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== Can we change the registration date to July 13, 1914? == | |||
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It is inaccurate to have their actual registration date on July 27, 1914. That is an amended registration date. Please see the source for their actual registration date, July 13, 1914. | |||
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https://archive.org/details/ApplicationToRegisterIglesiaNiKristoDated13thOfJuly1914/Application%20to%20Register%20Iglesia%20ni%20Kristo%20dated%2013th%20of%20July%201914/ ] (]) 23:40, 1 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:The Iglesia ni Cristo has maintained that they were founded on July 27 (https://web.archive.org/web/20120821051154/http://www.incmedia.org/inc/history.html), what do you mean by "an amended registration date"? Amended by whom, and when? | |||
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:I think more information is needed on how your document was obtained and the type of document this is to verify its authenticity and the validity of the July 13 claim. July 13 is exactly 2 weeks before July 27. Thus, depending on the processes surrounding this document, it could be that it could take 2 weeks for the registration to take effect, or some legal phenomenon with a delay period such that the July 27 claim is accurate. ] (]) 18:45, 15 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
== HD Version of the Revised Seal? == | |||
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The current seal on the article is too low quality. ] (]) 03:46, 18 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:{{re|FreiGenesis}} Since I'm fairly certain the seal is protected by copyright, we'd have to replicate it using public domain assets. I'll ask a friend of a friend to take a stab at it, but it might be a while. ~ ] (]) 04:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Unfortunately that's the only publicly available file of the current iteration of the seal at the moment (without the compass and the triangular ruler).] (]) 13:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
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== Inaccurate Population Figures in Opening Section == | |||
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So, I was looking at the opening section of the page and noticed this portion at the end: | |||
Please update the reference for the following source: | |||
"5. Adriel Obar Meimban (1994). 'A Historical Analysis of the Iglesia ni Cristo: ''Cult'' in the Far East, Philippine Islands' (PDF)." | |||
"In 2010, the Philippine census by the National Statistics Office found that '''0.0025 percent of the population''' in the Philippines are affiliated with the Iglesia ni Cristo, making it '''the smallest religion by number of adherents in the Philippines,''' Roman Catholicism (87.1%) and Islam (1.6%)." | |||
The original title of the book, as verified through the Wayback Machine, is: | |||
Take note of the bolded portions. These parts have several things wrong with them, which I will enumerate: | |||
"A Historical Analysis of the Iglesia ni Cristo: ''Christianity'' in the Far East, Philippine Islands." | |||
1. The first source, which uses the 2010 national census, indicates an adherent population of 2,251,941. Now, if we are to accept the claim that the adherents only represent 0.0025 of the population, it would have to mean that the Philippine Republic, as a whole, has a population of 900,776,400. This is clearly not the case, seeing as the very same source indicates a total population of merely 92,097,978. | |||
⚫ | Here is the archived link for reference: https://web.archive.org/web/20110826002343/http://repository.cc.sophia.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/123456789/5124/1/200000079942_000012000_95.pdf | ||
2. The second source, which uses the CIA World Factbook, has the population of adherents at around 2.3%, which is three orders of magnitude larger than the quoted portion of the wiki entry above. | |||
I propose correcting the reference to reflect the accurate title. ] (]) 00:30, 23 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
3. The adherents are clearly not the smallest religion in the Philippines. The ] has an adherent population of around 10,000 or so according to their wiki entry. Even the ] only reported 728,295 adherents in the Philippine Republic. | |||
:Fixed citation. Regards. ] (]) 03:56, 23 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
As it stands, the adherents' population is actually the third or fourth largest, depending on if you count all Evangelicals in the country as a single, unified, religious body. | |||
] '''Already done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 05:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
Also, while we're on the subject, Roman Catholicism is actually 80.58% or 80.9% based on the first and second source, respectively. Meanwhile, Islam is either 5.57% or 5%, which is several percentages larger than what the quoted portion claims. | |||
] (]) 18:56, 14 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
Apparently, part of the Infobox was also altered. I recall it being "Undisclosed; Potentially 2.5 Million" or something to that effect. As of this moment, it says "Not disclosed; over 2.5k". | |||
] (]) 19:06, 14 February 2018 (UTC) | |||
== INC International == | |||
An IP in the Philippines has called the INC "international". As its members are mostly of Philipino origin, I am not sure that this is true. | |||
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Depends on how one defines what an "international" religion is. It certainly operates a large number of churches in the United States, among other countries. The fact many of the pioneering members are Filipino immigrants doesn't really say much beyond how it initially propagated. It doesn't help that the places where it's most established, eg. Hawaii, California, have a high number of ethnic Filipinos to begin with due to over a century of historical migration. And then we have to factor in all the Filipinos who didn't convert until after they migrated to said locations. Of course, even taking into account all of these factors, there still remains a large number of non-Filipinos who are converting, case in point the Hispanics in the US and the Native Africans in both South Africa and Lesotho, among other places. | |||
And it's '''F'''ilipino, not '''P'''hilipino. | |||
] (]) 22:07, 22 May 2018 (UTC) | |||
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Can we change the registration date to July 13, 1914?
It is inaccurate to have their actual registration date on July 27, 1914. That is an amended registration date. Please see the source for their actual registration date, July 13, 1914.
https://archive.org/details/ApplicationToRegisterIglesiaNiKristoDated13thOfJuly1914/Application%20to%20Register%20Iglesia%20ni%20Kristo%20dated%2013th%20of%20July%201914/ 99.48.153.188 (talk) 23:40, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- The Iglesia ni Cristo has maintained that they were founded on July 27 (https://web.archive.org/web/20120821051154/http://www.incmedia.org/inc/history.html), what do you mean by "an amended registration date"? Amended by whom, and when?
- I think more information is needed on how your document was obtained and the type of document this is to verify its authenticity and the validity of the July 13 claim. July 13 is exactly 2 weeks before July 27. Thus, depending on the processes surrounding this document, it could be that it could take 2 weeks for the registration to take effect, or some legal phenomenon with a delay period such that the July 27 claim is accurate. WackyAurelionSol (talk) 18:45, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
HD Version of the Revised Seal?
The current seal on the article is too low quality. FreiGenesis (talk) 03:46, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- @FreiGenesis: Since I'm fairly certain the seal is protected by copyright, we'd have to replicate it using public domain assets. I'll ask a friend of a friend to take a stab at it, but it might be a while. ~ Pbritti (talk) 04:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately that's the only publicly available file of the current iteration of the seal at the moment (without the compass and the triangular ruler).Hariboneagle927 (talk) 13:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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Please update the reference for the following source:
"5. Adriel Obar Meimban (1994). 'A Historical Analysis of the Iglesia ni Cristo: Cult in the Far East, Philippine Islands' (PDF)."
The original title of the book, as verified through the Wayback Machine, is:
"A Historical Analysis of the Iglesia ni Cristo: Christianity in the Far East, Philippine Islands."
Here is the archived link for reference: https://web.archive.org/web/20110826002343/http://repository.cc.sophia.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/123456789/5124/1/200000079942_000012000_95.pdf
I propose correcting the reference to reflect the accurate title. Tagaluto (talk) 00:30, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed citation. Regards. Sanglahi86 (talk) 03:56, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Already done PianoDan (talk) 05:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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