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This is just a thought but what about "FBI raid of Mar-a-Lago? ]<sup>]</sup> 19:38, 9 August 2022 (UTC) This is just a thought but what about "FBI raid of Mar-a-Lago? ]<sup>]</sup> 19:38, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

:Just leave it. Once it becomes clear which witch hunt this is associated with (the Jan 6 mostly peaceful protest, the document fiasco, IDK what other Democrat concoction) then the move should be to that article and most of this a section in it. If that's known now, then that's what the move ought be --] (]) 21:40, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


==Merge to Mar-a-Lago== ==Merge to Mar-a-Lago==

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this article needs a sourced rewrite

as this eventually becomes a featured article and a political science touchstone, you might as well get on it. Saintstephen000 (talk)— Preceding undated comment added 18:21, 9 August 2022

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Is "raid" the most commonly used term to describe this? I'm seeing a lot of sources using the term "search". 331dot (talk) 09:37, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

No. RS call it a search. When they use "raid", they are quoting Trump. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 13:30, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

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Raid of Mar-a-Lago → FBI search of Mar-a-Lago – Are any sources calling this a raid(other than Trump and sources reporting his quote)? 331dot (talk) 12:13, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

I am reluctant to just SNOW close this completely but there is clear early support, to say that it should be moved. However, this is an event that remains fluid and could have further developments (in other words how sources are describing it today may change with-in the 7 days of this RM). Further the discussion has literally only been open a few hours so while I am going to action a move based on the discussion so far - the move improves the encyclopedia - I would suggest discussion should continue for at least a while longer - and perhaps a full 7 days - to establish a firmer consensus. Note: a different editor performed this move while I was typing this close but had that not happened I would have done it after submitting this. Barkeep49 (talk) 18:25, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

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Support. I've even seen a legal analyst specifically arguing against calling this a "raid": "...the FBI executed a search warrant at Trump’s residence, Mar-a-Lago. Not a raid. No crashing in of doors or destruction of property. This is a judicially authorized proceeding, in which a federal judge independently reviews an FBI agent’s sworn affidavit and must conclude they agree that there is probable cause for the search." https://joycevance.substack.com/p/search-a-lago Brad (talk) 17:38, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
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Discussion of close

Page has been moved back to its original name. Pinging @Pennsylvania2:. While a user did prematurely move the page, Barkeep mentions they would have done the move had the user not. Not sure if you saw this post by them on the talk page or not. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:38, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

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This is just a thought but what about "FBI raid of Mar-a-Lago? Iamreallygoodatcheckers 19:38, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Just leave it. Once it becomes clear which witch hunt this is associated with (the Jan 6 mostly peaceful protest, the document fiasco, IDK what other Democrat concoction) then the move should be to that article and most of this a section in it. If that's known now, then that's what the move ought be --LaserLegs (talk) 21:40, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Merge to Mar-a-Lago

No, we already had this discussion in the deletion discussion. Let's not beat a dead horse. (non-admin closure) --Rockstone 18:43, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

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TBH, this entire page should be merged into the Mar-a-Lago page. GoodDay (talk) 16:56, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

oppose merge event is notable in and of itself. Andre🚐 17:10, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Support — Too early to make a dedicated page for this. Such an event can and should be merged until its contents distract from the actual content. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 17:22, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
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Better photo

Can we get a better photo for the infobox? Any pics of the place during the night of the raid, with police cars outside? Koopatrev (talk; contrib) 21:14, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

That would be the ideal photo. Right now, only shots that would be similar would be from local news media sources, but those aren't free use. I suppose they could be claimed under Fair Use, but that's not my expertise. Pictures from DOJ are going to eventually come out though and we can use those. Any have any suggestions for now? Pennsylvania2 (talk) 21:17, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
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