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== "was designed to eventually have triple highways" == == "was designed to eventually have triple highways" ==


What does this mean? A "three-lane-road", three carriageways, a three-lane dual carriageway like a motorway, what? Please explain better. ] 13:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC) What does this mean? A "three-lane-road", three carriageways, a three-lane dual carriageway like a motorway, what? Please explain better. ] 13:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I was going to post exactly the same thing! ] (]) 14:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

== First dual carriageway? ==

I don't think this claim is accurate. The road opened in 1934 - there were already dual carriageways open by then - for example Blackburn had a section of its ring road with dual carriageways in 1928. The fact a citation is needed kind of emphasises the point that it's not a valid claim?

] (]) 01:04, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
*I've changed the {{tl|fact}} to {{tl|dubious}} (which links to this talk page) as the claim is probably not accurate. If construction started in 1929 then that short section of Blackburn ring road was almost certainly earlier, and maybe that was not the first either. --] ] 02:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

::Well lets hope that this unnamed (unnumbered) road in Blackburn is referenced - possibly yet another dubious claim.] (]) 08:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

::*I am not claiming that the road in Blackburn (the A6119 Brownhill Drive) was the first - just that it was before the A580. This article also contradicts the ] article which claims that the ] in London was the first, in 1925. --] ] 09:41, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

:::*I'd not read the dual carriageway article, thanks for that; however for a B class article it is badly referenced. The A580 text also contradicts the references quoted. Skimming through its references, the conversion to dual carriageway appears to date to the 1950s/60s. You and Bryn666 appear to both have a Blackburn affinity, so it looked a bit like the "Blackburn two" (sorry for that) versus the A580. I have no great interest in the A580, its just a road I used to get from Salford to the M6 in the early 1970s; 30 years late I used the M62/M60/M602.] (]) 16:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

== First concrete road ==

AIUI (family lore, from a family that ran a haulage business along it since it was opened) this was the first major UK road to be surfaced with concrete, rather than tarmac. Anyone able to source this? ] (]) 17:35, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

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"was designed to eventually have triple highways"

What does this mean? A "three-lane-road", three carriageways, a three-lane dual carriageway like a motorway, what? Please explain better. 86.146.232.175 13:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I was going to post exactly the same thing! 161.12.7.4 (talk) 14:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

First dual carriageway?

I don't think this claim is accurate. The road opened in 1934 - there were already dual carriageways open by then - for example Blackburn had a section of its ring road with dual carriageways in 1928. The fact a citation is needed kind of emphasises the point that it's not a valid claim?

Bryn666 (talk) 01:04, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

  • I've changed the {{fact}} to {{dubious}} (which links to this talk page) as the claim is probably not accurate. If construction started in 1929 then that short section of Blackburn ring road was almost certainly earlier, and maybe that was not the first either. --Snigbrook 02:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Well lets hope that this unnamed (unnumbered) road in Blackburn is referenced - possibly yet another dubious claim.Pyrotec (talk) 08:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
  • I'd not read the dual carriageway article, thanks for that; however for a B class article it is badly referenced. The A580 text also contradicts the references quoted. Skimming through its references, the conversion to dual carriageway appears to date to the 1950s/60s. You and Bryn666 appear to both have a Blackburn affinity, so it looked a bit like the "Blackburn two" (sorry for that) versus the A580. I have no great interest in the A580, its just a road I used to get from Salford to the M6 in the early 1970s; 30 years late I used the M62/M60/M602.Pyrotec (talk) 16:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

First concrete road

AIUI (family lore, from a family that ran a haulage business along it since it was opened) this was the first major UK road to be surfaced with concrete, rather than tarmac. Anyone able to source this? Andy Dingley (talk) 17:35, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

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