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Here's where we're at with progress on a season one ]. Twenty-three articles down, seven to go! ''Volume 1'' is probably closest to GA at this point in time, and ''Journey to Regionals'' likely needs the most work, though the concert tour might be tough as the sources aren't stellar. Still, we're three quarters of the way there :D ] 03:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC) | Here's where we're at with progress on a season one ]. Twenty-three articles down, seven to go! ''Volume 1'' is probably closest to GA at this point in time, and ''Journey to Regionals'' likely needs the most work, though the concert tour might be tough as the sources aren't stellar. Still, we're three quarters of the way there :D ] 03:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC) | ||
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I know it is early to be compiling this, but I wanted to start it nonetheless. This should be easy to update as articles covering the season progress. (Column placement is based on the Season 1 Good Topic also in progress.) -- |
I know it is early to be compiling this, but I wanted to start it nonetheless. This should be easy to update as articles covering the season progress. (Column placement is based on the Season 1 Good Topic also in progress.) --] <sub>(])</sub> 04:26, 24 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Huge pat on the back to ] for recently bringing ], ] and ] to Good Article status! :) Of the 20 central character articles, there are currently 3 GAs, 7 of B-class, 6 of C-class, 3 of Start-class and one redirect (]). Anyone want to 'adopt' any to polish up? I'm about 40% done with ], and I've been meaning to work on Terri, Brittany and Santana for months, but haven't quite gotten around to it. I might have a go at Mercedes in the near future, but I'm also liable to forget I've said that about five minutes after hitting 'Save page'. | Huge pat on the back to ] for recently bringing ], ] and ] to Good Article status! :) Of the 20 central character articles, there are currently 3 GAs, 7 of B-class, 6 of C-class, 3 of Start-class and one redirect (]). Anyone want to 'adopt' any to polish up? I'm about 40% done with ], and I've been meaning to work on Terri, Brittany and Santana for months, but haven't quite gotten around to it. I might have a go at Mercedes in the near future, but I'm also liable to forget I've said that about five minutes after hitting 'Save page'. | ||
On a related note, I've added some of the most frequently used development sources to the task force's ]. I'm having a bit of a mental block though, so if anyone can think of more, please add them! ] 18:33, 2 April 2011 (UTC) | On a related note, I've added some of the most frequently used development sources to the task force's ]. I'm having a bit of a mental block though, so if anyone can think of more, please add them! ] 18:33, 2 April 2011 (UTC) | ||
:Update (thanks to ] for the prod): up to 21 character articles, with 8 GAs (and a nomination being reviewed), 4 of B-class, 5 of C-class, and 2 of Start-class, with no redirects. More "adoptions" are always welcome! ] (]) 14:29, 18 August 2011 (UTC) | :Update (thanks to ] for the prod): up to 21 character articles, with 8 GAs (and a nomination being reviewed), 4 of B-class, 5 of C-class, and 2 of Start-class, with no redirects. More "adoptions" are always welcome! ] (]) 14:29, 18 August 2011 (UTC) | ||
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:::With the new ] C-class article (by someone not in the task force!) we're up to 10 GAs, 3 B-class, and <s>7</s> 8 C-class. ] (]) 15:48, 26 September 2011 (UTC) (corrected to 8 at 04:47, 28 September 2011 (UTC)) | :::With the new ] C-class article (by someone not in the task force!) we're up to 10 GAs, 3 B-class, and <s>7</s> 8 C-class. ] (]) 15:48, 26 September 2011 (UTC) (corrected to 8 at 04:47, 28 September 2011 (UTC)) | ||
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== Blatant bias to/against certain actors - very serious neutrality concern == | |||
I don't know much about ''Glee'', I've been editing some of the actors articles since July, but I think this lack of knowledge is a benefit because I come to this view from an understanding of WP policy and with subject knowledge from merely reading RS. I think there is a massive case of bias/NPOV violation in the case of Dianna Agron and Cory Monteith. Editing Agron's article, I noticed there was only one review to source a negative statement of one song, so I searched for some more to find the critical consensus - only to discover that every other review was more positive! The song is from the episode ], and I am disgusted at that article. While many reviews are positive, none of these are mentioned, but the sole negative review is mentioned ''three times'' including ''in the lead'' and in the caption of an image of Agron - this seems to go beyond merely UNDUE and into ATTACK territory. | |||
I went to the main ] article coincidentally to try and find sources for Naya Rivera and Agron's credits in the later seasons (unsourced there, by the way), and was shocked to find a wikivoice statement that there is "condemnation" of Monteith and Agron's singing. Again, this is sourced to a single review, no where near enough to support such a strong word! And some of the songs it lists - Monteith's "No Air", for example, I have found many supportive reviews for. So now I worry that this is a systemic issue, but not knowing enough and not wanting to spare time for discussion, I ignore it. Until today. I was adding some specific episode reviews to Agron's article for ] and ], which I noticed consistently praised her so thought such lauding worth mention. I visited the "Ballad" article and was again shocked to see no mention of her or Monteith (also reasonably well-praised) in the reception section ''at all''. It seems that when there isn't a single negative review to frame them poorly, they are omitted completely. Then I look to "Big Brother" and see that the coverage of Darren Criss's songs is celebratory but Agron's was "mixed"; I open the sources actually in the article, and there are ample negative reviews of Criss's songs from the same sources that have middling reviews of Agron used to portray her negatively, but these are not mentioned for Criss. I have serious neutrality concerns that these articles were written by someone with actor preferences that have clearly made it into the prose. | |||
The fact that these articles, many of which are little more than a plot, cast list, and five reviews, all poorly-sourced, pretend to be good articles, is frankly insulting to readers (and of course those at the GA process); but it is made worse by what appears to be an editor vendetta against two actors (at least, imagine if I kept checking!...) | |||
] 76,564 2,552 Start--] (]) 15:19, 30 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
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So I have now done some more checking. I just went to the "Pilot" article and note that it claims reviews are critical of Jessalyn Gilsig when they actually say she plays her awful character well; Agron is not mentioned in "Showmance" despite it being her first song; "Acafellas" frankly just insults the show rather than present an overview of critical commentary, which is perplexing, but more perplexing is that it uses praising Agron's voice in "Showmance" - obviously missing from that article - to help insult the rest of the show; "Journey" again fails to mention Agron despite much praise for her labor scene; looking further into the show, the problem persists: I remember "Mash Off" as an important Rivera episode (I'm also using the Glee fandom wiki articles for knowledge). At this article we have an image caption saying that Monteith and Rivera were praised, but this is Monteith's only mention (no source), while Rivera gets ample coverage. There is also a paragraph on a Hall & Oates mash off that fandom wiki says has lead vocals by Monteith and Agron; of course this is not mentioned, and while a majority of the reviews are positive it is the one calling it "an abomination" and "the worst" that leads off the paragraph. I can't be too critical, though, since in the next episode there is a paragraph on a Monteith song that starts by saying it was praised, but the wide range of reviews presented show it was much more polarizing. Of course, it then has an entire paragraph of quotations just insulting several ''characters'', which doesn't seem appropriate. | |||
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Perhaps different editors, or just a poor grasp of how to write a critical reception section, is the issue then - but this has evidently introduced bias even if not intentional. | |||
I invite editors to join the ] to close inactive task forces, including this one. ] (]) 12:09, 10 July 2021 (UTC) | |||
I know this page isn't trafficked much, but in case those who do know come along - or at least, editors with time - I don't even think this warrants discussion, there is clear bias running right through a lot of this project's articles, which needs purging. If I do get time, always hit and miss, I will address it myself, with one first aim being to take everything to GAR since it seems clear none qualify - if not because of bias, for the outdatedness, lack of coverage, and missing sources everywhere. | |||
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Season 1 Good Topic
edit | discuss Glee (season 1) 29 articles- "Pilot"
- "Showmance"
- "Acafellas"
- "Preggers"
- "The Rhodes Not Taken"
- "Vitamin D"
- "Throwdown"
- "Mash-Up"
- "Wheels"
- "Ballad"
- "Hairography"
- "Mattress"
- "Sectionals"
- "Hell-O"
- "The Power of Madonna"
- "Home"
- "Bad Reputation"
- "Laryngitis"
- "Dream On"
- "Theatricality"
- "Funk"
- "Journey to Regionals"
- List of songs in Glee (season 1)
- Glee: The Music, Volume 1
- Glee: The Music, Volume 2
- Glee: The Music, Volume 3 Showstoppers
- Glee: The Music, The Power of Madonna
- Glee: The Music, Journey to Regionals
Here's where we're at with progress on a season one Good Topic. Twenty-three articles down, seven to go! Volume 1 is probably closest to GA at this point in time, and Journey to Regionals likely needs the most work, though the concert tour might be tough as the sources aren't stellar. Still, we're three quarters of the way there :D Frickative 03:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- Great work! CTJF83 chat 16:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Season 2 Good Topic
edit | discuss Glee (season 2) 33 articles- "Audition"
- "Britney/Brittany"
- "Grilled Cheesus"
- "Duets"
- "The Rocky Horror Glee Show"
- "Never Been Kissed"
- "The Substitute"
- "Furt"
- "Special Education"
- "A Very Glee Christmas"
- "The Sue Sylvester Shuffle"
- "Silly Love Songs"
- "Comeback"
- "Blame It on the Alcohol"
- "Sexy"
- "Original Song"
- "A Night of Neglect"
- "Born This Way"
- "Rumours"
- "Prom Queen"
- "Funeral"
- "New York"
- List of songs in Glee (season 2)
- Glee: The Music, The Rocky Horror Glee Show
- Glee: The Music, The Christmas Album
- Glee: The Music, Volume 4
- Glee: The Music, Volume 5
- "Get It Right"
- "Loser Like Me"
- Glee: The Music Presents the Warblers
- Glee: The Music, Volume 6
- "Light Up the World"
I know it is early to be compiling this, but I wanted to start it nonetheless. This should be easy to update as articles covering the season progress. (Column placement is based on the Season 1 Good Topic also in progress.) --Another Believer (Talk) 04:26, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Season 3 Good Topic
edit | discuss Glee (season 3) 27 articles- "The Purple Piano Project"
- "I Am Unicorn"
- "Asian F"
- "Pot o' Gold"
- "The First Time"
- "Mash Off"
- "I Kissed a Girl"
- "Hold On to Sixteen"
- "Extraordinary Merry Christmas"
- "Yes/No"
- "Michael"
- "The Spanish Teacher"
- "Heart"
- "On My Way"
- "Big Brother"
- "Saturday Night Glee-ver"
- "Dance with Somebody"
- "Choke"
- "Prom-asaurus"
- "Props"
- "Nationals"
- "Goodbye"
- List of songs in Glee (season 3)
- Glee: The Music, The Christmas Album Volume 2
- Glee: The Music, Volume 7
- Glee: The Music, The Graduation Album
Since we're hoping to get the first episode submitted as a GAN within the week, and the next two before the end of October, it seemed a good idea to start this section now to show our progress. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:26, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Characters Good Topic
edit | discuss Characters of Glee 26 articles- Artie Abrams
- Blaine Anderson
- Shannon Beiste
- Rachel Berry
- Mike Chang
- Tina Cohen-Chang
- Shelby Corcoran
- Sam Evans
- Quinn Fabray
- Rory Flanagan
- Holly Holliday
- Finn Hudson
- Burt Hummel
- Kurt Hummel
- Mercedes Jones
- Dave Karofsky
- Santana Lopez
- Ryder Lynn
- Brittany Pierce
- Emma Pillsbury
- Noah Puckerman
- Terri Schuester
- Will Schuester
- Sue Sylvester
- Lauren Zizes
Huge pat on the back to HorrorFan121 for recently bringing Rachel Berry, Kurt Hummel and Quinn Fabray to Good Article status! :) Of the 20 central character articles, there are currently 3 GAs, 7 of B-class, 6 of C-class, 3 of Start-class and one redirect (Sam Evans). Anyone want to 'adopt' any to polish up? I'm about 40% done with Sue Sylvester, and I've been meaning to work on Terri, Brittany and Santana for months, but haven't quite gotten around to it. I might have a go at Mercedes in the near future, but I'm also liable to forget I've said that about five minutes after hitting 'Save page'.
On a related note, I've added some of the most frequently used development sources to the task force's resources section. I'm having a bit of a mental block though, so if anyone can think of more, please add them! Frickative 18:33, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
- Update (thanks to RyannnMaccc for the prod): up to 21 character articles, with 8 GAs (and a nomination being reviewed), 4 of B-class, 5 of C-class, and 2 of Start-class, with no redirects. More "adoptions" are always welcome! BlueMoonset (talk) 14:29, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
- Correction: 20 articles (not 21) including Characters of Glee; now 9 GAs, 3 B-class, 6 C-class, and 2 Start-class. BlueMoonset (talk) 08:01, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
- With the new Holly Holliday C-class article (by someone not in the task force!) we're up to 10 GAs, 3 B-class, and
78 C-class. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:48, 26 September 2011 (UTC) (corrected to 8 at 04:47, 28 September 2011 (UTC))
- With the new Holly Holliday C-class article (by someone not in the task force!) we're up to 10 GAs, 3 B-class, and
- Correction: 20 articles (not 21) including Characters of Glee; now 9 GAs, 3 B-class, 6 C-class, and 2 Start-class. BlueMoonset (talk) 08:01, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Most viewed start article in this Wikiproject
Alex Newell 76,564 2,552 Start--Coin945 (talk) 15:19, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Closing inactive task forces
I invite editors to join the discussion at WP:WikiProject Television to close inactive task forces, including this one. Gonnym (talk) 12:09, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
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