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			:Thanks, Gerda. I imagine I'm one of the few 2009 recipients still here. ]<sup>]</sup> 15:40, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
			:: Well, not so few, - I joined 2009, DYK? I normally look up if someone found precious 10 years ago (mostly by ]) is still active and deserves a refreshed award. For you, it was the opposite: I noticed you on Floq's page, and thought "precious!", but then saw your entry and waited a bit ;) - Nice to meet you! --] (]) 15:45, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
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	:I'll go with your judgment on this one. :) ''']''' '']'' 16:52, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
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			::Just to add my sadness about your retirement...and my thanks for your input at RFPP. Take care. ] (]) 10:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

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	Done--and I also indef'd the main account as well. Thanks for the heads-up. ]] 14:44, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

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	I have commented briefly at your RFA - good luck my friend.--] <sup>]</sup> 05:20, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

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	::Follow up. AdirondackMan returned quickly after he left. ]<sup>]</sup> 08:46, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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	Watching and will await your return before further comment/support as appropriate etc?--] <sup>]</sup> 21:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

			This title is salted. Can you unprotect to allow promotion of draft into mainspace? ] is a different topic. It is well cited. I have checked for notability. It should be moved to ]. I was asked for help on my talkpage. Regards,-] (]) 14:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
	:I'm not really sure what to do. I guess I could e-mail Deskana? ]<sup>]</sup> 22:00, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
	:~~:I'm sure you've seen it by now, but the situation~~ is ~~developing~~ on ~~your~~ ~~RFA's talk page and~~ you ~~may~~ ~~want~~ to ~~take care of it as soon as possible.~~ ] (]) 22:03, 6 ~~January~~ ~~2009~~ (UTC)		:Enigmaman is inactive. Hey {{u\|Eddie891}} Can you help with this ? --] (]) 15:19, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
			:{{u\|Nizil Shah}}, I have un-salted so the draft can be mainspaced as it's clearly not an A7 candidate. The new article may of course still be tagged if it is not notable, I have not closely reviewed the case. Thanks for the ping, {{u\|Gaza world}}. Cheers, ] <small>''<sup> ]</sup> <sub>]</sub>'' </small> 15:45, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
	:::Oops, I see you posted there the very same minute I mentioned it here. ] (]) 22:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
			::I do not know anything about this. I SALTed the title some years ago after it had been deleted multiple times by various admins. ]<sup>]</sup> 16:43, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
	:::*Are you able to take one of the two options - option 2 preferably?--] <sup>]</sup> 22:06, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
	I knew it... you're Ok, on a serious note, I hope that this gets resolved quickly.---''']''' '']''<small>]</small> 22:07, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
	*I have provided an alternative solution at the talk page - without the need to provide your IP.--] <sup>]</sup> 22:12, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
	::I am now offline as I need to be up at stupid o'clock for a meeting in London and will be unlikely to be online for 24 hours unless I can get my very, very bad T-Mobile stick to workfor 3G access. However I do wish to offer my full support. If you ''did'' make some silly edits (and I don't know if you did or not) don't worry - it happens - and I'd urge you to put your hands up. If you didn't, then we can resolve it. Either way I still respect you. Best. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 22:42, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
	:::Sorry to hear that we'll be losing your calming voice of reason during these turbulent times. I'll have it worked out soon, hopefully. ]<sup>]</sup> 22:43, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

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	Enigmaman, you do realize that as soon as the contents of the offending messages are posted it will be trivial to search the wiki to determine what IP made them? —] <sup>(])</sup> 22:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

	~~:Yes~~, ~~and~~ ~~that's~~ the ~~reason~~ ~~for~~ my ~~hesitation~~ ~~here~~. I ~~can't~~ ~~seem~~ to ~~get~~ ~~Deskana~~ to ~~reply~~ to my ~~e-mails,~~ so ~~I'm~~ in a ~~bit~~ of a ~~quandary~~. ]<sup>]</sup> 22:48, 6 ~~January~~ ~~2009~~ (UTC)		Hi Enigmaman, your edit on the above page has been removed because the content claimed is not support by any source. You are welcome to put it back in if you would support it with an independent, reliable source by providing an inline citation. Thank you.]<sup>(])</sup> 04:55, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
	:~~:Delete the revisions~~, ~~then~~ ~~post~~ ~~the~~ ~~content~~. ~~–<font~~ ~~face="Verdana">~~] (])</~~font~~> 22:50, 6 ~~January~~ ~~2009~~ (UTC)		:No, it has a source. His official UFC page. ]<sup>]</sup> 15:44, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
	:::Would perhaps paraphrasing the contents of the edits be enough to keep people from finding the original comments while simultaneously divulging something close enough to what was said? ] (]) 22:53, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
	::::I had that thought earlier as well - although for transparency Deskana could paraphrase.--] <sup>]</sup> 22:54, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
	*I am putting the content on pastebin. ]<sup>]</sup> 22:55, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

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	Just think Enigma, when they talk about major screw ups at RfA's yours is going to be right up there with DHMO 3's! Congratulations! ;-) ---''']''' '']''<small>]</small> 04:40, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

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	:I'm going to consider that a win. Where do I sign? ]<sup>]</sup> 17:52, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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	::BUT, 299 supports and still have to withdraw because you nominator was a prick, stabbed you in the back, and the tide was turning ugly.... you can't leave out the exciting parts my friend.---''']''' '']''<small>]</small> 19:06, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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	:::After yesterday, I'm trying to focus on the positives. Please respect that. ;) ]<sup>]</sup> 19:07, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
	::::Perhaps it is a lame attempt, but I'm trying to remind you that whatever happens in this RfA, it is not the end of the world... worse, much worse, has occurred on WP/RfA... and people have survived... and while I know that there are probably people who will never for me for my mistake, on the whole I think they have. Solid work, positive attitude, dedication, and the support of people here on WP helped me weather the storm I faced. I believe that if you keep doing what you've been doing, this too shall pass. After all, while it may not feel like it right now, this is small potatoes compared to that. Have faith my friend and keep your spirits up.---''']''' '']''<small>]</small> 20:46, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
	:::::Thanks. Do you agree that I should keep the RfA open? What are your thoughts? ]<sup>]</sup> 20:49, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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	(Ok, bad title) For what it's worth, I plan to support once it starts again/over. I do think Deskana was right in freezing the RfA as soon as possible (he was in an impossible position), but the matter could have been settled privately afterwards. The wiki-crowd would probably have hated that though (everything has to be resolved in a heartbeat here...). I'm very sorry the thing derailed like that (the edits, for what I've seen, are regrettable but not something bad enough for people to reclaim your head on a pike). Good luck! -- ] <sup>]</sup> 10:45, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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	Dude, where is an explanation of the IP socking? I indented my support !vote but didn't remove it. Is a thorough explanation forthcoming? If silence is going to be your tactic here, I will personally have no choice but to take that as it's own explanation and oppose. ] \| ] 18:12, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

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	:I'm sorry, I just woke up. I haven't been editing for 15 hours. I thought I explained it on the talk page of the RfA, but maybe it wasn't good enough or perhaps you missed it. It was a small mistake compounded into a much larger one by sheer stupidity. The initial edit by the vote was logged out intentionally because I didn't want to get involved. Stupid, I know. The edit to the article and the ensuing mess occurred because I was not aware I was still logged out. When I got a warning, I then realized I must've made the edit while logged out, and you know what ensued. It was a massive screw-up, and whether or not my RfA passes (I frankly don't expect it to), I pledge to never do this again. I will change my Misplaced Pages skin so I become aware when I'm logged out. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:16, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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	::I'm actually quite disappointed that I wasn't able to support your RfA; whilst that incident alone may have not been good enough reason to oppose by itself, in corroboration with the events I have already discussed on the RfA, it only compounded my sense that this maybe isn't the right time. I can remember many instances where you have been kind to me indeed, especially after my own little incident back in late January last year (I'm sure I don't have to go into too much detail for you to remember it) – I know what it's like on that side of the fence, but hopefully I can support next time round. Good luck nevertheless. ] 18:22, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
	:::I still consider you a friend and you've been kind to me in the past as well. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
	:::: I won't withdraw the nomination. I believe (and so do ] that you handled the case to the best of your abilities. ]] 18:30, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

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	:Tan, perhaps you could re-affirm your support? I'm not sure how this is all going to be considered at the end, but I think initial supports will be given more weight if they're re-affirmed, showing that the editor was aware of what happened after he/she commented. ]<sup>]</sup> 02:20, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

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			== Precious anniversary ==
	I have strengthened my support (on the basis this is not a vote). The RFA is precarious. I shall be disapointed if there is a pile-on of opposes due to the IP thing. I hope not. Whatever the outcome I respect the way you handled this - I understand your frustrations and the anon edits and I understand the privacy concerns. The anon edits were silly, don't get me wrong, but many many admins (including myself) have done far worse yet still have the bit. That's not a good thing but it's reality and it takes into account human nature. Meantime hold on in there, and see where this leads. If you withdraw early on this RFA I'd almost guarantee you won't be able to get adminship for at least a year - and that harms Misplaced Pages. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 20:45, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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	:The pile on has already happened. The question is whether it continues and to what extent. I highly value your opinion and VirtualSteve also told me to hang in there with it and see where it goes, so I'm deferring to the two of you. I thank you for all the time you've spent on this curious case. I didn't mean to be so much trouble. :) ]<sup>]</sup> 20:47, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
	::I concur with the Pedro and VS... let people get it out of their system. I think this was handled poorly, but you did an admirable job considering the circumstances.---''']''' '']''<small>]</small> 20:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

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	:::(ec by BM!)If RFA was simple we'd have to delete ]! ''':)''' Seriously, hang on - see how it goes - I know how much the opposes hurt but at least let it ride for now. I wish I could add more input at the RFA itself but my credibility is fairly shot due to my recent frustrations (read gross incivilitly). See what the next 24 hours brings. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 20:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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	::::(EC) The ridiculus pile on at your RfA has all but guaranteed that this will be my last ever participation in a RfA. You are a fine editor and one mistake/moment of sillyness has caused most of the opposers there to ignore all your hard work and good edits. It has become quite clear that too many wikipedians expect robotic qualities from their sysops. I hope you continue your fine work here Enigma, it'd be a real shame if we lost you over all this nonsense. I really hope you're not put off by this! Good luck, happy editing and cheers! :-) '''John Sloan''' (] / ]) 20:59, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

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	:::::Though I do not believe this RfA or any future RfA would pass, I am heartened by the fact that some do still support me. Considering there are those that approve of me as an editor, I do not plan to leave anytime soon. If you can find it in your heart to forgive, it's the least I can do. ]<sup>]</sup> 21:03, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
	::::::Even those who oppose you are doing so in part due to high emotions... because of the way this was handled, there may always be some who will oppose you, but I really don't think those edits were enough to hold a long term grudge. It would have been different if you were logged on, logged off just to make rude/crass comments, then logged back on. With the exception of the comments to Catgut, I can see all of them being made by a user in good faith.---''']''' '']''<small>]</small> 22:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)EDIT: I said this in part because of my own experience. In the first few days after my blunder, I heard a ton of negativity... people were calling for my head, I was told never to show my face at RfA again, that anybody who accepted me as a nominator would get an automatic oppose, that I should just leave WP. VERY VERY hostile. A week or two after the dust settled, many of those same people came back (both privately and publically) and asked for forgiveness. They said they got caught up in the moment. Again, what you did was nothing compared to that.---''']''' '']''<small>]</small> 22:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
	:::::::...and because of the way you've handled this over the course of today, it actually looks like support is rallying back to your side. If I was betting on it right now, I'd say this will pass. (Hope I'm not jinxing...) Good luck. ] (]) 00:30, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

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	Hehe, a part of the answer is "for the lulz" to be honest :D. Nah, the real reasoning behind it is that we often get to block schools at the beginning of terms, and I noticed that for example we ended blocking some IPs every September. The idea was to lengthen the block a bit so its expiration does not coincide with an other boredom period, nor some date that is easy to remember. -- ] <sup>]</sup> 10:09, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

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	In the future, instead of removing an unsigned !vote, take the time to go back into the edit history and find out who left his/her !vote unsigned. Either contact that editor about it or add the signature for them. Time consuming sometimes, but it's a good practice. Cheers, ] (]) 13:44, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
	:This is a basic guideline, but I wouldn't call this a rule. I won't go back through and look for somebody's signature if it's not in the last few edits, it is their responsibility to check their !votes.---''']''' '']''<small>]</small> 15:39, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
	:What is this referring to? ]<sup>]</sup> 16:53, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

	It is in reference to your 2 Dec edit in an Arbitration Committee Election page. Not a big deal. ] (]) 17:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

	:Even then, the vote was not removed, it was indented. I'm not going to defend my edits from then, because they were wrong, but I don't believe I removed any votes. However, you are correct. It's best to try and find who made them or allow someone else to figure it out before indenting and/or striking. ]<sup>]</sup> 17:36, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

	::Please don't misunderstand me. I am not accusing you of anything. You did nothing wrong in the edit. I'm just giving a friendly suggestion on a different course of action. Happy editing, and cheers, ] (]) 17:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

	:::Sorry. It's possible I'm overly defensive after the last two days. Regards, ]<sup>]</sup> 17:45, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

	== Congratulations ==

	100 people think you deserve the bit. I guess that qualifies you for the ], whether or not you get the bit this go-around. ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 00:51, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

	:Indeed. ]<sup>]</sup> 00:52, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

	:: You scored more support votes than ]. No matter what, I have already considered you as victorious. ]] 14:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
	:::Yes, you have garnered more supports than ], too. Topping both your nominators has got to count for something. But unfortunately it's looking like my streak of unsuccessful nominations is going to extend to five (and that includes very well-known names, like Wisdom89 and yourself). ] (]) 20:53, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
	*I've met you, and I think you would make a fantastic admin. Unfortunately, a lot of people like to flex what little power they wield in life (even if it's just voting on Misplaced Pages issues), and you are not being treated particularly fairly, in my opinion. Sorry about that, E. --<font color="navy" size="2">David</font> ''']''' 20:45, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

	Hey, congrats back at ya! Thanks for welcoming me back and enjoy the new tools. All those neat little tabs atop the page...beautiful thing. It's an honor to work with such a wonderful crew and I am absolutely certain you're going to make a fine admin. --] (]) 20:50, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

	:::{{ec}} 50 opposes, most of them because of the IP edits is very worrying, but the support !votes have given me back some of my confidence in RfA. I just hope that the closing crat will discount opposes like 44! However this RfA ends, you'll certainly remain a respected editor of this project. Hope you're keeping your spirits up in what must be one of the most stressful weeks of your wiki-life! Good luck and happy editing :-) '''John Sloan''' (] / ]) 21:02, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

	*Thanks guys. Hey, it isn't ''all'' bad. Maybe I can make history by being in the top 10 of supports of RfAs being closed as unsuccessful (record appears to be 201, according to ]). Obscure statistics make the world go round. Anyway, everyone have a good weekend. Enigma out. ]<sup>]</sup> 21:38, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
	**Oh yeah, if anyone wants to add the Rfa notice to my user or talk page, feel free. I know the code for the regular one, but I forgot how you modify it to direct you to RfA 2. ]<sup>]</sup> 21:40, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
	::::{{done}}. I placed it on your talk page, just copy it to your userpage if you want it there, too. ] (]) 04:55, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
	:::Can't help you there, Enigma, but I can give you another Judy Garland video that is laced with highly cogent advice: . :) ] (]) 04:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

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	I noticed you asking about a way to find redlinked categories on Good Olfactory's talk page so that you could go remove them from articles. I had this same idea awhile ago and implemented a bot to do it, and then caught a tremendous amount of shit for it and had the edits reverted. I forget exactly the reasoning that people used, but consensus was clearly against removing redlinked categories from articles at the time. If you still do want to go ahead with this task, definitely solicit some discussion at the ] first. --] 22:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

	:Thanks for the advice. That's too bad. I recently saw someone using categories for vandalism (putting BLPs in fake defamatory categories). I figured maybe I (or a bot) could go through the red links and remove them. I guess people would be upset about a bot, but maybe I'll try doing it by hand. It was very upsetting to see defamatory categories stick on a BLP for weeks. I'm hoping to look if other marginally-notable BLPs have the same problem. ]<sup>]</sup> 23:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

	::The basic problem, I now remember, is that most redlinked categories are redlinked because something was screwed up elsewhere. For instance, the category is renamed, but a bot error doesn't touch some of the pages (or maybe they're protected). Or someone tries to do it manually and messes up. The correct answer in most circumstances with a redlinked category is to figure out what it's going for and find the actual category in the category structure that it should be. This isn't something a bot can do until the invention of strong AI, unfortunately. --] 23:32, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

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	Yes, please tell me. ''']]''' 04:20, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

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	Thanks for !<span style="white-space:nowrap"><font face="Harlow Solid Italic">] ''] @ </font></span> 22:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

	== RfA finally closed ==

	I'm sorry, but I've closed your RfA as No Consensus... though it was certainly a tough call to make. Please read my ] <small>(it certainly took long enough to write, oy vey...)</small>, and please know that I honestly think you've got a solid chance to pass another RfA in a few months' time.

	I hope this whole situation doesn't sour you on Misplaced Pages. ] <span style="color: #999;">// ] // ] //</span> 22:41, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
	:I think so too... I think some people were caught up in the emotion... not the reality of the situation... and letting this run, while probably hard on you, let people get it out of their system.---''']''' '']''<small>]</small> 22:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
	::haha ]<sup>]</sup> 22:48, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

	== A good fight fought with "grace under fire" ==

	Bad luck my friend - and with almost 200 !voters and plenty of support at your RfA. Keep up all of your brilliant editing at wikipedia we need you here; and in the not too distant future let's see if all of those ''not just now'' !voters will come to your party.--] <sup>]</sup> 22:43, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
	: Firmly seconding this view. Wikidrama is evil. ] 22:51, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

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	I was intending on taking one whether or not this RfA passed. I'll be back on Monday at the latest. It's possible I'll return sooner. As I posted on the talk page of the RfA, my sincere thanks to all who participated in the RfA in good faith. I'm not surprised how it was closed, because I don't think any bureaucrat was going to be able to close it as successful. It would've caused a lot more drama. The original mistake was mine, and mine alone. However, I am extremely disappointed in a few editors and their behavior. I'm not going to call people out here because I'm leaving and I'm not interested in arguing with anyone. These are my feelings. Nothing more, nothing less. So goodbye, and see you soon! ]<sup>]</sup> 22:58, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

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Precious

"...a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma... "

Thank you for quality articles about personalities such as Sid Luckman and Félix Houphouët-Boigny, for work for project Living people when it was active, for quoting "...a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma... ", for support and the perfect solution, - enigmaticmaman, repeating from 10 years ago: you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2240 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

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Ten years!

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Thanks, Gerda. I imagine I'm one of the few 2009 recipients still here. Enigma 15:40, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Well, not so few, - I joined 2009, DYK? I normally look up if someone found precious 10 years ago (mostly by Rlevse) is still active and deserves a refreshed award. For you, it was the opposite: I noticed you on Floq's page, and thought "precious!", but then saw your entry and waited a bit ;) - Nice to meet you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

:-) Enigma 16:13, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

We'll wait for your return. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:47, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

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I am not happy. Things are getting worse and worse on Misplaced Pages. Enigma 20:32, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Just to add my sadness about your retirement...and my thanks for your input at RFPP. Take care. Lectonar (talk) 10:12, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

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You got it deleted before the message even appeared for me, so this is not a helpful message. You could've notified me first. Enigma 20:32, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

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Pranav Pandya

This title is salted. Can you unprotect to allow promotion of draft into mainspace? Draft:Pranav Pandya (Gujarati poet) is a different topic. It is well cited. I have checked for notability. It should be moved to Pranav Pandya. I was asked for help on my talkpage. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 14:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Enigmaman is inactive. Hey Eddie891 Can you help with this ? --Gazal world (talk) 15:19, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Nizil Shah, I have un-salted so the draft can be mainspaced as it's clearly not an A7 candidate. The new article may of course still be tagged if it is not notable, I have not closely reviewed the case. Thanks for the ping, Gaza world. Cheers, Eddie891 _Work 15:45, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I do not know anything about this. I SALTed the title some years ago after it had been deleted multiple times by various admins. Enigma 16:43, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Max Griffin (fighter)

Hi Enigmaman, your edit on the above page has been removed because the content claimed is not support by any source. You are welcome to put it back in if you would support it with an independent, reliable source by providing an inline citation. Thank you. Cassiopeia 04:55, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

No, it has a source. His official UFC page. Enigma 15:44, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

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Hi! I see you are the closer for Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Element Fresh. I found an article from The Beijinger that it had developed a partnership with a tennis player named Li Na and now it's gone bankrupt. Would it help if I checked for some Chinese sources about the bankruptcy? If I can find enough I could start a DRV. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:24, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

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