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==Mediation Cabal Case== |
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Hello. I am the mediator who has responded to the request for mediation by ]. I think that this situation is getting close to an edit war, but I hope that I can help settle things down and help both parties come to an agreement. First, I would like to establish my neutrality: |
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*I come from the UK, and have never read any of Toure's published work, in novel, newspaper, or magazine form. |
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*Neither have I ever seen Toure on TV. |
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*From the infomation in the article, I don't even have the same taste in music. |
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I hope that this helps to verify my neutrality. |
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Now then, I would like to draw both of your attention to ], which is a policy on wikipedia which governs the rules about biographies of living people. If you look at the 'Presumption in favor of privacy' section on the page, the first line states, |
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*''Biographies of living people must be written conservatively and with due regard to the subject's privacy.'' |
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It also goes on to say: |
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*''Material from primary sources should generally not be used. For example, public records may include personal details such as home value, outcomes of civil court cases, traffic citations, arrest records, and vehicles and real estate owned. Use material only from reliable third-party sources.'' |
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*''...editors should exercise restraint and include only information relevant to their notability.'' |
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May I ask, with this in mind, why, 84.100.38.28, you feel that adding Toure's last name is relevent or important to the article? ]]] <sup>]</sup> 14:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:This case is now closed, due to inactivity. I would suggest, as I ave written above, that adding Toure's last name is a violation of ], and therefore not be put into the article. ]]] <sup>]</sup> 11:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the {{{type|proposal}}}. <font color="red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</font> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. '' |
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{{{result|The result of the debate was}}} '''PAGE MOVED''' per discussion below. -]<sup>(])</sup> 23:55, 16 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== Proposed move == |
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* '''Oppose'''. Need reasons why that spelling should be used. Also, xomeone could help proposer of move by creating proper discussion section. ] 09:35, 9 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*<s>'''Oppose''' I'd agree with Gene Nygaard on this one. There seems little reason for the move. ]]] <sup>]</sup> 10:40, 9 September 2006 (UTC)> |
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* '''Support if''' this is what Toure/é himself uses, presumably to indicate how his name is to be pronounced (assuming it ''is'' meant to be pronounced "Tour-ray" or the like!) Regards, ] 03:07, 10 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*<s>'''Neutral'''</s> The personality is referred to as "Touré" through the entire article. Title must conform with content. However, I could not verify which one is the correct form (Google and Yahoo render virtually nil results for both forms +).--]]] 00:49, 11 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:'''Support''', per ].--]]] 00:25, 12 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''', "Touré" is the form he uses on his website. ] 16:33, 11 September 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' "Touré and Toure are different names with different pronunciations. Omitting the accent makes as much a difference as omitting a letter. Touré is the proper spelling of Touré's given name. Toure is an incorrect spelling, though it occurs frequently because many people don't know how to add accents on a computer. At the time the page about Touré was written the Touré page seemed taken and out of respect to the larger Misplaced Pages mission, the page labelled Touré was not disrupted. However, the page about Touré is incorrect until the page is named Touré. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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*'''Support''' Seeing as Toure wants it to be called Touré... ]]] <sup>]</sup> 19:15, 11 September 2006 (UTC) |
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== Surname == |
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I have removed Toure's surname from the article for now. Seeing as this falls under the ] policy, we should take extra care in protecting people's personal information, especially when they have stated that they don't want that information known. I have raised the issue on the ], so we should receive some feed back and community consensus as to what to do soon. Until that time, please, do not add Toure's last name to the article. Thanks. ]]] <sup>]</sup> 09:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:As you can see from the discussion on the ], it is believed that Touré's last name is not relievent to his notability, so there is no need for it to be put into the article. ]]] <sup>]</sup> 16:35, 14 September 2006 (UTC) |
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], ] and many others go by just 1 public name but their surnames are still in their wikipedia pages. So why is the rule different for Toure ? I think it should be this "Toure (born Toure Neblett in 1970 in Massachusestts) "in parentheses in the lead /intro sentence. ] (]) 20:05, 6 October 2011 (UTC) |
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:Misplaced Pages will withhold certain personal information of biographical subjects in their articles, such as their real names, the names of their family members, dates of birth, and places of residence, if the subject requests it, out of concerns relating to things like privacy, identity theft, etc, even if that information is found within reliable sources cited in the article. There is much precedent for this, and I've been involved in a number of these matters, during which I've sought ]' counsel, and the prevailing wisdom has always been to respect these wishes if the subject requests it. Examples include ], which ] that subject's real name, even though the sources cited in the article do so. Another example was , whose ''entire article'' was deleted, for similar reasons. Touré ] that his birth surname not be used in his article, and so we will respect that, as per this practice. ] (]) 23:35, 6 October 2011 (UTC) |
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