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{{unblock reviewed |1=wow I'm not "owed" a response? and I'm supposed to know that?? really? usually when someone asks a polite question a normal polite person responds - again i politely asked on March 24 if adding it would be ok and she failed to respond, now i'm blocked because of her failure to respond? I'M NOT A WIKIPEDIA EXPERT.. I don't always remember to log in, I work on the road so that's why multiple ip - not sure why that is such a huge deal I'm not perfect. My only intent is definitely not to promote that site, that is false as well - I HAVE RECENTLY ADDED 2 GREAT HISTORY PHOTOS, if you check they are STILL there and I don't intend on ever trying to add that link again - she is also retaliating by trying to blacklist the link for no good reason. It is NOT just an affiliate link / ticket selling site, it's an independent guide with weather, history, event info, parking info, directions and alot more which WAS useful on wikipedia for almost 20 years.. I have 40 years of great knowledge about Jones Beach and plan on adding useful info, not links.. unfortunately IF i'm not unblocked all future useful edits will have to be done not logged in. |decline = {{facepalm}}<p>"''I don't always remember to log in, I work on the road so that's why multiple ip - not sure why that is such a huge deal I'm not perfect.''" If after all this time you're still "not sure why that is such a huge deal" then ... well ... I don't know what purpose ''any'' of these conversations can possibly serve. ''Many'' other editors, even highly problematic ones, get and have gotten this. It is a huge deal because if we didn't take it that way, bad actors would be exploiting it. Your level of indifference to this makes it highly doubtful, to me, that you will ever be unblocked.<p>"''unfortunately IF i'm not unblocked all future useful edits will have to be done not logged in.''" For this alone I could have declined. Promising to sockpuppet and evade further if you're not unblocked is ''never'' the way to get unblocked. And thus I think it not only enough that I decline this request but that I revoke your talk page access as any further requests would be a waste of our time and yours (you may still continue to bang your head against this particular wall by using the private Unblock Ticket Request System) — ] (]) 05:30, 25 April 2022 (UTC)}} | {{unblock reviewed |1=wow I'm not "owed" a response? and I'm supposed to know that?? really? usually when someone asks a polite question a normal polite person responds - again i politely asked on March 24 if adding it would be ok and she failed to respond, now i'm blocked because of her failure to respond? I'M NOT A WIKIPEDIA EXPERT.. I don't always remember to log in, I work on the road so that's why multiple ip - not sure why that is such a huge deal I'm not perfect. My only intent is definitely not to promote that site, that is false as well - I HAVE RECENTLY ADDED 2 GREAT HISTORY PHOTOS, if you check they are STILL there and I don't intend on ever trying to add that link again - she is also retaliating by trying to blacklist the link for no good reason. It is NOT just an affiliate link / ticket selling site, it's an independent guide with weather, history, event info, parking info, directions and alot more which WAS useful on wikipedia for almost 20 years.. I have 40 years of great knowledge about Jones Beach and plan on adding useful info, not links.. unfortunately IF i'm not unblocked all future useful edits will have to be done not logged in. |decline = {{facepalm}}<p>"''I don't always remember to log in, I work on the road so that's why multiple ip - not sure why that is such a huge deal I'm not perfect.''" If after all this time you're still "not sure why that is such a huge deal" then ... well ... I don't know what purpose ''any'' of these conversations can possibly serve. ''Many'' other editors, even highly problematic ones, get and have gotten this. It is a huge deal because if we didn't take it that way, bad actors would be exploiting it. Your level of indifference to this makes it highly doubtful, to me, that you will ever be unblocked.<p>"''unfortunately IF i'm not unblocked all future useful edits will have to be done not logged in.''" For this alone I could have declined. Promising to sockpuppet and evade further if you're not unblocked is ''never'' the way to get unblocked. And thus I think it not only enough that I decline this request but that I revoke your talk page access as any further requests would be a waste of our time and yours (you may still continue to bang your head against this particular wall by using the private Unblock Ticket Request System) — ] (]) 05:30, 25 April 2022 (UTC)}} | ||
thanks for your suggestion, I guess "banging my head against this particular wall" was successful lol | |||
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You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you insert a spam link. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted, preventing anyone from linking to them from all Wikimedia sites as well as potentially being penalized by search engines. OhNoitsJamie 18:41, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- this is not spam what is going on here? jonesbeach.com has been THE go-to page for all long islanders for jones beach concert listings since 1996 - and ALSO the designated website for this wiki since wiki started in 2001 Defeedme (talk) 19:13, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. OhNoitsJamie 19:14, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- If you or any other accounts add it again, it will be sent to the spam blacklist, which I don't think you want. OhNoitsJamie 19:15, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- (1) You don't get to make unblock requests while logged-out. Your IP is now blocked. (2) The history is irrelevant; external links don't get "tenure." Whether or not it's copyrighted is meaningless. It's a commercial site that doesn't have any official status, and as such doesn't meet any WP:EL criteria. OhNoitsJamie 19:29, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi,
- Just want to ask first if this is ok with you to add under "external links" at the bottom.
- JonesBeach.com - Independent Guide Since 1998
- Thanks Defeedme (talk) 22:24, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- (1) You don't get to make unblock requests while logged-out. Your IP is now blocked. (2) The history is irrelevant; external links don't get "tenure." Whether or not it's copyrighted is meaningless. It's a commercial site that doesn't have any official status, and as such doesn't meet any WP:EL criteria. OhNoitsJamie 19:29, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- this was sent on march 24 but no response:
- Just want to ask first if this is ok with you to add under "external links" at the bottom.
- - Independent Guide Since 1998
- Thanks Defeedme (talk) 22:24, 24 March 2022 (UTC) Defeedme (talk) 02:10, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- this was sent on march 24 but no response:
- Just want to ask first if this is ok with you to add under "external links" at the bottom.
- - Independent Guide Since 1998
- Thanks Defeedme (talk) 22:24, 24 March 2022 (UTC) Defeedme (talk) 02:11, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- The fact that you've been warned about adding it numerous times and subsquently blocked for spamming should make it clear that no, it's not OK. As promised above, the site has been added to our spam blacklist. OhNoitsJamie 02:22, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- not sure why you are so hostile for no reason. It's not spam it's the original independent guide like many other type links on wikipedia that have no problems. I asked you on March 24 and you never responded. seems like there's ulterior motives here. Defeedme (talk) 02:25, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
Spam-only account
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because your account is being used only for advertising or promotion. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. OhNoitsJamie 13:32, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).Defeedme (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
i'm being attacked for absolutely no reason, this person ohnoitsjamie doesnt respond to my question for a month then retaliates
Decline reason:
I see no attack. The link goes straight to an affiliate link / ticket selling site. Not clear on how it is useful and there's a clear COI here. For this kind of material, it would be best to just send people to the LiveNation site since they're the actual operator and first party. Unfortunately, you chose to re-add the link several times to different pages using different IPs, so a blacklisting seems appropriate. Since your only intent seems to be promoting this site and the associated facebook site there is no reason to unblock this account. We are here to improve articles, not to promote our own material. Kuru (talk) 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).Defeedme (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
are you sure you read everything - i politely asked on March 24 if adding it would be ok and she failed to respond, now i'm blocked because of her failure to respond? I don't always remember to log in, I work on the road so that's why multiple ip - not sure why that is such a huge deal, I'm not perfect. My only intent is definitely not to promote that site, that is false as well - I have added 2 great history photos, if you check they are still there and I don't intend on ever trying to add that link again - she is also retaliating by trying to blacklist the link for no good reason. It is NOT just an affiliate link / ticket selling site, it's an independent guide with weather, history, event info, parking info, directions and alot more.. I have 40 years of great knowledge about Jones Beach and plan on adding useful info, not links. thanks
Decline reason:
You aren't owed a response. You were told your link was inappropriate. That was true on March 7. It's still true today. The link wasn't blacklisted out of retaliation, it was blacklisted because it's not an appropriate site to link here. That's not to say your site is a bad site, just that it's not appropriate here. Yamla (talk) 11:26, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).Defeedme (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
wow I'm not "owed" a response? and I'm supposed to know that?? really? usually when someone asks a polite question a normal polite person responds - again i politely asked on March 24 if adding it would be ok and she failed to respond, now i'm blocked because of her failure to respond? I'M NOT A WIKIPEDIA EXPERT.. I don't always remember to log in, I work on the road so that's why multiple ip - not sure why that is such a huge deal I'm not perfect. My only intent is definitely not to promote that site, that is false as well - I HAVE RECENTLY ADDED 2 GREAT HISTORY PHOTOS, if you check they are STILL there and I don't intend on ever trying to add that link again - she is also retaliating by trying to blacklist the link for no good reason. It is NOT just an affiliate link / ticket selling site, it's an independent guide with weather, history, event info, parking info, directions and alot more which WAS useful on wikipedia for almost 20 years.. I have 40 years of great knowledge about Jones Beach and plan on adding useful info, not links.. unfortunately IF i'm not unblocked all future useful edits will have to be done not logged in.
Decline reason:
Facepalm"I don't always remember to log in, I work on the road so that's why multiple ip - not sure why that is such a huge deal I'm not perfect." If after all this time you're still "not sure why that is such a huge deal" then ... well ... I don't know what purpose any of these conversations can possibly serve. Many other editors, even highly problematic ones, get and have gotten this. It is a huge deal because if we didn't take it that way, bad actors would be exploiting it. Your level of indifference to this makes it highly doubtful, to me, that you will ever be unblocked.
"unfortunately IF i'm not unblocked all future useful edits will have to be done not logged in." For this alone I could have declined. Promising to sockpuppet and evade further if you're not unblocked is never the way to get unblocked. And thus I think it not only enough that I decline this request but that I revoke your talk page access as any further requests would be a waste of our time and yours (you may still continue to bang your head against this particular wall by using the private Unblock Ticket Request System) — Daniel Case (talk) 05:30, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
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thanks for your suggestion, I guess "banging my head against this particular wall" was successful lol
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Daniel Case (talk) 05:32, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
UTRS appeal #57574
is closed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 07:11, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, it appears the new appeal is in limbo? 73.0.31.205 (talk) 09:12, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- All UTRS requests are located in Limbo. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:24, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
UTRS appeal #57797
After discussion with blocking admin, unblocking. User agrees to, not add links to Jones Beach, and any related topic, eg, Jones Beach State Park and Jones Beach Theater. (jonesbeach.com, etc), and to not edit Jones Beach, and any related topic, eg, Jones Beach State Park and Jones Beach Theater. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:23, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
Unblocked. Welcome back. Logged in unblock log. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:28, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Deepfriedokra, thanks so much for all your help.
- Just had a quick question, I thought the link jonesbeach.com was blacklisted?
- best, Mike Defeedme (talk) 17:21, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- It is, and will remain so. The unblock conditions include arguing about the blacklisting. OhNoitsJamie 17:32, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- I wasn't asking you. Defeedme (talk) 00:39, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Given that I suggested the unblock conditions in the first place, my input is relevant here. I will reblock you if you violate those conditions. OhNoitsJamie 00:57, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- really? according to Deepfriedokra, Daniel Case was the blocking admin & who was consulted for the unblock conditions.. I find this very interesting https://hackernoon.com/wikipedia-sucks-theres-a-solution-by-wikis-real-daddy Defeedme (talk) 01:32, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Daniel was the last admin to change your block settings (where he removed talk page access). That's immaterial; as I said, those unblock conditions that Deepfriedokra mentions above were my suggestion. Any admin can reblock you. You claimed in your UTRS unblock requests that you were interested in making edits to other topic areas and listed some of those areas. Feel free to make those edits at any time. OhNoitsJamie 01:38, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Interesting how you respond so quickly now but failed to respond at all when I asked a simple question over a month ago.. Are you going to block me if I ask why spam links (external) are allowed on both these pages? https://en.wikipedia.org/PNC_Bank_Arts_Center and https://en.wikipedia.org/Red_Rocks_Amphitheatre Defeedme (talk) 01:48, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Daniel was the last admin to change your block settings (where he removed talk page access). That's immaterial; as I said, those unblock conditions that Deepfriedokra mentions above were my suggestion. Any admin can reblock you. You claimed in your UTRS unblock requests that you were interested in making edits to other topic areas and listed some of those areas. Feel free to make those edits at any time. OhNoitsJamie 01:38, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- really? according to Deepfriedokra, Daniel Case was the blocking admin & who was consulted for the unblock conditions.. I find this very interesting https://hackernoon.com/wikipedia-sucks-theres-a-solution-by-wikis-real-daddy Defeedme (talk) 01:32, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Given that I suggested the unblock conditions in the first place, my input is relevant here. I will reblock you if you violate those conditions. OhNoitsJamie 00:57, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- I wasn't asking you. Defeedme (talk) 00:39, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- It is, and will remain so. The unblock conditions include arguing about the blacklisting. OhNoitsJamie 17:32, 5 May 2022 (UTC)