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			== "Death and funeral" section minor error ==
	== Ronin Farrow paternity ==

			This edit is specific, uncontroversial, and sensible. The beginning of this section starts with "at During the final years of his life,".
	There are ample reliable sources discussing Sintra as being the biological father of Ronin Farrow, so it seems odd that this isn’t even mentioned here. Indeed, it’s all over Farrow’s page so I doubt there are any BLP concerns. Thoughts about including something here? --] (]) 19:23, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

	~~Since~~ ~~there~~ ~~are~~ ~~"ample~~ ~~reliable sources," why not go ahead and add information about this? Or leave the sources here, and I'll do it~~. ] (]) 15:35, 8 ~~February~~ ~~2022~~ (UTC)		The at should be removed. ] (]) 23:29, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
			:Thank you. It has been removed. --] (]) 23:35, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
	After posting the reply above, I went to look for those ample sources. I didn't find any. Then I looked for those mentions on Ronan's (not Ronin) page. Couldn't find any of those, either. ] (]) 15:42, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

			== How could he remaster a song in 1998 if he was in active in 1995 ==
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⚫	== Frank Sinatra as ~~producer~~ ~~and~~ ~~director~~ ==
	It must be mentioned that Frank Sinatra was also a producer of many of his own records. In 1960, he formed his own label, ], and made quite a significant number of gold and platinum albums during the 1960s, 70s and 80s.

			Source : come fly with me 1998 digital remaster ] (]) 22:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
	As music director, Frank Sinatra directed the orchestra on several albums, the best known is Tone Poems which he also co-produced.

			== Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2024 ==
	As film and TV director, Frank Sinatra directed ] (1965), in which he also starred. he also directed two TV episodes of ].

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	As film producer, Frank Sinatra also produced several of the films and TV shows in which he appeared, such as, The Frank Sinatra Show (1952), ] (1956), ] (1959), ] (1964), ] (1965),] (1980) and more.]]] 18:31, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
			Please link "]" at its first appearance in the 1935–1939 section. ] (]) 10:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
	:Note Sinatra has no credit as a producer on ''A Hole in the Head'', and is an executive producer on ''The First Deadly Sin''. More importantly, putting "director" in the opening sentence would lead the reader to believe Sinatra directed a lot more than one film and two episodes of a variety show. While this should be mentioned in the article, it is not enough to support "director" being listed in the lead as an occupation. - ] (]) 14:00, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

			:Done. ] (]) 12:15, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
	== Wrong info about antidepressants ==

			== The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) ==
	The text says "He also suffered from dementia-like symptoms due to his usage of antidepressants." Actually, this nonsense was said by his manager, as the link shows.
	Moreover, it is a fact that antidepressants do not cause dementia-lime sympthoms. ] (]) 04:17, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

			The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) published a list of the 150 best-selling artists (albums and singles worldwide) in early 2006.
	==Length==

			Top ten:
	At over 16k words of readable prose, this article is too long to read comfortably. It would be beneficial to condense and/or migrate content to subarticles to make this one more readable. ] (]) 19:31, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

			Elvis Presley - 1,485,000,000
	== Lowercase or uppercase? ==

			The Beatles - 1,350,000,000
	A few days ago I had written the titles of all the paragraphs with a lowercase initial, a little while ago someone entered capital letters but did not respect the consistency. Obviously I will not intervene, but since the paragraph "]" is uppercase, while the paragraph "]" is lowercase, '''I would like us to agree on which one to insert for the whole article, whether lower or uppercase'''. ] (]) 17:24, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

	:@], there was a recent on the question of capitalization after a colon in a section heading. It found consensus for the use of either lowercase or uppercase; generally, an article should use one or the other consistently. After your edit, {{ping\|Dima110}} changed one heading to capital letters, and {{ping\|Carlinal}} changed several others. Perhaps they can explain the basis for their change and why they didn't make all of the headings consistent. ] ] 17:36, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
			Bing Crosby - 900,000,000
	::'''Eating Christmas candy while on the phone listening to someone's body of work''' Hm?

	::Oh, you mean . Well, I hoped I was consistent there, even if Consistency isn't my middle name. I focused only on the headings but not the sub-headings, which I now noticed and should've done. I also capitalized "Reprise years" because, uh, it was clearly referring to his ]? My apologies. I aimed to do what was standard, overall. ] (]) 19:41, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
			'''Frank Sinatra - 650,000,000'''

			Michael Jackson - 400,000,000

			ABBA - 370,000,000

			Elton John - 360,000,000

			Madonna - 350,000,000

			Cliff Richard - 250,000,000

			The Rolling Stones - 240,000,000

			Singers Male:

			Elvis Presley - 1,485,000,000

			Bing Crosby - 900,000,000

			'''Frank Sinatra - 650,000,000'''

			Michael Jackson - 400,000,000

			Elton John - 250,000,000

			Cliff Richard - 250,000,000

			For female singers:

			Madonna - 389,000,000 (singles+albums+live DVD)

			Nana Mouskouri - 250,000,000

			Céline Dion - 250,000,000

			Mariah Carey - 210,000,000

			Cher - 190,000,000

			Whitney Houston - 189,000,000

			Tina Turner - 180,000,000

			As for music groups:

			The Beatles - 1,350,000,000

			Abba - 370,000,000

			The Rolling Stones - 240,000,000

			Conclusion: Among male artists, the leader by far is Elvis Presley, with almost 1.5 billion records sold. As for women, Madonna is clearly in the lead, with more than 350 million records sold worldwide. Nana Mouskouri is in second place, with sales mainly in Europe. ] (]) 04:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

		⚫	== Frank Sinatra sold over 600 millons ==

			Sinatra sold over 600 millons records worldwide. ] (]) 01:18, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

			:Ref ? —] (]) 01:27, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

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"Death and funeral" section minor error

This edit is specific, uncontroversial, and sensible. The beginning of this section starts with "at During the final years of his life,".

The at should be removed. Hidude21 (talk) 23:29, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. It has been removed. --Onorem (talk) 23:35, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

How could he remaster a song in 1998 if he was in active in 1995

Source : come fly with me 1998 digital remaster 92.1.76.106 (talk) 22:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

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Please link "All or Nothing at All" at its first appearance in the 1935–1939 section. 2001:BB6:47ED:FA58:2901:1587:56A7:1C3 (talk) 10:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Done. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 12:15, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI)

The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) published a list of the 150 best-selling artists (albums and singles worldwide) in early 2006.

Top ten:

Elvis Presley - 1,485,000,000

The Beatles - 1,350,000,000

Bing Crosby - 900,000,000

Frank Sinatra - 650,000,000

Michael Jackson - 400,000,000

ABBA - 370,000,000

Elton John - 360,000,000

Madonna - 350,000,000

Cliff Richard - 250,000,000

The Rolling Stones - 240,000,000

Singers Male:

Elvis Presley - 1,485,000,000

Bing Crosby - 900,000,000

Frank Sinatra - 650,000,000

Michael Jackson - 400,000,000

Elton John - 250,000,000

Cliff Richard - 250,000,000

For female singers:

Madonna - 389,000,000 (singles+albums+live DVD)

Nana Mouskouri - 250,000,000

Céline Dion - 250,000,000

Mariah Carey - 210,000,000

Cher - 190,000,000

Whitney Houston - 189,000,000

Tina Turner - 180,000,000

As for music groups:

The Beatles - 1,350,000,000

Abba - 370,000,000

The Rolling Stones - 240,000,000

Conclusion: Among male artists, the leader by far is Elvis Presley, with almost 1.5 billion records sold. As for women, Madonna is clearly in the lead, with more than 350 million records sold worldwide. Nana Mouskouri is in second place, with sales mainly in Europe. Zeus Argon (talk) 04:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Frank Sinatra sold over 600 millons

Sinatra sold over 600 millons records worldwide. 157.100.143.88 (talk) 01:18, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Ref ? —Eihel (talk) 01:27, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

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