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Hi! Since you've been dealing with the sockpuppet stuff lately, ] of ] is back to vandalizing again. Or at least, the one edit since the last block is the same vandalism that was being done before. Any chance something more long-term can be done, so it doesn't keep popping up every few days? Thanks, ] 05:37, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | Hi! Since you've been dealing with the sockpuppet stuff lately, ] of ] is back to vandalizing again. Or at least, the one edit since the last block is the same vandalism that was being done before. Any chance something more long-term can be done, so it doesn't keep popping up every few days? Thanks, ] 05:37, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Thanks. Will do, already ran through the other IPs, seems they've at least been quite since the early spats. -] 05:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | :Thanks. Will do, already ran through the other IPs, seems they've at least been quite since the early spats. -] 05:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
==Re: ]== | |||
I am sorry to say that you and Ryan Postlethwaite are very naive re the above user and his cadre of pro-] supporters and/or former volunteers. Do you think he is going to change his username? Do you think they care what anyone else thinks or feels? It is absurd that no consensus could be reached for at least the second time. Don't you realize that they act in concert??!! | |||
For example, see below from ]'s talk page: | |||
*''While the recent RFCN discussion to require you to change your username reached no consensus, I encourage you to do so in any case. Your username may inhibit your ability to work with some other editors. If you wish to keep the contributions and userpages from this account, you can easily do so by filing a request at WP:CHU. Seraphimblade Talk to me 02:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)'' | |||
*''Congratulations! One Night In Hackney303 11:31, 4 April 2007 (UTC)'' | |||
*''I will add my congrats a chara! --Vintagekits 13:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)'' | |||
They canvass each other to vote on matters important to them; they share info. on their Noticeboard and Project pages, etc. Those who genuinely act in good faith are pitifully disorganized. If Misplaced Pages had not been corrupted already someone like ] would have been blocked indefinitely by now. You blokced me for 48 hours for using sockpuppets (and I thank you for not making it a longer block as you might have done). I know I did something unacceptable, but I was driven to it because I am tired of being victimized by this gang who put their pro-IRA themes, topics, agendas, etc. and get Wikipedian validation. On ]'s discussion page he references Trinity College, Dublin and "Huns", a pejorative word for Protestants; why isn't he blocked for this hatemongering? | |||
There is only relentless refusal to abide by the rules everyone else follows, and the inevitable humiliating defeat for their opponents or "enemies". What they want is everything their own way and what they are willing to concede voluntarily is close to nil. I wonder if a User could user the name say '''Osama's Watching''' or '''Al Qaeda underling''' or '''Hamas Hashemite''' or '''Taigkiller''' or some other offensive, terrorist-related username. I think we both know the answer to that, and to pretend the IRA is not as terroristic an organization as any other is revisionism.] 20:49, 5 April 2007 (UTC) |
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A request of CheckUser was deleted by his friend Admin
A request of CheckUser regarding him and Pernambuco was deleted by Khoikhoi in BAD FAITH (an admin friend with a meat and sockpuppet master Mauco):
http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Pernambuco/Polaron/William_Mauco/MarkStreet
Still, Mauco was a sockpuppeter that was found by Dcmevit. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.160.43.14 (talk) 18:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC).
90.240.150.96
Not content with submitting this baseless 3RR report against me, 90.240.150.96 also found the time to leave this equally ridiculous accusation of vandalism on my talk page. Should I simply delete the notice? I would appreciate your advice as an administrator. Kanaye 23:30, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks. Kanaye 23:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Socks
No problem, there's a whole load of similarities I could find if I had the time but it doesn't really achieve much as if the account did start getting used again a new checkuser would be possible anyway. Thanks. One Night In Hackney303 00:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, one thing you might be able to help me with, or possibly point me in the right direction. A couple of weeks ago the possibility of resurrecting the Patrick Kelly article was raised as there's possibility for expansion. It was merged per Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Patrick Kelly where three of the four delete !votes were from the same editor and socks, but according to this DRV log merges are an editorial decision anyway, so it wouldn't be necessary to take it to DRV to recreate the article. However the Patrick Kelly page has now been rightly changed to a disambiguation page, and I know there will be GFDL problems if I just copy and paste the old article into a new page. Would it be possible for you to do a history merge to say Patrick Kelly (Irish republican) please? One Night In Hackney303 00:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- Have done, thanks for the help. One Night In Hackney303 01:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
User:Flatts and his "kick your butt" threats
Much of Flatts's edits are based on what SpongeBob SquarePants character Flatts Flounder said in the episode "The Bully." Squirepants101 02:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Admin status
I remember your try in December for Admin status --for not so nice reasons (i.e. guilty feelings about an edit ) Any case, nice to see that you've become an admin. :) Nephron T|C 02:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Possible confusion
Hi, I noticed your "oppose" edit here that seems to say that I blocked you at some time in the past. Possibly I misunderstood what you were saying. Either that, or you have confused me with someone else, since I am not an administrator. FNMF 10:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Right. My mistake. Feel free to delete these two messages from your talk page. FNMF 10:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Places with City status in Scotland
The fourth revert by User:Kanaye was 24 hours and 24 minutes after the first. User:90.240.150.96 reverted two of these edits and I reverted another two, so why are both User:Kanaye and User:90.240.150.96 warned, rather than just User:Kanaye? 163.167.129.124 11:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- Because all of you are involved in an edit war, and edit wars never solve anything. I've seen hundreds of them, and not once did they solve an issue. Dispute resolution, discussion, that solves problems. 3RR doesn't mean "edit-warring is an acceptable tactic as long as it's less than 3 times a day", and in the end, it's bad for everyone involved. Edit warring is time wasted on inflaming the dispute that could be spent solving it! (By the way, why don't you register an account? You're obviously interested in editing and know the place pretty well, I'm responding here since IPs are changeable sometimes. An account hides your IP too.) Seraphimblade 11:37, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking the time to reply. Please also see the talk page and history at Template:Scottish_Cities. User:Kanaye has been involved in a long-standing edit war over this. I have not. The format of this template must however be consistent with Template:UK_cities, which appears at the foot of all articles for UK cities. Cheers anyway, 163.167.129.124 11:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
"ny bare votes probably won't be counted much anyway"
Others involved seem to think the vote-count is more significant. PS: Sorry for the sarky tone earlier; I was in need of WP:TEA. — SMcCandlish ツ 11:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Assist
Advertise it a lot, I guess. WP:GO, WP:VP, WP:CENT. Also, it may help to stick it in the help desk header, or the village pump header, or {{welcome}}. >Radiant< 12:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Editor assistance
Thanks for clarifying; it wasn't totally clear whether the project was active or not. Since the AMA survived its MfD, is this still meant to be a replacement for the AMA, or a co-existing alternative? And is there any prohibition against me being a member of both organisations concurrently? Walton 16:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- Following up on our conversation earlier, I designed a new userbox for the project, as there didn't seem to be one. It's at Template:User Editor Assistance. Walton 17:23, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
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- Should we also create a "Category:Editor Assistance Wikipedians", like there is for other Misplaced Pages projects? It might also be helpful to transclude the members' list on to the main project page. Walton 19:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
I'd like to thank you for your moral support at the most recent RfAr regarding Billy Ego's fascism-related userspace content. Your comment was much appreciated. Sandstein 19:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
AMA case
This one was filed a while ago, and JzG weighed in with some observations based on what had happened and the editor seems reasonably happy and hasn't edited since. I've written a rebuttal on the talk page pointing out what a wholly incorrect version of events it is. I had the Robert I. Coulter page undeleted for the purposes of this which could do with deleting again really, is there any chance of you having a quick look at the case and seeing what needs doing if anything? Thanks. One Night In Hackney303 19:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure really, I thought it might be slightly presumptious to recommend closing a case I'm involved it. If you're happy with my version of events you could delete the re-created page, as it doesn't really want to be hanging around indefintely. 20:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- The Robert I. Coulter was specifically undeleted for the AMA case, if you check the history you can see the older versions of the article. Without that article being undeleted I couldn't show that the politician was in fact there first, as this diff shows. If you're happy that's an accurate version of events that article can be deleted again now. One Night In Hackney303 20:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure Guy was involved, except to the extent that he knew about the situation having moved the article back in March and deleted the redirects. I asked him to undelete the article for the AMA case, and having some knowledge of organ makers and suchlike he decided to post some comments. He's quite happy for the article to be deleted again as this diff shows, I just thought it best to see if anything should be done regarding the case, and at least make sure an AMA member had seen the actual version of what happened. Thanks. One Night In Hackney303 23:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Help
Hello Seraphim. I'm User:AlexCovarrubias. I have sent you an e-mail requesting your help. Please check your inbox or go to my talk page. Alex. (I told a friend to paste this msg in your usertalk because I'm blocked).
Userspace
Hi, you mentioned here that userspace edits are extempt from 3RR and the users are allowed to remove comments from their own talkpages. I have no connection to this particular case but since an editor removed my comments from his talkpage I was wondering what the policies/guidelines are on this. Any link to official rules would be much appreciated (I tried googling but didn't find anything specific). Thank you Mackan 19:43, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
ProhibitOnions
I have undone your 3RR block of ProhibitOnions, as he neither had 3 reverts nor was edit warring. He was in a dispute, proposed a compromise wording, then reverted some edits mostly unrelated to the dispute. I don't get why it helps to block him in this case when a warning would have probably had a better effect. Kusma (talk) 20:43, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, should probably have consulted you first; I thought you were away but I forgot that I'm two hours away from UTC now that we're back in daylight saving and so I should have not taken the shortcut... anyway, back to the count: the first "revert" was not a reversion to PO's version, but apparently he noticed something he thought was wrong and changed it. The second "revert" is immediately followed up by a compromise wording that reintroduces the contentious term. Reverts three and four are indeed simple reverts. Which leaves us with two reverts. Together with talk page discussion happening that doesn't look like a simple edit war that needs to be stopped by a block to me. Kusma (talk) 21:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Checkuser case closed
Hi, your request for checkuser was completed. You can find it in the archives for 7 days at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser/IP_check/Archive#Ararat_arev. -- lucasbfr 22:42, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking into this by the way (above), I think that the situation at both Turkey and Armenia is dire, particularly for the former - it is the third time the article had to be fully protected in ten days. I have four sources (trivial stuff like latest economic figures) and two images that I will use to update Turkey, but every single time I login to Misplaced Pages, there seems to be a horrible revert-war going on if the article is not full protected. Do you have any idea on what can be done? Cheers! Baristarim 01:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, I just checked checkuser, if it returns I will let you know. Sorry for taking your time.. Baristarim 01:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! Baristarim 01:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- I have no idea how he did it, but he is already back at Armenia with the same old!! At the least maybe a semi-protect would be a good idea since he seems to be using IPs (for the moment).. His perseverance is amazing. As for the earlier AN/I post, no problems - many users had had enough and felt that something had to be done because work was seriously being disrupted - the least being the time wasted on reverts.. cheers! Baristarim 02:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
RFCN closing
Thanks for stepping up and taking care of it - I know it wasn't easy. RJASE1 01:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeh from me too, no-one else was prepared to do it Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 07:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Your recent actions at RFCN
Hi! I saw that you recently closed Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/User names/Fenian Swine. You didn't seem to mention how you arrived at your decision and I feel one is warranted given the lengthy discussion that took place. What factors did you take into account, which comments did you disregard, how did you apply the username policy, and are you aware of the term and its meaning? gaillimh 02:04, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Also, I noticed that you took only six minutes between edits when you closed this discussion. Did it only take you six minutes to read through the entire discussion, it's talk page, and then determine the proper course of action? gaillimh 02:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Please explain why you feel as though there's no consensus on the page itself. It's quite clear that the username violates Misplaced Pages policy, and since you're a new admin, it's expected that you'll make early mistakes. I just wish you didn't make this one, hehe. Cheers and good luck with your new buttons! gaillimh 02:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Hehe, no, the username is most definitely a slur. I provided not only a detailed description, but also external references to support this notion. In fact, one only needs to check out Fenian and use one's own commonsense regarding the word "swine" to realise this, mate gaillimh 02:38, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Please explain why you feel as though there's no consensus on the page itself. It's quite clear that the username violates Misplaced Pages policy, and since you're a new admin, it's expected that you'll make early mistakes. I just wish you didn't make this one, hehe. Cheers and good luck with your new buttons! gaillimh 02:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Wow. That's all. Just wow.TortureIsWrong 03:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Measuring consensus
May I ask how you measured consensus in the "Fenian Swine" case?
From my point of view, the "disallow" position held up the words Fenian and Swine to WP:USERNAME#Slurs and found them in clear violation of policy, while the "allow" position used non-policy arguments (such as a good editing history means we should allow the username). As I understand "consensus" on Misplaced Pages, policy arguments outweigh non-policy arguments, and "vote count" is irrelevant. So I simply do not understand a "no consensus" closing here. Please, lead me through the reasoning here. Thank you. -- Ben /HIST 02:04, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for your kind reply on my talk page. -- Ben /HIST 02:34, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Chambersburg
Sorry about the delay in reply. I was at a hotel and it used a proxy which was blocked on Misplaced Pages to access the internet. It wasn't worth it to as for a auto-unblocked because I was only there a few days. Anyways, I was wondering if you could help pull the article up to the WP:CITY standard for a city. I would like to get the article to a FA rating eventually, but for now GA will work. Thank you! Wǐkǐɧérṃǐť(Talk) (Contributions) 03:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Ararat arev
I heard he was a programmer or something, but we'll have to see. BTW, you're aware that he hacks into old accounts because their passwords are the same as the usernames, right? See :
You got it now?/??? Its me , go check 100 the password is 100
go check k9 its k9 etc etc
Go check those have the same passwords for those in the Armenia edit history
Khoikhoi 03:09, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- I also heard he's a regular contributor to Stormfront, but someone will have to verify that one. Khoikhoi 03:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Check your email. :-) Khoikhoi 03:24, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks by the way, your help is appreciated. Baristarim 05:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
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Deletion of Adult_Porn_Link_Lists.html
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please note that the article Adult_Porn_Link_Lists.html brings together, and adds to, concepts touched upon in many articles related to the on-line pornography world, such as: Internet_pornography.html, Free_Hosted_Galleries.html, Pay_per_click.html, Affiliate_networks.html, Affiliate_marketing.html, and many others. While, like many other articles, it does need work to fit Misplaced Pages criteria, it provides crucial information.
IIRC, I had even done a Misplaced Pages Search for 'link list' in the hope of finding an article which touched upon this aspect, but found no related articles! This was done during its Proposed Deletion period, IIRC.
I agree that it is essentially a link exchange. However, the article covers a particular manifestation of the larger concept. An analogy would be deletion of 'Method Acting' because it falls under 'Acting.'
Initially, I thought of suggesting that the title remain as a link to Link_Exchange.html. However, the original article provides much more information for its field than does the conceptual article. So I would suggest that the deletion be reverted.
P00r 05:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Billy Ego-Sandstein
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Help needed Re: User:Hamsacharya dan reported by User:Watchtower Sentinel
Greetings Seraphimblade! Our 3RR/Edit Warring complaint is already in its second day pending and that is why I felt compelled to respectfully solicit your attention. Please take a look at it. No need to reply. Feel free to delete this message after you have read it. Thank you in advance. - Sentinel 14:50, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
User RfC on an editor you blocked
There is currently a user RfC going on for User:Martinphi, at which he has disputed the 3RR block he was given and insisted that his policy violations were justified and that he has done nothing wrong (these comments are on the RfC talk page). Since you were the blocking admin, I thought you should know and might want to respond to his comments. Thanks. Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Martinphi --Minderbinder 14:59, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
WP:ASSIST
Concerning the earlier discussion on the talkpage, are we going to have a formal position of co-ordinator for WP:ASSIST? IMHO it might be better to have one or two clerks, who will deal with the backlog of requests and (where necessary) assign them to an assistant, and will serve as a point of contact for the organisation. "Clerk" sounds less status-driven than "co-ordinator" and is less likely to put people off. Just an idea. Btw I think you deserve this... Walton 15:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
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To Seraphimblade, for hard work in getting the Misplaced Pages:Editor assistance project off the ground. Walton 15:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC) |
Your work at WP:RFCN
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For closing a very contentious WP:RFCN ruling. Well done! - Alison 18:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC) |
I didn't necessarily agree with your conclusions, but your handling of it was awesome. Well done :) - Alison 18:02, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Re-block
Hi! Since you've been dealing with the sockpuppet stuff lately, one of the socks of Neemaz is back to vandalizing again. Or at least, the one edit since the last block is the same vandalism that was being done before. Any chance something more long-term can be done, so it doesn't keep popping up every few days? Thanks, Bbik 05:37, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. Will do, already ran through the other IPs, seems they've at least been quite since the early spats. -Bbik 05:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Re: User:Fenian Swine
I am sorry to say that you and Ryan Postlethwaite are very naive re the above user and his cadre of pro-PIRA supporters and/or former volunteers. Do you think he is going to change his username? Do you think they care what anyone else thinks or feels? It is absurd that no consensus could be reached for at least the second time. Don't you realize that they act in concert??!!
For example, see below from User:Fenian Swine's talk page:
- While the recent RFCN discussion to require you to change your username reached no consensus, I encourage you to do so in any case. Your username may inhibit your ability to work with some other editors. If you wish to keep the contributions and userpages from this account, you can easily do so by filing a request at WP:CHU. Seraphimblade Talk to me 02:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- Congratulations! One Night In Hackney303 11:31, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
- I will add my congrats a chara! --Vintagekits 13:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
They canvass each other to vote on matters important to them; they share info. on their Noticeboard and Project pages, etc. Those who genuinely act in good faith are pitifully disorganized. If Misplaced Pages had not been corrupted already someone like User:Vintagekits would have been blocked indefinitely by now. You blokced me for 48 hours for using sockpuppets (and I thank you for not making it a longer block as you might have done). I know I did something unacceptable, but I was driven to it because I am tired of being victimized by this gang who put their pro-IRA themes, topics, agendas, etc. and get Wikipedian validation. On User:Fenian Swine's discussion page he references Trinity College, Dublin and "Huns", a pejorative word for Protestants; why isn't he blocked for this hatemongering?
There is only relentless refusal to abide by the rules everyone else follows, and the inevitable humiliating defeat for their opponents or "enemies". What they want is everything their own way and what they are willing to concede voluntarily is close to nil. I wonder if a User could user the name say Osama's Watching or Al Qaeda underling or Hamas Hashemite or Taigkiller or some other offensive, terrorist-related username. I think we both know the answer to that, and to pretend the IRA is not as terroristic an organization as any other is revisionism.Jill Teed 20:49, 5 April 2007 (UTC)