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| == Yadav Vs Ahir modifications == | |||
| The facts mentioned in the Ahir taken a false identitiy of Yadav is incorrect. | |||
| And these false informations are propogated in recently publised books, which no authority in subject. | |||
| The book contents are based on news paper articles and courts records, whose validities are as genuine as a lawyer's statement. | |||
| Let me know, which part is objectionable in the below content of ], which u feel to modify. | |||
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| - The British census in 1881, half century before any ] movement, the census mentions Yadavas as Ahirs & Goalis. It says <b> "The Yadavas, who in their turn are identified with the Gaolis and Ahirs, were the dominant race at that time. Hemadpant, the temple builder, was the minister of Ramchandra, the Yadava ruler of Deogiri, in the 13th century.</b>"<ref>http://www.chaf.lib.latrobe.edu.au/dcd/page.php?title=&record=389</ref> | |||
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| - However, most books publiced as recently as 2001, 2005, propogates the dubious theories generated based on old new paper articles and court records, that present day Yadav caste is merely renamed ]s who switched their identity in 1922 to Yadav as part of ] movement of certain Hindu castes. <ref>The politics of the urban poor in early twentieth-century India, Page 205, Nandini Gooptu, Cambridge University , Press, 2001 </ref><ref>Land tenure and peasant in South Asia, Page 198, Robert Eric Frykenberg, Manohar, 1984 </ref><ref>Caste and race in India, Page 450, G.S. Ghurye, Popular Prakashan, 2005 </ref><ref>Caste and the Indian Army, Economic Weekly, 1439-1443 August 29 1964 </ref><ref>The tribes and castes of West Bengal , page 35, Asok Mitra, Alipore, West Bengal : West Bengal Government Press, 1953 </ref> | |||
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| : IPAddress fella, Go and read ancient vedas and Purans like Vayu purana, Padam Puran, Bhavishya purana, before commenting anything worth credibility on Yadav Vs Ahir. The books published in post independence(2001,2005, an ugly vulgar joke in the name of historical research and analysis) and nothing but crap political propaganda and must never be a reference for anything. Cambridge publication in UK, can not be a certificate for authenticity. | |||
| : The mouth-peice of Indian social/political claims are vedas and puranas. No vedas and puranas mentions about any crap_hidden_bongala_bandhu books like Manu-Smrity. | |||
| : In India everybody read/listen/knows Vedas and Puranas, stories from ages. What comes out of ] was nothing more the a firm stand on what we always believed about ourself. All the puranas like Padam, Vayu, Bhavisya, Mahabharat are apt proof of same. | |||
| ::<b>Padma Purana, where Vishnu informed Abhiras, "I shall be born among you, O Abhiras, at Mathura in my eighth birth". </b> | |||
| :Individuals starts going so low in discussion that idiotic claims like Ahir are not Abhira. ] (]) 20:21, 27 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
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