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	==Shortened==
	I've only done a quick reading of this article, but it seems to me that the reasons if provides for a new Indian Century are basically the same reasons being provided for the article ]. Would it be better to keep this article short like the article ], and then include links to others that describe the reasoning, similar how american century links to ], ], etc. ] 01:02, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

			What does this have to do with the idea of an Indian Century? India is barely mentioned in that article and, even if it were more prominently featured, how does that make it a see also for this article. See also links should ''reflect the links that would be present in a comprehensive article on the topic'' so you should either modify the linked article to indicate that it is related to the term Indian century (with references) or exclude it here. --] <small>(])</small> 15:33, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
	how about the chinese century article

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	Claims made after claims, but no references to back it up. Bordering POV too. ] 11:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

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	==and NPOV tag...==
	Balanced discussion? ] 12:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

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	== that article is just....==
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	The article sounds a bit like a promotion for India rather than presenting the facts and theories about the topic.
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	: Not "a bit" like promotion. It should be shortened, like the other "centuries" to who, when and where used the term, not to be essay on politics, social structure and history. ] 03:14, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

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			Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 02:02, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
	Yeah, i've read it too...and done a some editing, a few minor changes. Hope someone expert will do some more and make it much better.
	For me, if China becomes the largest economy,the term 'Chinese century' should be used. Just for the sake of consistency. And that might happen; also note that China is slowly making good progress in other areas and fields as well, just as how India and other Asian countries are slowly developing their other areas.

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	There's a lot of "what if's" in this article. It's better to be titled "21st century should be India, and not China." Some support will be nice.

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	Hello mate. Dont tell me ur just going to change the title to that, and thus make it more like a promotion. Rather you make some changes to the body and talk about it in this discussion page.

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	We have an ] article, and business magazines frequently mention a "Chinese Century", shouldn't such an article exist?

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			Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 09:52, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
	Yeah, your correct. Such an article(or term)should indeed exist along other related superpower material.

	== This article reads like an India versus China chest thumping excercise ==

	Why so much comparisons with China in this ] article? The ] article doesn't even mention India. If people want to do comparisons, perhaps they should do it in the ] article. Hailing India as a multicultural mecca and China as homogenous juggernaut is just false. China isn't homogenous at all; only someone with very little knowledge of China and Chinese history would think so. --] 06:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

	== Last paragraph ==

	The last paragraph in that article is completely un-wikipediaish! All those clauses, "lives of despair", "shanty-town", "achievement for the world", "lucky ranks of impoverished" and the last sentence especially make it sound like it wants to make us cry! I thought Misplaced Pages articles were supposed to be neutral! Is this some kind of joke? Are we supposed to be mourning while reading that text? And I've had a quick look at what's above, and it's all the same - biased and determined to make us sad! That's just not the point of a Misplaced Pages article! Also, suggest breaking article up into smaller parts - the big block that it is now is totally off-putting, like ] said earlier. ] 18:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

	==Piling On==
	Joining with the various comments of a number of other editors, I'd only say that it is unfortunate that this article is in such a state, as I do think there is room on WP for a good article on the subject of an 'Indian Century'. The article, as it exists, really fails to meet a number of WP policies, and represents a lot of ] and failure to adhere to ]. This article really needs to be reconstructed from the ground up, especially to integrate information from the various sources that have been tacked on to the bottom of the article. ] 09:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

	==Neutrality==
	As usual with Indian articles the bias is unbelievable. Talk about ridiculous. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:14, 4 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	India is not considered to have blue water navy capabilities. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:16, 4 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	::I believe that it is considered that the Indian Navy has the ability operate in considerable numbers in blue water or could do so and are probably capable of projecting power into other nations' littoral waters out of the blue-water. Along with the Russian and Japanese navies. See ]] (]) 06:09, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

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	==Sub-Sections==
	The sub-sections on this article are the very same ones that where removed from the ] article for violations of ] and ]. Not one of those subsections even makes a referance to an "Indian century". Basically the entire article, with the exeption of the intro section, has nothing to do with "the Indian century". None of the sources talk about an "Indian century". This looks like complete ] and ]. I recommend that the majority of the sections in this article be deleted. It should be shorter like ] and ]. ] (]) 21:04, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
	: I agree. It is in Misplaced Pages's best interests to maintain a NPOV, keep the article relevant to the topic, and eliminate nationalistic bias. ] (]) 15:21, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
	::With that in mind I've removed the sub-sections. ] (]) 18:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
	Someone has re-added the WP:NOR and WP:NPOV violating sections, so I have removed them again and prompted the people/person to read the talk page. If you have an objection, please say so here, otherwhise the offending sections should stay removed. Thank you. ] (]) 16:38, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

	== Indian Economy ==

	Perhaps it would be more fair to leave long-term speculations about India's economy out of the article. The quote attributed to Clyde V. Prestowitz Jr. is not exactly a widely accepted view. It is perhaps worth noting that it was he who predicted that Japan would be the biggest economy in the 20th century and look what happened to that prediction. ] (]) 16:43, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

	Japan was second to that of U.S until recently before being overtaken by China and India.] (]) 03:56, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

	if you're talking about gdp measured in ppp, which i assume you are. india is currently 4th largest and japan is 3rd. if you remember that india and china's gdp (ppp) was reduced under world bank estimations. in any case, i don't see your point. it is unlikely that india's gdp will be larger than china's for at least the next century if ever and thus should not be mentioned as a fact. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:58, 16 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	I agree. This article appears to be a giant contest of "India is better than China", without mentioning "Indian century" at all besides the first sentances. ] (]) 13:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

	Agreed. It doesn't take an expert to see that India will grow in power this century and has great potential to be a great power or even superpower in this century. But let's be realistic and not try to play up India as the most powerful nation on Earth. ] (]) 16:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

	== Why has this article been shortened ==
	Why has this article been shortened ?
	] (]) 13:50, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
	: I see you've copied the section on India at ] here but being a regional power has nothing to do with the Indian Century. Military achievements, on top of being synthesis, have nothing to do with the Indian Century concept. ] (]) 13:07, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

	:This article should be shortened so that it is on even parity with the Chinese century article. On another note, if some people wish to keep these tidbits about how great India is in the article, maybe the nationalist bias can be removed by including counter-points and criticism of this view. Some ideas might be pointing out that the country is mired in poverty at the same level as many sub-Saharan African countries, with no strategy in place to improve its infrastructure or social services. Or, despite the military achievements mentioned, on a regional level India is nowhere near China or the military/industrial complex that is already firmly established in Russia. This should help increase the neutrality of the article.] (]) 03:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


	==Indian Century==
	Indian century is as common a term as Chinese century is so why some users r objecting against making this pageLAKSJD1 21:29, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

	India is often called the next big superpower it has a thriving economy, third largest military, large land area, large population, nukes, stable and democratic government etc. LAKSJD1 21:33, 10 September 2009 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	Do we really need a neologism for a possibility? In fact, does it make sense to create an encyclopedia article on a personal/non-scientific hypothesis? If it was a movement, or an ideology, it might have made sense to document it, but this is not that either. I'm pretty sure the British and American centuries were named in hindsight, not as a prophecies. ] (]) 20:22, 26 July 2012 (UTC) ] (]) 01:51, 27 July 2012 (IST)

	== Notable? ==

	Well, actually to discuss whether or not this article is remarkable. One should not pursue this edit war. Those who are opposed to present their arguments.

	Start the discussion, but do not know if I will continue with it ... My available time is limited. ] (]) 19:22, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
	:The concept appears at first glance to be quite notable Three academic books just on a cursory search. ] (]) 20:00, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
	this page shows what is a concept and thus it should be there, not deleted. --] (]) 11:33, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

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	The article has been nominated for deletion as it fails ] and has several issues. ''']''' (]) 07:02, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
	:Complicado editar com quem força ]. Desisto do artigo! ] (]) 13:57, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

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	] → {{no redirect\|Indian Century}} – For consistency with ], ] and ]. ] (]) 21:01, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
	*'''Support''' It's not about the "century" equivalent in some Indian timekeeping method. -- ] (]) 00:57, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
	*'''Support''' Per 70.50.151.11. ] (]) 19:15, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
	*'''Support''' for consistency with the ] and ] articles. ] (]) 18:05, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
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What does this have to do with the idea of an Indian Century? India is barely mentioned in that article and, even if it were more prominently featured, how does that make it a see also for this article. See also links should reflect the links that would be present in a comprehensive article on the topic so you should either modify the linked article to indicate that it is related to the term Indian century (with references) or exclude it here. --regentspark (comment) 15:33, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

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