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| :''What else to say? If whitewashing the ethincity of many people is a "content dispute", then calling African Americans "niggers", "porch monkeys" etc. (kind of vandalism I frequently revert) is a content dispute, too. :( '' | :''What else to say? If whitewashing the ethincity of many people is a "content dispute", then calling African Americans "niggers", "porch monkeys" etc. (kind of vandalism I frequently revert) is a content dispute, too. :( '' | ||
| Are you saying that changing the description of a footballer from "professional Hungarian footballer from Slovakia" to "professional slovak footballer" is the equivalent of calling a black person a "porch monkey?" ] 18:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | Are you saying that changing the description of a footballer from "professional Hungarian footballer from Slovakia" to "professional slovak footballer" is the equivalent of calling a black person a "porch monkey?" ] 18:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
| :Yes. As as I said before, you don't live in Central Europe and you will never understand that. - ] 20:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| ::I think that is very clear on the subject. <small>]<sup>(Need help? ])</sup></small> 18:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | ::I think that is very clear on the subject. <small>]<sup>(Need help? ])</sup></small> 18:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
| # Yes, you don't know him. He is a ''cause celebre'' in the Czech Rep.. I think someone sentenced ''in absentia'' by his own democratic country could be also refered to as vandal. | |||
| # Some of them surely yes. When I am blocking IPs for vandalism like (niggers, bitches, gays, you suck etc.), I often add to the explanation something similar which should make them think about themselves, e.g. "You suck." But I see the definition of vandal is getting more and more blurred. Surely, insulting normal users is a crime. | |||
| # I wasn't aware of that before, really. All the time I am here people are saying to me it is forbidden. I was also bashed by removing ordinary messages from my talk page. | |||
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Darwinek's response re:Mt7
- What else to say? If whitewashing the ethincity of many people is a "content dispute", then calling African Americans "niggers", "porch monkeys" etc. (kind of vandalism I frequently revert) is a content dispute, too. :(
Are you saying that changing the description of a footballer from "professional Hungarian footballer from Slovakia" to "professional slovak footballer" is the equivalent of calling a black person a "porch monkey?" Thatcher131 18:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yes. As as I said before, you don't live in Central Europe and you will never understand that. - Darwinek 20:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Darwinek's response re: Ross.Hedvicek
- But he is a pure vandal with no positive contribution to Misplaced Pages and I see NO problem with insulting vandals. They insult our community with their behaviour. Block was caused by his persistent removal of official Misplaced Pages warning from his talk page.
- Do you really believe that Ross, who has been an editor for more than a year and has 500 edits, is a vandal?
- Will you clarify that you believe it is OK to insult vandals?
- Are you aware that removing warnings from one's own user page is not considered vandalism? (see below)
- Misplaced Pages:Centralized discussion/Removing warnings
- On a user's own talk page, policy does not prohibit the removal of comments at that user's discretion, although archival is preferred to removal.
- Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive138#Need Advice
- Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive139#User:NuclearUmpf removing talk page comments accusing others of AGF
- Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive143#Travb
Thatcher131 18:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- It is not okay to insult vandals, WP:NPA makes that clear when it says "The prohibition against personal attacks applies equally to all Wikipedians. It is as unacceptable to attack a user with a history of foolish or boorish behavior, or even one who has been subject to disciplinary action by the Arbitration Committee, as it is to attack any other user."
- I think that is very clear on the subject. InBC 18:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, you don't know him. He is a cause celebre in the Czech Rep.. I think someone sentenced in absentia by his own democratic country could be also refered to as vandal.
- Some of them surely yes. When I am blocking IPs for vandalism like (niggers, bitches, gays, you suck etc.), I often add to the explanation something similar which should make them think about themselves, e.g. "You suck." But I see the definition of vandal is getting more and more blurred. Surely, insulting normal users is a crime.
- I wasn't aware of that before, really. All the time I am here people are saying to me it is forbidden. I was also bashed by removing ordinary messages from my talk page.