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There seems to be a dispute among editors about how to cover the various followers of Swaminarayan. Unless changes are discussed here they are likely to be reverted. The current version, as edited by ], seems to be balanced. Substantial additions, subtractions, or changes to the article should be supported by verifiable sources. In any case, please bring the issues here to the talk page. Misplaced Pages is a collaborative effort. Thanks, -] 23:08, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC) |
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:Original Swaminarayan Sampraday Satsangi " Can I just verbalize that we have our own view's and point's to make so can we just stick to this layout and if you need to edit it, just do your own sections and don’t touch other writing's. ''21:46, Apr 27, 2005 83.67.4.89'' |
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::Thanks for coming to the talk page to discuss your issues. It would also help if you can please sign your talk page entries, easily done by typing four tildes at the end (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). The method for editing Misplaced Pages articles is that we all edit each other's work and we need to arrive at a a consensus version through collaboration. None of has a section of our own, though if you register you can have a user page of your own on which you can write just about anything. As for this article, can you explain what the problem is with the Mkweise version? It seems like a great advance over previous versions. Thanks, -] 02:59, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC) |
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== Remove the word yogi from this article. If Swaminarayan was God, then he should get at least that much respect == |
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People who have not read the scriptures of the Swaminarayan Sampradaya have no right to edit this page. In none of the scriptures of the Swaminarayan sect, he is called only a yogi. They are God. So he was proficient in yogic action. I have nothing more to say but just remove the word Yogi from the article. And at least use the word God. If you see references to him being God I will give them.But please don't insult our Lord like this. Don't edit the page if you don't know about our sect. It hurts our feelings ] (]) 05:18, 21 April 2023 (UTC) |
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::Before editing again, please take a moment to read about our ] policy. Adjectives like "authentic", "bona fide" and "splinter" are inherently POV. It is an undisputable fact that BAPS is today much larger and more significant than the Vadtal sect. ] 06:47, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC) |
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:See ] and ]. Regards, ] -] 11:43, 7 May 2023 (UTC) |
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== Remove Yogi Word == |
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Stop messing about by putting on random external links, just to advertise your "Akshardham". |
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Also I'd like to add what makes you say that it is a fact that the Baps is the biggest Swaminarayan group, anyone would say this is an opinion father than a fact because I don't think it is the biggest. |
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i am firm believer of lord shree swaminarayan. You need to remove word yogi and replace it with God. Do not play with emotions of devotees. There are crores of devotees who believe he is the supreme lord. This is insult of my beloved lord shree Swaminarayan. ] (]) 09:16, 20 June 2023 (UTC) |
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Don't do it again! |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2023 == |
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:If an external link concerns Swaminarayan or any of his groups of followers, and adds useful information to readers, then it should have a place in this article. What is your specific objection to the links in question? - Thanks -] 22:09, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC |
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If that is the case than we would get numbers of people adding links on to the site |
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Replace the infobox image with BAPS Robbinsville Mandir - Murti 2.jpg, its more in detail. ] (]) 02:18, 30 September 2023 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Here is a link the image requested: https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:BAPS_Robbinsville_Mandir_-_Murti_2.jpg. There is no description provided for it on its wikimedia page, but the ] on English Misplaced Pages indicates it is from a location in the United States. I think the one used in the infobox is a better fit as the lead image for this page. (But, of course anyone with autoconfirmed status who disagrees with me is of course free to continue the discussion here, or ] change the image themselves.) -- ] (]) 01:23, 6 October 2023 (UTC) |
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::Hello, I think the image shown should not be used due to the ambiguity or difficulty one may have locating Swaminarayan in the image. It should be cropped (if possible) and then used. The image currently depicted is not of great quality and does not heed to the traditional art styles used to depict Swaminarayan traditionally in the Indian arts. I thus believe is may be beneficial to replace it. |
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::] (]) 04:06, 7 January 2024 (UTC) |
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::] (]) 04:06, 7 January 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2023 == |
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:As long as they are relevant, that would not be a problem. Please sign your talk page entries. Thanks.-] 22:37, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC) |
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== How many temples? == |
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add Father's genuine name: Hariprasad Pande and Mother's genuine name: Premvati Pande in info box with title "Personal" located below "Swaminarayan" and above "Religious career". |
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Also, please mention the referance link to the Bhashya on "Prasthantrayi" based on which he became GOD. ] (]) 01:33, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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*Shree Swaminarayan Sampraday maintains approximately 300 temples and over 100 centers worldwide. |
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:Please provide a ] for the claim. ] (]) 07:15, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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*Shree Swaminarayan Sampraday maintains approximately 30 temples and over 100 centers worldwide. |
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:] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> '''<span style="color:#f535aa">—</span> ] <span style="color:#f535aa">(] • ])</span>''' 08:06, 23 November 2023 (UTC) |
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== WILL FILE A CASE IN INDIAN COURT == |
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One of these is wrong. Which one? -] 10:33, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC) |
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IF THE WORD SUPREME GOD OR GOD WILL BE NOT MEINTIONED AN REMOVAL OF WORD YOGI IN THE ARTICLE THEN WE THE PEOPLE OF SWAMIANARYAN SAMPRADAYA WILL FILE A CASE IN INDIAN COURT |
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:According to this page: , there are 35 temples and 18 I.S.S.O Chapters maintained by the Shree Swaminarayan Sampraday. If anyone has a better source please use it. However please do not change it to some number that does not have a verifiable source. Thanks, -] 21:57, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC) |
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# Defilement of places of worship or objects of great respect (Section 295 and 297). |
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Just to let you know this list has not yet been fully updated, and I know there are well over 30 temples in India alone |
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# Outraging or wounding the religious feelings of persons (Section 295A and 298). |
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# Disturbing religious assemblies (Section 296). |
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:Thanks. Once a better number can be verified we can use it. Until then, 35 is the number that they list. Cheers, -] 15:25, May 1, 2005 (UTC) |
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ld''' ] (]) 07:35, 23 December 2023 (UTC) |
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:Why do you keep deleting the picture? Is it offensive? Why do you delete the information about the murder? It is backed by a source. Please explain your changes. Thanks -] 15:29, May 1, 2005 (UTC) |
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:{{yo|Bishonen|Doug Weller|RegentsPark}} ]. ] - ] 09:06, 23 December 2023 (UTC) |
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::Looking over some of his , I wouldn't spend too much time trying to find reason in anything this user does... ] 23:01, 2 May 2005 (UTC) |
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::Never mind; already done. ] - ] 09:07, 23 December 2023 (UTC) |
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:: ], Had put a note at ANI. Suitable action is taken ].--] <sup> ] </sup> 09:09, 23 December 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Yes, I've seen those, and such petty vandalism does make it harder to assume good faith on the part of an editor. However, reverting page changes every day is also time-consuming so if we spend a little time in order to gain a consensus then it will be a good investment. Thanks for your patient and constructive involvement. -] 23:14, May 2, 2005 (UTC) |
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== Lord Swaminarayan is not a manifestation of Krishna == |
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As the number of temples is not known yet, I'll put down a NPOV that is accepted by all. |
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It is believed in the Swaminarayan Sampradaya (religion) that that Lord Swaminarayan is the manifestation of the supreme God himself, and he looks exactly the way he looks in his divine abode. it is not believed that He is an incarnation of Krishna. Although Krishna is revered in our religion, we do not believe him to be the Supreme God. So can you please research and change this. |
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:This is not a POV matter, but a factual dispute. The number is known as the website lists each temple by name. Please register a username. And please stop deleting material from the article unless you are willing to discuss the changes. Thanks, -] 16:51, May 4, 2005 (UTC) |
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Thanks ] (]) 16:07, 2 May 2024 (UTC) |
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I have added to the input of the swaminarayan sampraday and not touched anything else please keep it as it is and just to let you know this is all facts. |
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:No, that is not all. You deleted this line: |
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::''In ], four ]s and one householder devotee were sentenced to death for the ] ] of another sadhu .'' |
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:You also removed a line about how having a householder is an aspect serves to ''separate this group from orthodox Hinduism.'' What is your sources for these latest edits? -] 00:50, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC) |
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I think you will will my edits are backed up by vadtal.com which states the name of the current Vadtal gadi acharya |
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People who have not read the scriptures of the Swaminarayan Sampradaya have no right to edit this page. In none of the scriptures of the Swaminarayan sect, he is called only a yogi. They are God. So he was proficient in yogic action. I have nothing more to say but just remove the word Yogi from the article. And at least use the word God. If you see references to him being God I will give them.But please don't insult our Lord like this. Don't edit the page if you don't know about our sect. It hurts our feelings ભાવિક (talk) 05:18, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
i am firm believer of lord shree swaminarayan. You need to remove word yogi and replace it with God. Do not play with emotions of devotees. There are crores of devotees who believe he is the supreme lord. This is insult of my beloved lord shree Swaminarayan. Juhi2511 (talk) 09:16, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
add Father's genuine name: Hariprasad Pande and Mother's genuine name: Premvati Pande in info box with title "Personal" located below "Swaminarayan" and above "Religious career".
It is believed in the Swaminarayan Sampradaya (religion) that that Lord Swaminarayan is the manifestation of the supreme God himself, and he looks exactly the way he looks in his divine abode. it is not believed that He is an incarnation of Krishna. Although Krishna is revered in our religion, we do not believe him to be the Supreme God. So can you please research and change this.
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Not done: Here is a link the image requested: https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:BAPS_Robbinsville_Mandir_-_Murti_2.jpg. There is no description provided for it on its wikimedia page, but the page where it is used on English Misplaced Pages indicates it is from a location in the United States. I think the one used in the infobox is a better fit as the lead image for this page. (But, of course anyone with autoconfirmed status who disagrees with me is of course free to continue the discussion here, or WP:BOLDLY change the image themselves.) -- Pinchme123 (talk) 01:23, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
