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::::::If I may add my 2 cents without turning Roxy's Talk page into a message board: in this context, mentioning GSoW is a red herring. Most people editing fringe topics and using "skeptical" sources are not part of the group. In any case, we never encourage our members to gang up on a discussion page. What you stated in the discussion seems to be correct: you're finding yourself at odds with editors with a long history of good work, that's a good reason to take a moment to reflect (I've been there, many times). ] (]) 21:41, 7 August 2022 (UTC) ::::::If I may add my 2 cents without turning Roxy's Talk page into a message board: in this context, mentioning GSoW is a red herring. Most people editing fringe topics and using "skeptical" sources are not part of the group. In any case, we never encourage our members to gang up on a discussion page. What you stated in the discussion seems to be correct: you're finding yourself at odds with editors with a long history of good work, that's a good reason to take a moment to reflect (I've been there, many times). ] (]) 21:41, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
:::::::I took that moment yesterday, I would feel differently if the larger community wasn't also solidly against those "editors with a long history of good work" on these particular issues, see for example ]. It feels a little weird to be falsely accused of being part of an off-wiki group and then to learn that not only does a real one exist but I'm somehow seen as opposing it's will. ] (]) 22:04, 7 August 2022 (UTC) :::::::I took that moment yesterday, I would feel differently if the larger community wasn't also solidly against those "editors with a long history of good work" on these particular issues, see for example ]. It feels a little weird to be falsely accused of being part of an off-wiki group and then to learn that not only does a real one exist but I'm somehow seen as opposing it's will. ] (]) 22:04, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
{{od}}I mean, you aren't banned from my talkpage, Horse Eye's Back, and in spite of it all, I really do hold no ill-will towards you. I am happy to explain, but somehow imagine you won't be interested in my explanation. In any case, I'm not accusing you of being a member of GSoW. I rather see you as acting on certain ''principled advocacy'' that caused the case in the first place. What makes things worse is that you are convinced that the "larger community" is somehow "solidly against" those with whom you are fighting. That's all I'll say for now in hopes of not causing more disagreements. ] (]) 22:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

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Kate Bush

With Stranger Things bringing Kate new fans and the longest wait for a number one hit, I am reminded of the best ever Kate bush track, on youtube. Glorious. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 15:27, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm going to take a risk, with the hope this isn't plonker-like behavior, and post here. I've been a long-time fan of the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain, but it's always bothered me that they don't use a bass ukulele more often, and instead use a standard acoustic bass guitar. I've got one of these strung with these, and it sounds absolutely amazing. They've got all manner of other ukuleles in use, I think I've even seen them use some banjoleles, but they seem to shun the bass uke. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:45, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
I think it is safe to say that if I cannot remember the reason I asked you to stay away, there is no longer any need to stay away. It will have been something petty that enraged me at the time. I'm pleased that I dont remember. Please dont remind me.
They all look very young on that video, Kitty has not been with us for a couple of years I think, so sad.
I did know that he used an accoustic bass guitar, but didn't know there was such a thing as a bass uke. If they didn't use a bass instrument of some type I dont think they would be as entertaining musically. It grounds the sound, so to speak.
I never owned a uke, but could do basic stuff, but my dad did a full on "standing on the corner" with twiddley bits at the drop of a hat. Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 23:02, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
The bass uke is a pretty unusual instrument. The strings are basically very thick, round rubber bands. I can pull the e string almost a foot from the body. I'm not much of a string player, although I've been a percussionist for a few decades. I recently picked up concertina as well, which is a fun little instrument. I also took fiddle lessons for a while, but I don't have the ears for fretless instruments.
I learned my ukulele skills from my wife when we were dating. She's got a few decades on strings, and had an absolutely huge collection of ukuleles, mandolins, dulcimers, banjos and guitars. Ukulele is fun because it's so easy to pick up and strum songs. You can learn the most common chord progressions in an afternoon. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:15, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Since we've both been reverting them...

I just thought I'd give you an fyi about this: . --Tryptofish (talk) 20:02, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Interesting. I have no idea how to find similar behaviour on articles that aren't on my watchlist from different IP's. I just thought I was sweeping up some rando. Let's see what happens from your report. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 23:07, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
The way to find that is to look at the user contributions of the IP (along with checking the edit history of the vandalized pages for other recent vandalism). I tend to do that as a matter of habit with vandalism, so I can revert the rest of the vandalism. I just posted at ANI that the IP here is now doing block evasion. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:37, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
FYI, as an example, I saw this: , and then did this: . --Tryptofish (talk) 18:37, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
You both get all the fun. I get stuck in boring notability discussions over whether someone should be called a producer, executive producer or film financier. I need another hobby. Perhaps BASE jumping. I hear that's kinda interesting and edgy. --ARoseWolf 16:59, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
I'm not sure it's exactly fun reporting a vandal who keeps posting about hemorrhoids. (Arguably more like a pain in the... ) --Tryptofish (talk) 17:05, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
The hemorrhoids or the vandal? --ARoseWolf 17:07, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Exactly. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:16, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Cheeky! 😉 --ARoseWolf 17:26, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Yoruba religion - ìṣẹ̀ṣe symbol

Hello Roxy, The symbol of ìṣẹ̀ṣe religion added is the genuine symbol of the religion, as it's been explained by ifá - Iwájú Ọpọ́n - Ẹ̀yìn Ọpọ́n - Olùmú Ọ̀tún - Olùkànràn Òsì - Àárín Ọpọ́n Ìta Ọ̀run.

The symbol simply explained the philosophical concept of the four cardinal point of the earth.. Ìṣẹ̀ṣeAssembly (talk) 09:40, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

I have no idea what the yoruba language in your post on means, but I believe you made those two images yourself, which is imho WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. I had, and still have, every justification for removing those two images because of this. I have not yet decided what to do because you have reinstated them. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 07:51, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
@Roxy the dog this is on my watchlist and I meant to delete it as unsourced, which I’ve now done. Doug Weller talk 08:32, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
I think it is on my watchlist because of you. I saw that you had removed that Image just now before I saw this. There is another image they made, equally synth and imho meaningless in an english language wiki, that they added back, which I am tempted to remove. I was in the process of trying to remember where my interestwas sparked too, so thanks. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 08:37, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
It would also be useful to have an rs for Iṣẹṣe which is probably used correctly but I’m not sure. Doug Weller talk 08:38, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Naturism

I think Naturism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) will need PP or a range block as the same edits were just performed by 196.221.116.99 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) which I reported to wp:AIV. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 09:43, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

I protected the page, got rid of the abusive edit summaries. Doug Weller talk 10:28, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
While having chemo, nice to be diverted! Doug Weller talk 10:28, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Haha, I've been diverted for a couple of hours, and all this happened. Great stuff. -Roxy the English speaking dog 11:41, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi

Hey, don't want to interject at Talk:ජපස‎ because I kicked them off my talk page so its not really fair for me to jump on theirs but what is the Guerrilla Skeptic Arbcom case and what does it have to do with me? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 18:59, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi, guess I was wrong, but the case, in a nutshell, was the one that ultimately made the GSOW people become a little more transparent about their activities on Misplaced Pages, and I got sent to the naughty step for barking too loud. -Roxy the English speaking dog 19:06, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Still too high level for me, I don't even know what GSOW is either. The naughty step? I thought it was straight to the doghouse for you... Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:11, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
"Guerrilla Skeptics On Misplaced Pages" are a facebook group, dedicated to improving wikipedia. They do great work, follow the rules rather admirably, and mind their own business. They also pride themselves in giving newbies to wikipedia a basic grounding in how to survive the rough and tumble of editing in what is a controversial area, sceptical topics. I see, as I write this that you have further responded, but I think it worth noting that those on the otherside of the subject, those that complain about them (gsow) I do not consider to have the right idea about this project. fwiw. ;) -Roxy the English speaking dog 19:17, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Sorry, a little slow... Just had to put "GSOW" into the search box and it took me right there. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:15, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  • For what its worth if you're searching for meaning you will find it at the beginning of Misplaced Pages:Fringe theories/Noticeboard#"Congress Set to Approve Endless Make-Work Paranormal Program for UFO Grifters", Doug posted a blog post with absolutely zero comment and I took one look at it and went "oh yeah Doug is right thats hella fringe he's calling senators loons etc" when apparently thats not at all what Doug meant. The whole thing happened because of a misunderstanding. I appear to have trodden into a minefield when I thought I was making uncontroversial edits (which I stand behind) which would have broad community support. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:23, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
    I'll be honest and say that I cannot understand what is going on at FTN in that thread, and when that happens, I will usually step back and not concern myself too much, as in this case. I do hope that whatever is going on gets sorted out amicably for all concerned, as I respect all concerned very much. I dont know you as well as JPS and Doug though.regards - Roxy the English speaking dog 19:44, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
    I appreciate that and I'm not asking you to pick a side, I get where you're coming from and its genuinely unnerving to find myself on the other side from such well respected editors. One last question, who that I've been interacting with is a GSOW member? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:48, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
    I will confess that I know very few actual names of members, and I dont know who you've been interacting with. A couple that came out during the case pleasantly surprised me, as I had known them for a considerable time. For me, the point is that they are editors here, following P&G. The main issue of the case as far as I could see, was transparency, the thought of thinking people collaborating outside of the project being an anathama to some, very petty problem to me as they follow our standards onwiki. I could be wrong, but I think that the fall-out issue may be related to this, but I'm uncertain.
    I do hope that this will eventually turn out to be a minor spat, rather than anything more. - Roxy the English speaking dog 19:59, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
    Well I guess I leave with more questions than answers but its been nice having the background explained to me. Thank you and happy editing. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 20:17, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
    (talk page watcher) Sorry if this gives Roxy (and me, for that matter) any bad memories, but here is a link to the ArbCom case and to the list of named parties: . For your still-unanswered questions, you can see there who the GSoW people were (the 2nd and 3rd people on that list) and what the case was about. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:24, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
If I may add my 2 cents without turning Roxy's Talk page into a message board: in this context, mentioning GSoW is a red herring. Most people editing fringe topics and using "skeptical" sources are not part of the group. In any case, we never encourage our members to gang up on a discussion page. What you stated in the discussion seems to be correct: you're finding yourself at odds with editors with a long history of good work, that's a good reason to take a moment to reflect (I've been there, many times). Robincantin (talk) 21:41, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
I took that moment yesterday, I would feel differently if the larger community wasn't also solidly against those "editors with a long history of good work" on these particular issues, see for example Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Is The New Republic's Soapbox section a reliable source?. It feels a little weird to be falsely accused of being part of an off-wiki group and then to learn that not only does a real one exist but I'm somehow seen as opposing it's will. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 22:04, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

I mean, you aren't banned from my talkpage, Horse Eye's Back, and in spite of it all, I really do hold no ill-will towards you. I am happy to explain, but somehow imagine you won't be interested in my explanation. In any case, I'm not accusing you of being a member of GSoW. I rather see you as acting on certain principled advocacy that caused the case in the first place. What makes things worse is that you are convinced that the "larger community" is somehow "solidly against" those with whom you are fighting. That's all I'll say for now in hopes of not causing more disagreements. jps (talk) 22:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)