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:I've added my suggested revision. I haven't heard from you there or on my talk page, so I thought maybe you weren't watching the page. Hope you can comment and help improve it, but at the moment it's pretty much my first foray into editing mainspace, so, time permitting, I'm happy to do the bulk of the work. ] (]) 10:36, 5 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks for your help on this. As the discussion there has already been archived (]), I'll post comments here for now, and on that talk page if needed. Sorry for not getting back sooner, but I was tied down by other things. It looks like your suggested revision is a compromise between the existing one and my suggestion. I'm thankful you've made this effort, but I prefer your existing version. If you don't mind, I'll go ahead and make incremental changes to the existing version, like including more references and so on. Do you use your watchlist much? Then I can just post notes on that talk page for any small things I do, and you can check there. The main thing I really feel strongly about is removing the parenthetical comment in the first line: "The Baha'i Faith, founded in 19th century Persia..." I think it should just be without the "founded in..", because people can click on the link, and it seems out of place. Regards, ] (]) 10:15, 24 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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== Hussein Bicar article == | |||
Hello Jeff...I'm sorry it looked like I was vandalizing Hussein Bicar's page...I've made some changes to it in my sandbox and would like to take your opinion before posting it. please take a look at it and let me know what you think because after that I need your help with some issues regarding the article. Here is the link. Thanks<br /> | |||
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Thanks a lot for taking the time to go through it Jeff.<br /> | |||
I see there are three issue that need to be fixed, first is The referencing, I'll use the links you sent me to deal with it. | |||
secondly, is re-writting in a neutral way and I can have that done.Third, the pictures you mentioned, I have six images that I need to use for this article that have been marked as violating copyrights, I didn't know much about using proper copyright license when I first posted them but then I learned about it and I've made the necessary changes and I believe they should be ok now, and I have provided explanation to the reason why I chose each license in the discussion page of each file...however they are still marked. I'd really appreciate if you take a look at them and provide me with your feedback.<br /> | |||
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One last thing is the name of the article needs to be changed from "Hussein Bikar" to "Hussein Bicar" with a "C" because that is how he wrote it himself and he also signed his paintings as "Bicar" so I was hoping you can tell me how that can be done. thank you for your support<br />--] (]) 13:58, 5 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Hello Jeff, I have made further updates for Bicar's article and finally I was able to license all the used images properly. Kindly note that I'm part of a small team working on preparing for Bicar's centenary, among our preparations is a request sent to the administration in Google to commemorate Bicar's centenary on their logo on January 3rd, I'm afraid that having mention of Bicar's religion in the lead line might imply that we are trying to pass this as an occasion to bring recognition to the Baha'i faith in Egypt … not to mention the fanatic atmosphere and religious tension prevailing in Egypt now, specially that we are sending Bicar's Misplaced Pages article to Egyptian government officials seeking their support to sponsor Bicar's centenary by the Egyptian ministry of culture as he is the most recognized painter in Egypt's modern history and is very well known to the general public and despite everyone one knows he was Baha'i he never defined himself from a religious perspective.<br /> | |||
So I hope you understand that for the above reasons I need to disregard Bicar's religion from the lead line.--] (]) 22:16, 26 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> | |||
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I want you to know that I am truly grateful for all your help and advice with the article. I owe you a great deal in that respect. <br /> | |||
I know it may be somewhat difficult for someone who does not live in Egypt to understand the implications of every single word mentioned around the Faith.<br /> | |||
Bicar was taken to prison in 1985 on the false accusation of spying for Israel! This is as you surely know is tantamount to high treason. This was within the highly illogical round up of 48 of the friends who were incarcerated in prison with criminals for more than six weeks on absolutely no grounds except that strange accusation. Some of them were single mothers and had to leave their children to neighbors and under extreme social pressure as to why their parents were arrested. I wish you would re-read the Ahram Weekly's argument to see how skewed and uneven handed it is in discussing an issue that is volatile and adds to the existing and currently mounting mindless hatred to any 'other'. In fact the article could be sited as an excellent example of instigation of hate. The reasons, though obvious to us out here, may not be so to you living as you do in a very different atmosphere. The Faith is not a 'cult' and we have been fighting since the 1920's to define it as a separate religion to be judged on its own grounds. As far as I know there is no Israeli house of worship thus far. There is only The Universal House of Justice. The article insinuates that since this is a cult that there must be a center and since The House of Justice happens to be in Haifa then Baha'is must by necessity owe allegiance to the State of Israel! This is the logic behind the article in Al Ahram. If you find this fair then there is nothing more I can say, except that citing Al Ahram as a responsible reference would be highly misleading to the reader and underscoring already existent bias and unknowingly propagating hate to our Faith. I am sure you have no wish to see that happen. Lastly, I think it irrelevant to mention Bicar's religion not on any of the grounds I spoke about above, but because the matter of religion never seems to be an issue with other artists that appear in Misplaced Pages and hence was wondering why it should be necessary in this case. There would be no harm indeed to mention Bicar's faith if we see a similar reference to a Jewish painter of world fame as an example to highlight the point I am trying to make. In the final analysis this last point is neither here nor there, the only issue of real importance is the citing of Ahram Weekly which draws on an uninformed popular image of the faith and is propagating blatant lies, unfortunately. I repeat the Faith is not a 'cult' and The Universal House of Justice is not an Israeli based cult that employs agents to 'take charge of all Baha'i places of worship'. This is irresponsible journalism to put it in the mildest words possible. I would truly appreciate it if you reflected on this and together we may come to an understanding that would serve rather than harm both Bicar and the Bahai faith.--] (]) 21:53, 4 December 2012 (UTC)<br /> | |||
The only reference that brings mention of Bicar being Bahai other than Ahram weekly is this link http://www.bahai-egypt.org/2006/06/tribute-to-egyptian-bahais-national.html | |||
It does the needful referencing and can be a substitute for Ahram’s misleading underscore on the Bahai faith.--] (]) 18:56, 9 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Alas it is a blog and that is not a good standard for wikipedia. Other sources can be used which clarify the actual teachings of the religion and clarify what is right in the article and wrong.... --] (]) 21:01, 9 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
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As I made it clear in my last comments to your talk, and which you conveniently chose to ignore, the edits you are now making to the Huquq page are not based upon Secondary Sources. I will infact re-edit the page to remove the unsupported tertiary and primary sources, to be in comformity with exactly what it is that you have said. If you cannot provide authentic verifiable secondary source on the calculation of the Huquq, then it will not be articulated in such manner. | |||
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Moreover, the corporate body known as the "Universal House of Justice" is in fact not universally recognized by Baha'is throughout the world and not all Huquq by Baha'is is payed to them. | |||
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So, if you do not remove the bias or include the differing perspectives, I will edit it forthwith. | |||
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Lastly, I will move the entirety of our ongoing conversation on this matter to your talk page, where in fact I posted my last comments to you *not in duplicate*. If the thread must live in only one place then it will live on your talk page, where my last comments were made. | |||
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