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*'''Weak Support''' the use of federal troops to attack a former leader is unheard of in Western democracies but perhaps unsurprising given that the ] was a years long multi-million dollar attack on Donald Trump that ultimately came up empty handed. --] (]) 09:35, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


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Raid of Mar-a-Lago

Article: Raid of Mar-a-Lago (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the United States, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) raids Mar-a-Lago, one of the homes of former President Donald Trump (Post)
News source(s): https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/08/us/politics/trump-fbi-mar-a-lago.html
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Nominator's comments: Unheard of in the United States. Therapyisgood (talk) 02:09, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

  • I'm aware of how large of a story it is in the U.S.—I live here—but ITN is a global thing. Certain things from the U.S. do transcend ITN's usual disdain for U.S. centric news, such as the most recent blurb in ITN right now and the Uvalde shooting from months ago, but this is not one of them. It's part of a larger story for sure, but globally this has no impact on even someone from Canada. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 04:10, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Perhaps surprisingly, this is the Number 2 story on Australia's national broadcaster right now, behind unsurprising, saturation coverage of Olivia Newton-John's life and death. See here. And we see very little about Trump in the news these days. HiLo48 (talk) 05:52, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Interesting thought experiment -- if a former Canadian Prime Minister were having his house raided, would we blurb it? I'm assuming not. -- Rockstone 06:41, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
We have no requirements for "global impact" at WP:ITN and a specific note above about opposing because a story only relates to a single country. How is it these arguments are able to persist? --LaserLegs (talk) 09:26, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose This is part of a possible larger story related to Trump, but this one event is not the type of news to feature on the front page. --Masem (t) 03:39, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Wait a few days until we know if there’s an imminent indictment or not. If there’s not, I’ll support as a raid on a former president’s residence is completely unprecedented in US politics, and certainly notable enough to overcome “America-centrism.” The Kip (talk) 04:20, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • I don't think we're going to post anything short of an indictment of Trump. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:43, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose A very unusual event, but currently no evidence it will lead to anything more significant. If it does lead to anything, that event can instead be nominated for ITN. Lewis Hulbert (talk) 05:04, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Lewis Hulbert Just noting that this sort of thing is not done even with non-politicians unless the FBI/Department of Justice already has substantial evidence of a crime and knows what they will find when the warrant is executed. Twitter is full of lawyers saying they would advise clients who this happens to that charges are likely coming. 331dot (talk) 09:30, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose largely under the principle expressed by Muboshgu. This is part of a larger story. ITN consideration for any piece of this puzzle starts once this case is in court. This raid is just a highly-publicised fact-gathering mission. Not even sure there should be a published article on the raid yet - it's very possible nothing comes of it, and it would be more appropriate to publish such an article after more is known about said raid. DarkSide830 (talk) 05:51, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose until he is arrested/charged with a crime. This may be likely, but it must happen first. 331dot (talk) 09:28, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose article is at AfD and not overly notable.  Nixinova T  C   09:32, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose Maybe if Trump is charged with something. Steelkamp (talk) 09:34, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Weak Support the use of federal troops to attack a former leader is unheard of in Western democracies but perhaps unsurprising given that the Mueller Investigation was a years long multi-million dollar attack on Donald Trump that ultimately came up empty handed. --LaserLegs (talk) 09:35, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Herb Roedel

Article: Herb Roedel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): San Francisco Chronicle (via Legacy.com)
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Died on July 25, first reported today (August 8). BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:07, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

RD: Bill Graham

Article: Bill Graham (Canadian politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC
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Nominator's comments: Canadian politician, served in government and was interim Leader of the Opposition. Article is in fairly good shape, but likely needs some additional citations, as some sections are missing cites. Kaiser matias (talk) 00:25, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

RD: Zofia Posmysz

Article: Zofia Posmysz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Independent, HuffPost
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 Tractor Tyres (talk) 22:06, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Resistance fighter in World War II, Holocaust survivor, who wrote an audio play about her experiences in Auschwitz, which was turned into a play and an opera. The article, created by Edison and written mostly by Poeticbent and myself, seems in reasonable shape. I believe we should receive credit, but don't know where to put it. I would have nominated tomorrow, after consulting more obits. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

RD: Olivia Newton-John

Article: Olivia Newton-John (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP, BBC
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Nominator's comments: Singer-songwriter & actress who has passed away due to breast cancer, perhaps best known for starring in the film adaptation of Grease. Please note there is no blurb for this nomination. I accidentally put RD/Blurb instead of just RD. XxLuckyCxX (talk) 19:25, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

The source is a verified FB, but it's not been picked up by any news outlets (yet). EvergreenFir (talk) 19:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
It's starting to get around. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Parade is (so far) the highest quality source to report it. EvergreenFir (talk) 19:42, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
BBC reporting just now, so that should start the chain reaction for want of a better word XxLuckyCxX (talk) 19:44, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
See also Cosmopolitan, CNN and The NY Post XxLuckyCxX (talk) 19:46, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
I was F5-ing BBC, so yes, that's solid for me. Article has some clean up needed though. EvergreenFir (talk) 19:47, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb regardless of the discussion on the talk page, she really had only a few roles that made her significant, and the article failures to capture why she should be considered the top of her field. Articke is in poor quality (filmography etc needs refs) --Masem (t) 20:03, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
    Didn't mean to put it as a blurb, that is only there as a comment XxLuckyCxX (talk) 20:13, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Oppose Blurb per Masem MyriadSims (talk) 20:11, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Support Blurb She had a career of almost 60 years with many famous roles and awards, I think that is blurb worthy. -- Maykii (talk) 20:12, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Going by previous similar nominations, it isn't. Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:17, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

RD: Roger E. Mosley

Article: Roger E. Mosley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Magnum P.I. actor, who passed away in a tragic car crash aged 83. Article source to news of his death. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:08, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

RD: Leandro Lo

Article: Leandro Lo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Assasinated Shot this morning, sucessful world Ju-Jitsu champion. Article source to news of his death. Given he was an all-time great in the sport needs much longer article at least regarding his career. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:18, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Not Ready it is a stub at the moment Lewolka (talk) 18:42, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment I don't think "Assassinated" is quite the right verb here. Our own article says that's for "a head of state, head of government, politician, member of a royal family, or CEO", and I would even have my doubts about the final one in that list. HiLo48 (talk) 21:50, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Intentionally shot which would amount to murder although probably need to wait for the conclusion of the trial to assert. Abcmaxx (talk) 07:52, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

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RD: David McCullough

Article: David McCullough (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American historian. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 16:25, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

I added a citation for the audiobook statement; Let me know if you think that that citation will work as it is or if we should break it up into several citations. KConWiki (talk) 00:44, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Question: Can anyone with any concerns about this article's readiness please post comments about what they feel still needs work? Thanks to everyone for all they do for WP. KConWiki (talk) 04:29, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

RD: Eike Christian Hirsch

Article: Eike Christian Hirsch (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hannoversche Allgemeine
Credits:
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: German journalist and author Grimes2 (talk) 13:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

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(Closed) RD/Blurb: Archie Battersbee case

No consensus for a blurb. RD was suggested but the requirement is that there should be a biographical article, which this is not. Check elligibility for DYK. --Tone 20:01, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

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Article: Archie Battersbee case (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  12-year-old Archie Battersbee dies when his life support is withdrawn following a protracted legal case in England (Post)
News source(s): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-62346354
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Misplaced Pages article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.Nominator's comments: Significant legal case; UN involvement; significant press coverage in UK & overseas Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:58, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Support Stub, but notable. Grimes2 (talk) 14:02, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose blurb as unimportant. Oppose blurb or RD on quality grounds. In terms of a blurb, this is a human interest story hyped by British media, but objectively unimportant; lethal accidents of children and legal disputes about keeping comatose patients alive are relatively frequent. Even as a RD entry, the article is a mess and not ready for the main page. There is very little prose, all in the lead. The rest is WP:PROSELINE bullet points and a table of court decisions without context. Sandstein 14:42, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose in general, this doesn't appear to be a case with long-term repurcussions. But I will stress the Oppose on quality - an article that is basically a timeline rather than a discussion of the issues around this isn't going to be sufficient for main page (and the fact that hasn't been done here suggests that this doesnt have the impact suggested). --Masem (t) 14:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment To begin with, if it’s a stub it cannot be supported: the quality of the article is something fundamental for it to be included on the Main Page. And this one is far from being in good condition. The RS, moreover, do not consider it as a landmark decision, so it may seem that the impact and the notability of the case is rather mediatic than legal, juridical and medical. And it should be noted that the UN intervention is at the request of the family, not by the decision of the organization itself. I have my doubts that it is ITNR-worthy. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:44, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
An improved version is maybe candidate for RD. Grimes2 (talk) 14:48, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes, sure. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:50, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
...That's one hell of a misunderstanding of what happened. It's not sentencing someone to death if they're already dead... --Rockstone 00:21, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
LaserLegs, you're an American, right? This sounds alot like the Terri Schiavo case. Remember that? In neither case did the courts sentence anyone to death. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:43, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Schiavo's husband and legal guardian asked for the feeding tube to be removed in accordance with her wishes. In these cases, the children's primary caregivers - their parents - are being overruled by the courts and the children condemned to death. It's really quite abhorrent, really. Anyway I don't care if we post this or not, I just vaguely recalled a previous time UK courts ordered a child to die and shared the link to how it was handled that time. --LaserLegs (talk) 01:04, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
??? How is it being condemned to death? The children were not alive, their brains had stopped functioning. Crazy take. -- Rockstone 01:07, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Maybe read up on the case before commenting such absurd nonsense. The boy died in May from a catastrophic brain injury. The blood supply to his brain was cut off. His brain and other organs were necrotising.Polyamorph (talk) 06:44, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Laserlegs won't bother with the detail, he'll just see it as a chance to make specious claims against Brits. In the time it's taken me to write this sentence, there's a good chance another kid in Amurica has been shot to death. Pointless posturing. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:26, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
I see. Thanks Polyamorph (talk) 19:40, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
  • It's overdone in the UK and far from news, nobody wants to hear about it in the slightest. Not a bio so no RD, I am honestly surprised there is an article that merits keeping since there hasn't even been a novel legal approach (let alone a precedent set). Just some parents struggling to accept their kid's death not shutting up about it, coinciding with silly season. Kingsif (talk) 14:36, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
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(Closed) Escalation in the Gaza strip

Truce announced and article orange-tagged. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 19:03, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

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Article: Operation Breaking Dawn (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Israel launches Operation Breaking Dawn against the PIJ in the Gaza strip. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Israel kills a senior PIJ leader, launching Operation Breaking Dawn against PIJ forces in Gaza
Alternative blurb II: Airstrikes on the Gaza strip kill 44 amidst an Israeli military operation against PIJ forces.
News source(s): BBC, CNN, Al-Monitor
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And if the death toll is lower tomorrow? These things have been going in cycles for 70 years. HiLo48 (talk) 01:35, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Huh? I was referring to how the total death toll of the this military operation has reached a point where I think it's blurbworthy. Unless people already pronounced dead suddenly take breaths again, the death toll cannot go down. That the Israel-Palestine conflict has been ongoing for so long does not mean that the occasional escalations with very high death tolls are insignificant.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 02:19, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
HiLo48, if the death toll somehow goes lower tomorrow we are talking zombies and that warrants a blurb imo AdrianHObradors (talk) 10:21, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
No. We're simply talking about a failure to communicate. Maybe it's a difference between Australian English and whatever your version is. HiLo48 (talk) 11:50, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Official death tolls cannot decrease, as far as I know. It is physically impossible. Not sure what it is about Australian English that might render it otherwise. 🌈WaltCip-(talk) 16:34, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
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  • A Texas jury reaches a verdict against Alex Jones and orders that he pay $45.2 million in punitive damages to the parents of a 6-year-old boy killed in the 2012 Sandy Hook massacre for falsely claiming the shooting was a hoax. (Reuters)

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RD: Narender Thapa

Article: Narender Thapa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Indian footballer. Article has shaped into a start-class biography. Just meets the minimums for homepage / RD. RIP. Ktin (talk) 05:09, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Ali Haydar

Article: Ali Haydar (Syrian army officer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): (Syrian Observatory For Human Rights)
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Nominator's comments: Syrian deposed military officer. Article seems good. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

RD: Cherie Gil

Article: Cherie Gil (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Manila Times CNN Philippines
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Nominator's comments: Filipino actress. Jollibinay (talk) 11:10, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

RD: Judith Durham

Article: Judith Durham (talk · history · tag)
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News source(s): ABC, BBC, Guardian
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Nominator's comments: Australian singer, songwriter and musician who was lead singer of the Australian popular folk music group The Seekers HiLo48 (talk) 08:13, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

A false objection. Almost every "disc" is a Wikilink. Sourcing needs to be in those articles, not necessarily in this article. HiLo48 (talk) 22:34, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) Chinese military exercies around Taiwan

Consensus to post is unlikely to develop per WP:SNOW. HurricaneEdgar (talk) 08:13, 6 August 2022 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

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Proposed image Articles: 2022 Chinese military exercises around Taiwan (talk · history · tag) and 2022 visit by Nancy Pelosi to Taiwan (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ China conducts military exercises around Taiwan following Nancy Pelosi's visit to Taiwan (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Nancy Pelosi visits Taiwan and China responds with military exercises around the island
Alternative blurb II: China surrounds and invades Taiwan's territorial waters using military exercises in a notable escalation after Nancy Pelosi's visit.
News source(s): NYT, BBC, Jagran (India), USA Today, WSJ, Bild (Germany), El País (Spain), El Mundo (Spain)
Credits:
Article updatedNominator's comments: Constantly in the news. Linked sources all have the news on their front page, and have had it for a couple of days. AdrianHObradors (talk) 09:59, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment stop calling it "Nancy Pelosi's trip to Taiwan" it was a total of six exclusively Democrat members of congress who attended via US Airfore transport. We should post this, but the blurb needs to be adjusted. --LaserLegs (talk) 10:11, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
    I guess you can start with renaming the article then. 🌈  4🧚‍♂am KING 👑  10:16, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
    yep --LaserLegs (talk) 10:21, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Weak Oppose I think this might deserve a blurb, but the military exercises article is being considered for deletion and has problems, and the visit has already been discussed this week and wasn't posted. If it is to be posted, the exercises article should either be improved or merged. echidnaLives (talk) 12:05, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
    EchidnaLives the military exercise article was proposed for deletion as it was named before "Fourth Taiwan Strait Crisis". It has been moved, but and will probably stay. Still, I agree it should get resolved before the blurb gets posted, and could perhaps still get posted only with Nancy Pelosi's article. AdrianHObradors (talk) 12:18, 5 August 2022 (UTC); edited AdrianHObradors (talk) 12:24, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose Military exercises are not that rare (see for example this list). If things escalate and China invades Taiwan, that will surely deserve posting.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 12:08, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
    I think the difference is that this one is in direct response of an event, and all around Taiwan. I think if Russia decided to do a military exercise all around Hawaii, it would be news as well. AdrianHObradors (talk) 12:26, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Wait – So far it's just gunboat diplomacy, 21st century-style. – Sca (talk) 13:03, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Military exercises around Taiwan have unfortunately been a fact of life for the better part of the past 30 years. While it has escalated recently, these exercises have in the past waxed and waned. Most news articles are focusing on the outcome of Pelosi's Taiwan visit and only mention military exercises as a sort of follow-up or side article, rather than the main focal attention. If it does become a crisis or standoff, it should be titled as an actual "crisis" and re-nominated. 193.119.98.23 (talk) 13:14, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Weak support they invaded Taiwan's territorial waters and fired into them, encircling the whole island. This makes it very different to just a normal military exercise, it's the closest you can get to war without one. Abcmaxx (talk) 13:31, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Wait Still posturing in light of the Pelosi visit. Nothing new here. --Masem (t) 14:20, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose - This isn't a significant development, and the fact that one of the sample blurbs slips the reliable wiki-hooray-word 'notable' in there just shows how much of a reach this is. GenevieveDEon (talk) 18:52, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Wait -- this is in the news, but it's not blurb-worthy, and it may not be. -- Rockstone 20:25, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose Nothing notable here. Many countries, including my own, Australia, routinely conduct dick-rattling military exercises in that region. Until we get independent reports from reliable media in countries that aren't involved in such mine-is-bigger-than-yours activities, there is really nothing to report. HiLo48 (talk) 02:30, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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RD: Neil Castles

Article: Neil Castles (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NASCAR; CBS Sports; Deadline Hollywood
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 Bloom6132 (talk) 01:35, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) Brittney Griner

WP:SNOW. Virtually unanimous opposition; no chance of consensus to post.
Sca (talk) 19:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
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Article: Brittney Griner (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Brittney Griner is sentenced to nine years in prison in Russia for drug possession and smuggling. (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits: Nominator's comments: A major case in Russia involving a well known basketball star in the United States. Andise1 (talk) 15:37, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
The signficance comes from the fact that she is a US citizen (and a black lesbian) prominently detained in Russia just before its invasion of Ukraine. The potential for her to be used as a political bargaining chip, or treated badly because of her identity as distinct from her alleged offence, is relevant. I don't think the story currently merits ITN, but it would be naive to ignore the context. GenevieveDEon (talk) 18:00, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Oppose A high profile case sure, but not a particularly noteworthy sentence. Drug smuggling gets punished far worse in countries like Malaysia or Indonesia. 🌈  4🧚‍♂am KING 👑  16:00, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Other countries' severe punishments are not relevant to this case. GenevieveDEon (talk) 18:00, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
all im saying is for the crime committed, the punishment isn't particularly severe. 🌈  4🧚‍♂am KING 👑  19:03, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: Barry Downs (architect)

Article: Barry Downs (architect) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Globe and Mail
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Nominator's comments: Canadian architect. West coast modern architecture. Death announced in WP:RS on this date. I will work on expanding the article some more. Basic edits done. Rater.js says B-class, but, I think the article is a base C-class biography. Meets minimums for homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 19:42, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

RD/blurb: Olga Kachura

Article: Olga Kachura (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Alternative blurb: Olga Kachura, one of the founders of Donetsk People's Republic, is killed by Armed Forces of Ukraine
Alternative blurb II: ​ Lieutenant Colonel Olga Kachura is killed after Ukrainian missile strikes her car
News source(s): EuroWeeklyNews, El Mundo (Spain), The Telegraph (UK)
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 AdrianHObradors (talk) 15:57, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jack Deloplaine

Article: Jack Deloplaine (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Pittsburgh Post-Gazette; WBOY-TV; Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
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 Bloom6132 (talk) 08:16, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

RD: Johnny Famechon

Article: Johnny Famechon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/incredible-toughness-and-gracious-spirit-aussie-boxing-legend-johnny-famechon-dies-aged-77/news-story/c3f5cd81b5192cf6b55c6f8777a42ed1
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Nominator's comments: World featherweight boxing champion from Australia. Article needs a fair bit of work. Let's hope this nomination leads to that happening. HiLo48 (talk) 00:39, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Wait as per @HiLo48 says, article needs work. MyriadSims (talk) 18:29, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Jackie Walorski

Article: Jackie Walorski (talk · history · tag)
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 – Muboshgu (talk) 20:04, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Melissa Bank

Article: Melissa Bank (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times; The Washington Post; Associated Press; The Times of Israel
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 Bloom6132 (talk) 07:59, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Alastair Little

Article: Alastair Little (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Evening Standard, Eater London (imagine there will be a few more tomorrow)
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Nominator's comments: British chef, extremely influential on british food culture, and particularly the London restaurant scene. Article could do with an image (+ a lil citation cleanup maybe, I added a few) but is detailed + contains details of his death. Petsquirrel (talk) 21:29, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Vin Scully

Article: Vin Scully (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN, Los Angeles Times (via Twitter)
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Nominator's comments: Legendary baseball broadcaster. The Kip (talk) 03:43, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

RD: David Bawden

Article: David Bawden (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Funeral home obituary, The Lamp
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: The article is quite brief, but everything in it is sourced. gnu57 02:37, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

(Closed) US congressional delegation to Taiwan

Consensus to post is unlikely to develop.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:23, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

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Article: Nancy Pelosi (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ House Speaker of the United States, Nancy Pelosi visits Taiwan, becoming the first government official in 25 years to visit the country, straining relations between China and the United States. (Post)
News source(s): NY Times (paywalled), AP, Guardian, France24 (AFP), AlJazeera, CNN
Credits: Nominator's comments: Significant development in China, Taiwan, and the United States relations. Interstellarity (talk) 15:21, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose while the visit is stressing US / China / Taiwan relations, it is currently only posturing. There may be potential for a larger story (China has forces on the border for some military action) but until that happens, this is just a diplomatic visit. Masem (t) 15:39, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose, unless a significant incident actually happens, this is just saber rattling on both sides. Morgan695 (talk) 15:41, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
    Or rhetoric-rattling, perhaps. – Sca (talk) 15:55, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Wait... to see if anything of significance comes from this much-ballyhooed piece of political theater. – Sca (talk) 15:44, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose unless there's a major reaction from China. The proposed blurb is misleading: Pelosi is not a member of the US government - she's a legislator with no executive power. Even if she was, merely visiting and giving a speech isn't significant enough. If anything changes in Taiwan's relationship with China, that would be important. But a mere visit by a politician from a friendly nation isn't enough. Modest Genius 15:57, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
    The United States Congress is very much a member of the US government. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:29, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose it's not really clear that relations are strained or that Pelosi's visit is significant as yet. Yes, it is in the news, but I oppose the current blurb and descriptive theme Andrevan@ 16:00, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose - its a visit by a lone congressperson (sure in the line of succession but still has no say on US policy wrt China or Taiwan). nableezy - 16:02, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
  • Weak support Per LaserLegs. It is significant enough though to be on the front page of Spanish newspaper // El Mundo//, with an update saying China sends a destroyer off the coast of Taiwan in view of Pelosi's visit. (Translation from Google) --AdrianHObradors (talk) 16:10, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Oppose - Unless anything significant happens, the rest is just sabre rattling, at any rate this is premature and not different from any other diplomatic event affecting relations between two countries. 🌈  4🧚‍♂am KING 👑  16:17, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
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