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| :I'd say Benecio del Toro shows marginally mestizo features, maybe not in build or stature, but facially. The two examples given in the article currently look rather 'alpinid' to me, not nordic. ] 04:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | :I'd say Benecio del Toro shows marginally mestizo features, maybe not in build or stature, but facially. The two examples given in the article currently look rather 'alpinid' to me, not nordic. ] 04:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
| :Even if they show marginally mestizo features, that should'nt stop us from including him. We shoudln't be like the Anglo-Americans that incorporate the "one-drop rule" theory. Burt Reynolds, Chuck Norris and Wayne Newton are all seen as "good ol' boy" white dudes but they have admitted to recent and significant Native American blood, making them mestizo by category. Benecio Del Toro looks the same as Reynolds and Netwon in that he is just a 'dark' white man whit possible native admixture. | |||
| :The two examples given are rather alpine, I guess you could say, but most people wouldnt know the difference between the two. In the United States there is a twisted definition of white that is not only ignorant but overtly racist (if you can even call it that). The better term would be classist because, the Americans of Northern European decent consider themselves to be white while they classify Southern and most Eastern Europeans as non-white. And top of that the group designated as non-white has to pretty much rise to the top of the socio-economic ladder to be considered "Anglo" or "White". That explains who Italians (who are a Latin group) and Greeks suddenly became Anglo in the United States. That explains how Cubans in the 1950's were caucasians but suddenly when Castro took power and stranded all the Cubans in America, their "prestige" factor went down, as did their "white" status. The Mariel incident was the final nail in the coffin. | |||
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On second thought...
I'm not sure that we need an article about each US Hispanic racial subgroup. If I had to do it over, I wouldn't have re-started this one after I renamed it to White Latin American (to match its contents, since it was actually about White Latin Americans). But it's up already, so I'll leave it to you, fellow Wikipedians, to decide. Obviously, keeping it means we'd have to create articles for the other Hispanic subgroups. Anyway, talk amongst yourselves. SamEV 03:06, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Add other White Hispanics
There are plenty of white hispanics out there like Daisy Fuentes, Andy Garcia and Benecio Del Toro. Remember that we shouldnt use the Anglo-American definition for "white" which simply only compromises those with Nordic features. Those with Mediterranean features count too. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.142.24.192 (talk) 06:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC).
- I'd say Benecio del Toro shows marginally mestizo features, maybe not in build or stature, but facially. The two examples given in the article currently look rather 'alpinid' to me, not nordic. 67.5.157.48 04:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Even if they show marginally mestizo features, that should'nt stop us from including him. We shoudln't be like the Anglo-Americans that incorporate the "one-drop rule" theory. Burt Reynolds, Chuck Norris and Wayne Newton are all seen as "good ol' boy" white dudes but they have admitted to recent and significant Native American blood, making them mestizo by category. Benecio Del Toro looks the same as Reynolds and Netwon in that he is just a 'dark' white man whit possible native admixture.
- The two examples given are rather alpine, I guess you could say, but most people wouldnt know the difference between the two. In the United States there is a twisted definition of white that is not only ignorant but overtly racist (if you can even call it that). The better term would be classist because, the Americans of Northern European decent consider themselves to be white while they classify Southern and most Eastern Europeans as non-white. And top of that the group designated as non-white has to pretty much rise to the top of the socio-economic ladder to be considered "Anglo" or "White". That explains who Italians (who are a Latin group) and Greeks suddenly became Anglo in the United States. That explains how Cubans in the 1950's were caucasians but suddenly when Castro took power and stranded all the Cubans in America, their "prestige" factor went down, as did their "white" status. The Mariel incident was the final nail in the coffin.