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Miss Universe 2024 editing

Hello It is permissible by Misplaced Pages to add in the flag icons of countries of competing nations in the table, especially on the day of the pageant. This allows for easier editing, once the pageant has been completed. Also, when adding winners of pageant, you need to read any instructions that are listed at the top of the editing box. I had to go in and correct the format you had for Miss Panama. And in reference to my earlier point, the flag icon etc was already added, ready for quick editing, before you added the winner. Thirdly, and lastly, you need to add citations for winners of the pageants. Just watching them live, as I did myself, and seeing the result, is not enough for Misplaced Pages. If you do not have a citation to a reputable source, you must add a citation needed tag, as I did on Miss Panama. If you have any questions about sources for pageants on Misplaced Pages, please refer to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Beauty Pageants/Sources. Kindest regards Heidi bradshaw (talk) 05:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Good morning @Heidi bradshaw. First, please avoid spamming my talk page with your canned message. Secondly, concerning the addition of flags before the election of the Miss in question, perhaps Misplaced Pages in English allows it (nothing proves it to me) but even if it has no interest apart from wanting to be in the sensational. Waiting for the Miss to be elected and for this information to be confirmed with a source either from the networks or from an online media is more in the encyclopedic spirit of Misplaced Pages. Besides, adding the flag after the election doesn't take much time. Thirdly regarding the sources, I did say (if you read a little more instead of persisting in putting up the flags before the election like one sells the skin of the bear before having killed it) that I would add sources when press articles come out (probably during the day) because I consider that a press article is more reliable than social networks in terms of sources. Finally regarding the instructions, I will try to be more careful next time. T931201 (talk) 06:09, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Good morning

I did not spam your page.

May I suggest you contact an experience editor on pageants user:Milesq, who will confirm that it IS permissible to have the entry ‘ready’ for the winner of a pageant, especially on the day of the contest.

Whilst I have been on Misplaced Pages for some 8 years, and am constantly learning, I will not take dictation from a user of just ONE month.

Kind regards

Heidi bradshaw (talk) 06:17, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Good morning @Heidi bradshaw.

You imposed this long and pre-prepared message on my talk page. Once again, nothing proves to me that this is authorized (if it really is, you have a help page to confirm it for me) and even if it is authorized, that doesn't change the fact that it has no use apart from making a duplicate table of candidates / tables of upcoming elections, leaving blank boxes in the table and reacting to sensationalism while the very principle of Misplaced Pages is to wait to have a source (whether from social networks or online presses) to add information, Misplaced Pages having an encyclopedic nature.

Besides, who tells you that I don't have experience with Misplaced Pages in other languages ​​or with Misplaced Pages in English? Not to mention that just because you've been registered for 8 years doesn't mean you're an expert or that I don't have anything to teach you, so please go back down one floor. T931201 (talk) 11:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

I am here to inform you that I would revert on your behalf had it not because the matter would be moot in a few hours. You are in the right per WP:NOW and WP:EDITCON, happy editing! Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 18:24, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

@Sir Kenneth Kho Thank you for this announcement, which reinforces my idea of ​​Misplaced Pages 🙂🙏🏻. I am of course not closed to debate or even to advice but I do not appreciate being looked down upon and threatened. T931201 (talk) 19:23, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Just to let you know I am leaving Misplaced Pages permanently of my own accord. I wish you well. Goodbye. Heidi bradshaw (talk) 21:16, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I would like to clarify the wording above the table being "the following contestants" and not "the following countries" was the reason you were correct here. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 22:08, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Leaving Misplaced Pages

Just to let you know I am leaving Misplaced Pages permanently of my own accord. I wish you well.

Goodbye. Heidi bradshaw (talk) 21:22, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

@Heidi bradshaw

I'm not asking you to leave Misplaced Pages permanently, your work is useful to the community. I just ask you not to look down on me and to discuss things instead of wanting to be absolutely right.

However, I apologize if my words hurt you, that was not my intention. I just got upset that you looked down on me and didn't want to talk. T931201 (talk) 21:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

I appreciate @Heidi bradshaw's intent when blanking this talk page, there is a way to accomplish this according to WP:MUTUAL, a user may propose an agreement with another user to simultaneously remove both of their comments, this is a preferable outcome if both users can agree.

Relevant advice

1. WP:DROPTHESTICK: If the debate died a natural death‍—‌let it remain dead. It is over, let it go. Nobody cares anymore. Hard to stomach, but you're going to have to live with it.

2. WP:NOSHAME: The truth is, provided that you had your own good intentions when you made the contributions, even if others disagree with the changes you made, you have done nothing wrong. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 22:20, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

MF 2025

Can you please stop disruptive editing on the Miss France 2025 article? The source I provided is an interview with Lilou Émeline-Artuso herself which states she is from Antibes. She was crowned Miss Mandelieu-la-Napoule, which is why that town is sometimes being cited as her hometown, but she makes it very clear that she is from Antibes. Her personal accounts such as LinkedIn cite her hometown as Antibes as well, but I am not even using that as a source here, just mentioning it.

Quote: Cette élection-là s’est déroulée il y a environ un mois. Antiboise de naissance ayant en partie grandi dans la cité des Remparts, Lilou Emeline-Artuso s’est lancée dans cette folle épopée mandolocienne faute de concours antibois.

References

1. ""Je ne réalise pas encore vraiment": qui est Lilou Emeline-Artuso, la nouvelle Miss Côte d'Azur?". Nice-Matin (in French). 5 August 2024.

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Hello @Jjj1238, it is your modifications that are disruptive. To begin with in your source, Miss Côte d'Azur does not indicate that she was born in Antibes, it is the local press that says so. Then, I can cite numerous sources (including some from the national press or from the Miss Paca committee) indicating that it is indeed Mandelieu-la-Napoule and not in Antibes (1,2 3 4, ) Furthermore, Noelastardu54 agrees with me. T931201 (talk) 08:20, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Eurosong 2025

Hello, friendly reminder to avoid edit warring even if talk page supports you, you've made eight reverts on the page between 12:24, 9 August 2024 to 08:08, 10 August 2024. The three-revert rule is actually quite unequivocal on this, so no more than three reverts in 24 hours. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 09:56, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Sir Kenneth Kho 👋🏻🙂 . I hope are you well. Among Misplaced Pages's rules, we also find the fact that each added information must be accompanied by a source whose traceability is verifiable and whose comments are clear and unequivocal, which is not the case for Misplaced Pages. France at Eurovision 2025 (currently) hence my deletions. I don't want to get into an editing war either, but unfortunately we're getting into it because some Internet users ignore the rules and the opinions of other Internet users... It's not me who should say that . T931201 (talk) 10:02, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

I know, but the three-revert rule only makes an exception if the unsourced content is about biography of living person. The verifiability policy can be invoked in the talk page or by reverting if you have not three reverts in the past 24 hours. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 10:06, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

@Sir Kenneth Kho The rule of traceability is more important, not to mention that I tried to exchange in a calm and respectful manner on the discussion page before making these revocations, and all that to be insulted as a "crazy" who has "a serious problem” so thank you very much ... T931201 (talk) 10:10, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm aware Sir Kenneth Kho above has made you aware of this but I'm leaving this formal notice since the 3RR is unequivocally clear about this:

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. ser! 10:12, 10 August 2024 (UTC)