesale deletion would be uncalled for.
For this little bit of contribution to the main page, he made some 32 posts on the talk page between 15 February and 17 February (and apparently 8 more posts today). As an example of how this discussion goes, we can look at the discussion concerning diff 4 above, where it is apparent that content was supported by the cited source from the beginning, but the editor is not satisfied despite being shown several quotes from the source for support. Rise in student numbers is a commonplace phenomenon worldwide, and is in no way central to this dispute. No good faith editor should be arguing such details. (By the way, a later paragraph in the #Background section gives statistics for the rise in numbers, along with a comprehensive source.)
He has argued about the spelling of a Kannada word, despite the fact that spellings stated were as in the cited sources.
After having argued till yesteray that negotiations happened in December, today he started supporting the idea that ban was decided in January. If the ban happened only in January, what was being negotiated in December? It wouldn't make sense.
He has even edit-warred over where a reflist-talk box should go on the talk page! And there was discussion on it on my user talk as well.
Ever since he came on the scene, all new writing of content has stopped, despite new developments taking place practically everyday. We are having to spend all our time arguing with him.
His overall profile shows a similar trend, with low contributions (37%) to the main space. His top edited page in the mainspace shows only deletions, no new content. His other editing is similar as well.
Despite being clever and quite capable, this editor is showing only tendencies of WP:DE and WP:NOTHERE. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:54, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
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Result concerning Hemantha
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