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We should write our views of the situation with the proof to show the degree of frustration which Uber and we all are suffering. If we cannot save Uber from this injustice, WMC and company will simply extend this witch hunt to all who do not support their POV. We should write our views of the situation with the proof to show the degree of frustration which Uber and we all are suffering. If we cannot save Uber from this injustice, WMC and company will simply extend this witch hunt to all who do not support their POV.
Thanks, -- ] 00:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC) Thanks, -- ] 00:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

:Brittainia, I really do sympathise with you. I have seen perfectly reasonable changes simply wiped by this bunch of thugs. This fiasco has not only altered my whole perception of the risks of global warming, it has altered my perception of the neutrality of Misplaced Pages. When you have one side with professional lobbyists spending all day everyday changing articles to suit their case and on the other side a few odd-balls who not only don't have the time but don't have the experience to fight these professional lobbyists, it is a completely uneven fight and the result is so obviously biased it is a joke. I'm sorry I can't do more to help, I reached the conclusion there is no point trying to be a neutral editor on the articles because the "gang" just come along and ignoring everyone else change it back to their own POV.

:Paradoxically if you are "anti-" you might do better to let the "pro-" camp get on with it without opposition, because the more POV the article the less likely anyone is to believe it. However, I'm really pissed off with them, because I (used to) think that global warming was an important issue and I know we aren't doing nearly enough to stop it - and all they are doing is making more people sceptical - including me - in fact I ought to thank Mr Connolley because by his actions he has done me a favour - he has convinced me it is a much less important issue than I once thought, a few degrees of warming isn't going to hurt many and it will actually do a lot of good, so what's the point arguing about it! There are much more important issues! ] 11:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

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Carnegie of Finhaven

Do you think you could more correctly marks the parts copied from Domestic Annals or rewrite the whole thing. You've just cut and pasted chunks from the book. It reads like it was written in 1850! --Trieste 12:08, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Shoes

Regarding your inquiry regarding shoes hanging from things, This may be of interest to you. Dylan Lake (t·c·ε) 07:27, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for fighting this insidious Censorship

Mike, I appreciate the work you have done against enormous odds. The way William M. Connolley and his crew of censors work is infuriating. You are absolutely correct that they completely disregard NPOV as we can clearly read above. I have also had a great deal of work and effort destroyed arbitrarily by this group trying to chase ANY dissenting contributors out of the GW debate. As an example they will not even allow the simple fact: "However, there remain respected scientists who hold differing opinions." Here is the history of what they did when I tried to keep that tiny mention of other views in the GW article:

  1. 17:10, 21 February 2007 Vsmith (Talk | contribs) (if "repected scientists disagree" - provide valid source)
  2. (cur) (last) 17:05, 21 February 2007 Rameses (Talk | contribs) (←Undid revision 109846090 by BozMo (talk) You cannot censor the simple fact that some scientists hold other views)
  3. (cur) (last) 17:00, 21 February 2007 BozMo (Talk | contribs) m (Reverted edits by Brittainia (talk) to last version by Hu12)
  4. (cur) (last) 16:48, 21 February 2007 Brittainia (Talk | contribs) (NPOV - still worth mentioning there are scientists with other views)

Their actions are equivalent to the burning of books in Germany and other totalitarian states. However we cannot give up, we must continue to fight for a NPOV in Misplaced Pages. The only alternative would be to give up using Misplaced Pages altogether. Good luck and thanks for your hard work - it truly is appreciated by us older Wikipedians. Rameses 17:28, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Rameses - Some people are their own worst enemy. It's very easy to see when an argument is being skewed and contrary views squashed - the public aren't stupid, and this is probably why there is so much skeptism about global warming. All they are achieving is to ensure that people won't believe what they are being told. Far from convincing people, this type of behaviour does the opposite and taints those sensible people who do agree with the science with the aspect of a "bunch of religious nutters". I'm beginning to wonder whether some of them may not be working for an oil company with the sole purpose of bringing the whole global warming consensus into disrepute. Mike 17:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I have copied this to my evidence gathering location. -- Tony of Race to the Right 14:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Tony, you should make a user subpage, as I did with with User:UBeR/WMC, for example. ~ UBeR 19:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
I retract that--it may get you banned. ~ UBeR 22:31, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Now they are trying to delete Solar system warming too!

Now Raymond Arritt and William M Connolley are trying to eradicate the Solar system warming article. I am sick and tired of this continuing censorship. If you agree with me, go and vote to save this article. Thanks, ~ Rameses 04:26, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Rameses, thanks for pointing that out. I'm really saddened by the whole atmosphere around the global warming articles. Far from being the "anti-" lobby as I had originally assumed, in fact the pro- lobby are clearly breaking the spirit of Misplaced Pages and attacking every article with which they disagree. These people are the modern equivalent of the catholic inquisition. Mike 09:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


Someone should have caught it before it passed the speedy deletion deadline

Here is evidence of more people who are willing to delete articles to stop people reading and deciding for themselves - from User talk:Michaelbusch:=I think you'll enjoy this one=

Solar system warming Someguy1221 04:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Pretty bad. Someone should have caught it before it passed the speedy deletion deadline. Michaelbusch 04:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Is it possible to get NPOV on Misplaced Pages against these tactics? ~ Rameses 05:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Uber is being reviewed

Mike, I just got this message from Uber, he needs our help: Hello, friend. I'd like to inform you of the attacks and claims made by Raul654 to the administrator noticeboard regarding my actions. I whole heartedly believe my actions are just and warranted. Please review the current situation. Thank you. ~ UBeR 23:31, 28 February 2007 (UTC) We should write our views of the situation with the proof to show the degree of frustration which Uber and we all are suffering. If we cannot save Uber from this injustice, WMC and company will simply extend this witch hunt to all who do not support their POV. Thanks, -- Brittainia 00:07, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Brittainia, I really do sympathise with you. I have seen perfectly reasonable changes simply wiped by this bunch of thugs. This fiasco has not only altered my whole perception of the risks of global warming, it has altered my perception of the neutrality of Misplaced Pages. When you have one side with professional lobbyists spending all day everyday changing articles to suit their case and on the other side a few odd-balls who not only don't have the time but don't have the experience to fight these professional lobbyists, it is a completely uneven fight and the result is so obviously biased it is a joke. I'm sorry I can't do more to help, I reached the conclusion there is no point trying to be a neutral editor on the articles because the "gang" just come along and ignoring everyone else change it back to their own POV.
Paradoxically if you are "anti-" you might do better to let the "pro-" camp get on with it without opposition, because the more POV the article the less likely anyone is to believe it. However, I'm really pissed off with them, because I (used to) think that global warming was an important issue and I know we aren't doing nearly enough to stop it - and all they are doing is making more people sceptical - including me - in fact I ought to thank Mr Connolley because by his actions he has done me a favour - he has convinced me it is a much less important issue than I once thought, a few degrees of warming isn't going to hurt many and it will actually do a lot of good, so what's the point arguing about it! There are much more important issues! Mike 11:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
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