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== ''The Bugle'': Issue CXVIII, January 2016 ==
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I have just caught up with your extended comments at SlrubensteinII. That was a conduct RfC but not about my past history on the site; so I regard those as misplaced.
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== ''The Bugle'': Issue CXIX, February 2016 ==
In my current ArbCom candidature, on the other hand, the hustings provide a forum where they would be visibly on-topic. I have already dealt there with two aspects of the Hoffman case. The admin at the centre of that case and I have been in touch, and dealing with our joint history in that way. This has moved the situation on.


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From my point of view, the RfC served its purpose: it resolved a dispute and cleared the air. What is more, it is misleading to say there was no significant content to it, though the talk page is much more interesting reading than the RfC itself. Between Slrubenstein and me there remains a big distance on blocking policy, and policy generally. In legal terms it is like the difference between ] and ], with me being on the side of the written policies I was referencing. Now, that is not something to dismiss lightly, and in fact I want to digest it for a little while before deciding where it leads. Unwritten customs and norms do matter here.
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Further, there is more to the ] situation than many of the RfC participants would allow. I am going into this saddening aspect of the business offline.
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Just to let you know, the Featured Picture ] is scheduled to be Picture of the Day on July 17, 2016. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at ]. Thank you for all of your contributions!&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 00:49, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
So, while contesting your view of me expressed at the RfC, I invite you to treat me as a serious, thoughtful person. I do feel caricatured. Like everyone else, you may raise points about me from the period 2006-2008 at the hustings. It is fairer on me, I say, if you make your points there, since it is a forum where I am properly held to account.
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== Interest In Learning Restoration Practices ==
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Durova, per your userpage I am reaching out to see what I can assist with in re: restoration of images or other documents that can be uploaded to Misplaced Pages/Wikimedia. I have no knowledge of this subject at the moment and am a fledgling user, so any information you have will be beneficial—necessary programs, practices and all the rest. Cheers! ] (]) 17:17, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
:Thank you for replying, Charles. Opinions vary on whether statements about the filing party are appropriate at conduct RFCs. A couple of years ago I would have agreed with you regarding venue. As a practical decision on this occasion I wanted to raise the concerns in a manner that minimized drama. If you review my posts to the Matthew Hoffman case you'll find ample good faith extended toward you. It's good to see you and Slrubenstein settling your differences.


== POTD notification ==
:Your offer to bring the matter to your ArbCom candidacy questions makes a lot of sense. A reason why I hadn't seriously considered doing so at this juncture is that I'm one of the people conducting candidate interviews for WikiVoices. The WikiVoices regulars who set up the interview structure agreed to recuse from that side of things. Of course if you agreed to a candidate interview (and we'd love to have you) another interviewer could be provided.
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Hi Lise,


Just to let you know, the Featured Picture ] is scheduled to be Picture of the Day on September 24, 2016. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at ]. Thank you for all of your contributions!&nbsp;—&nbsp;] (]) 01:24, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
:::OK, very reasonable. ] (]) 18:04, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
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== Possible removal of AWB access due to inactivity ==
:Something else to be considered, though, is whether to raise the concern about Oversight in another venue. Not sure where that would go; probably over at Meta. When I interact with Mathsci in the future I want to know how serious his lapse of judgment was. He has disclosed to me what took place last summer and his regrets about it. But what happened in October remains an open question. Did he wander into a gray area where reasonable people interpret policy differently, or did he have a lapse in judgment so serious that Oversight was necessary? Whether or not you want to dwell on that, it makes a big difference in how much I trust him from now on. I'm probably not alone in that worry. You introduced that doubt to the discussion and then you kept it an unanswered question. Mathsci insists Oversight didn't play a role. I want to believe him. Yet if he's given a false assurance that redoubles my concern. It just isn't fair to a longtime contributor or to the community to hang that doubt in the air. If no clause in the Oversight policy covers this situation then maybe one ought to be written because this certainly appears outside the spirit of that function. You could eliminate the concerns that might take that further by replying: was it used or not?


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:When I embarked upon the conversation with Mervyn Emrys above I wanted to present a dilemma: in order to uncover two of this website's most dedicated vandals (JB196 and the Joan of Arc vandal) I did something not too different from what Mathsci did and I was thanked for it on both occasions. That's not to say Mathsci was right--circumstances certainly weren't the same. Yet having climbed pretty far out on a nearby limb gives a good perspective on how dimly lit the policy really is in that part of the woods. I have asked both the Committee and the community to clarify, thus far with no success. Hardly anyone takes interest in such matters until actual instances occur, and then too often it gets discussed in terms of personalities rather than principles. As you can see, the conversation with Mervyn never reached achieved the basic agreement over good faith where such dialog could begin. To be candid, I look at and am appalled. I feel remorseful for not intervening and the only excuse is virtual certainty that any attempt would be fruitless. Although you and I disagree on a few key occasions and in particular ways, you do a great deal for this project and are a very valued member of the community. Can we both agree that if Mervyn had gone to that poster's userpage, the reception would likely have been far less friendly?


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:Another thing comes to mind. When you refer to the RFC you assert ''it is misleading to say there was no significant content to it''. Could you point to any example where I expressed such a notion? My opinion did explicitly state ''Charles is not the only involved party whose conduct merits scrutiny''. There wasn't a need to reiterate points that had already been entered elsewhere in formal opinions. In the Midnight Syndicate arbitration I posted a similar fill-in late in the proceeding and explicitly stated it as such. Was the omission of a corresponding avowal what prompted your surmise? And that segues to my request that you review your correspondence with Shoemaker's Holiday during the lead-up to the Matthew Hoffman case: are you quite sure it elucidated all that your RFAR represented?


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:::The argument that the RfC had "content" is my counter to the idea that I was simply being vindictive in pursuing the RfC. Dispute resolution was here used properly: not all the "comment" was of gemstone quality, but there are pearls in there. So I was defending the process, as appropriately applied in this case, and leaving the matter resolved as to editors and clarified as to general matters at issue. ] (]) 18:04, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
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== User group for Military Historians ==
:Regarding the rest, when I raised concerns at that arbitration you didn't reply, last month at your user talk you called me off topic. At RFC talk you sidestepped again. Fewer than 24 hours elapsed after my post before the RFC closed. During that time I didn't tell anyone at all that I had posted. Yet ten experienced and respected people signed on that quickly, some calling it the very heart of the matter. I didn't mention the clarification motion you filed on the Tobias Conradi case, but to be candid I consider it very bad form that you failed to acknowledge your authorship of the motion in either the header or with an initiating section signature, yet voted upon it as arbitrator in the same post.


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:::Not so much bad form as unfamiliarity with the current generation of templates there. Since I voted as "proposing", explicitly, I hope you will accept the explanation. ] (]) 18:04, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


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Your proposal stated that your purpose was to get ahead of events: isn't that the purview of community-based motions and consensus? I kept this out of the opinion because it wasn't a direct parallel between last winter's case and this fall's RFC, but it fits into the pattern of stratification-inducing actions. Whether the pattern is deliberate or not, it gives me pause. You and I appear to disagree on one issue fundamentally: I view such a pattern, if adequately documented, with broad relevance. It speaks to the core of our site culture; its ripples have far-reaching impact upon the choices of our fellow Wikipedians. Read Raymond arritt's words from last December if you doubt that assertion. First I regarded the matter as an aberration, then sought to interact unobtrusively. There have been suggestions to open an RFC on you; I don't want to do that. The private correspondence could drive it to RFAR--you know how things go. Is there a better way? <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 00:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


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== April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive ==
Charles, I haven't forgotten you. An earlier draft reply got eaten by my cat (well not really). This is a summary. You already have an explanation of why I am not posting election questions. Regarding email, it does not inspire confidence to see you invite me to correspond offsite in the same post as you demonstrate the very cause of my reluctance.


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Earlier this thread you stated it ''is misleading to say there was no significant content to it ''. After I reminded you that I had asserted no such thing, you returned a longer explanation of that opinion's wrongness. Now if the leadup had taken place offsite, another Wikipedian reading this thread could suppose I had been befuddled or out of my depth.


* tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
Fortunately, since the previous discussion was entirely on-wiki, I have the power to demonstrate that you were going on about a complete red herring. That's a power I prefer to retain. And the reason I value it--which I've alluded to twice already--is my belief that your off-target communications in a series of a series of emails prompted you to seek and obtain the desysopping of a fellow Wikipedian, and in doing so you bypassed the dispute resolution that had been set up to resolve exactly that sort of good faith miscommunication. Allow me remind you, he has made over five dozen featured content contributions, is a sysop in good standing on a sister WMF site, and has never been the subject of dispute resolution except in relation to the case you initiated. Contributors of his talent and dedication are few and far between. There is no one else at WMF who restores historic etchings half as well as he does. I should know; I'm second best. If there's any silver lining to that arbitration it's that he and I met and began collaborating on media content.
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Now this is not a personal grievance. You're a fantastic contributor and I wish you the best. Yet none of us are perfect. I'm not; I recognize my shortcomings and do my utmost to rectify them. Would that you did the same. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 19:01, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


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My edits in articles related to activities of the ] and it secsessor Congress of Free Ukrainians my data removed by group of editors under different spices.
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reverting my edits instead I try to follow the reccomendations . Things are removed - a documented link between Nazi and OUN-B actions and "tail" of OUN-B secsessor (like ''genocide became the tool of Ukrainian nationalist dreams, laying the foundations for a prospective – and chimerical – Ukrainian state on the basis of conquest, subjugation and, ultimately, the annihilation of Ukraine’s principal enemies in eastern Ukraine – Jews and Poles'' and similar other facts removed.) Could you please advice me a solution in this matter - does anyone can assist me at least in fixing some of my typo instead of blanking and replace correct Wiki link - ] and ] with an irrelevant link "to new order in ]" and "]" - So at least this side of my edits will not be a ]. Thank you in advance] (]) 07:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:You appear to be engaged in an edit war with several editors. It would be a good idea to gain consensus for your edits before reinserting the same material again. If you try mediation or a content request for comments. Best wishes, <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 15:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
::I try to got any respond from them about thier consern about my referensed data, and why they return texts which actually does not exit at sources given as ref- but they refuse to do so (even in uncivil manner - see only one from manyexample below)- they comes simply to refert my edits. RFC was placed at least two times but noone responde - since topics are too complex. Please advice a solutions. I've seen a clear bad faith editing (no contribution - only reverts and blanking) and spoiling the WP reliability by inserting ]es. Thank you in advance] (])
:::Editors simply don't want to discuss any WP:V, NPOV, RS referenced facts . Only and simply reverts - becouse WP is assumed as soap box for distributing OUN-B version of history. Thank you in advice] (]) 14:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Could be a good candidate for mediation then. Entirely outside my understanding, so not much else I can do besides suggest dispute resolution. Hope it helps. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 17:25, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:See - no intent to discuss. I don't think if DR helps - I've spent almost a year in attempt to made WP a reliable source - a MB of text hundreds of links, citation etc. - it have a tiny results - my achivement only and rest - again blanking, blanking,blanking, misrepresent my text and at last uncivility. May be exist an alter way? What about WP:VAN?] (]) 22:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::I suggest filing a ], myself. Tends to contain the fires, at any rate. I might mediate. ] (]) 23:54, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Thank you. I'll try to do so - but how to better identify an issues with articles - as for instance here ] and here ? - Users refused to accept my referenced edits becouse ....? (may be they don't like to have this info in article?) Like this comment .] (]) 15:21, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
::::This really is beyond my abilities. Recommend mediation. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 16:31, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


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:::::Just an FYI: the editor above has been disrupting articles for years, provoking at times some uncivil comments from others (I admit to having been provoked). He has been warned of such behavior here: and here: Despite such warnings he continues to smear others, such as here when he implied that members of the Ukrainian community abroad are Nazi collaborators or murderers: and'''when he even accused other editors of supporting Nazi collaborators''': . Glancing at his edit history , it's mostly either low-level edit warring (doesn't violate 3R, but has been reverting other people's works every few days for months if not years) or unpleasant arguments on the talk pages that take up others editors' valuable time. If you think that I'm just another edit warrior, feel free to look at my own record of contributions, partiuclrly barnstars received for working cooperatively with those who have different viewpoints , etc. and compare it to that of the editor above.] (]) 15:47, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
(outdent) What I don't understand is why this thread is even here, much less why it has grown. I am not a mediator and cannot block if disruption exists. Nor do I have the requisite understanding to determine whether this is a content dispute or misuse of sources. Unfortunately all this can achieve is a few rather obvious referrals elsewhere. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 15:56, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry for continuing it! ] (]) 16:15, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


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Bold move and highly appropriate to call "consensus" so early. ] (]) 16:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC) ] (]) 02:30, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
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:Thank you. :) <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 17:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


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], a featured picture ], has been proposed for replacement with ]. Your comments are welcome at ]. ] 20:28, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi Durova. I'm confused by . Was that directed towards me? - ] (]) 17:22, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
:Apologies for any confusion, no. It was directed at the editor whose user page it was. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 17:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::Right. Thanks for clarifying. - ] (]) 17:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


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], a featured picture you nominated, has been ] with a ]. Your comments are welcome. ] 17:16, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi Durova, per your request, I have unblocked Bus stop and release him into your capable care. I have left the terms of his probation at ]. If he becomes a problem, please let me know and I will re-block him. For your, his, and my sakes, I hope he becomes a productive editor. Cheers,--] ] ] '''''<font color="green">]</font>''''' 13:54, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
*The same applies for ] - see ] and ]. ] 18:16, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
:Thank you. :) <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 16:33, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


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Dear Durova, while I am still the rock song stubs, I have also with ] on ]. Anyway, given that your username deals with a ] who fought in the Napoleonic Wars and the novel concerns Russians in the Napoleonic Wars, I thought you might be interested in helping. If not, no big deal and again, I am also still working on those rock stubs too. In any event, I hope all is well with you. Best, --]<sup>'']''</sup> 01:47, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
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:Thank you very much for the offer, and am so glad to see you doing good work in both areas. It's been nearly 20 years since I read War and Peace. Doubt I remember many of the character names now besides Boris and Natasha and Bullwinkle. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 02:15, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
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::I have also read the cliff notes and seen both the American and Russian cinematic adaptations (I think the two most famous). I guess I am more pro than anti-Napoleon, so it's from the opposite perspective of mine. And while I say more pro- than anti-, that does not mean I do not have some serious issues with Napoleon as for example I cannot stand adultery. Anyway, you know they do have a Bulwinkle pinball game on Xbox Live Arcade now... Best, --]<sup>'']''</sup> 02:35, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
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::I had assumed the ArbCom came to that conclusion because the editors in question were permitted to return to the articles despite technically being confirmed as socks. Otherwise, I can't imagine why they weren't indefinitely topic-banned, along with the IP addresses in question. But in any event, it's time for me to move the discussion to AE. --<font color="green">]</font>] 18:39, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
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::::Hmmm... That smacks of trying to make a right out of two wrongs. Considering that all at once these accounts are active again, I think that's a decision that definitely needs to be undone. I have no irons in the fire about Scientology itself one way or the other, but I have '''strong''' feelings about having no choice on whether to work with sockpuppets other than not working on the article at all. --<font color="green">]</font>] 18:57, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
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:Thanks very much for the heads up. It was a pleasure. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 17:35, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


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== Arbitration motion regarding Durova ==
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Thank you for your consideration. I am still very new, trying to remember to do everything right, and learning html. I have photos to post on the article "Dixie Roberts". I worked on that article last Feb. At that time, Willow helped me alot, she is so nice. She said you could help me with the photos. I have seen from your page that you are so busy, so i kept putting off doing this, and I was busy on a couple of books, myself. But now Ms. Roberts is in a medical facility, so I think it is prudent to work out the details about using these photos, soon. These photos are from circa 1940's, and the photographers are long gone to their photographic reward in the sky! Dixie has the original photos. I gather that this means she owns the copyright, since the images are of her. Is there a form that she could sign or something like that, where she could give permission to post photos? I guess that would mean a form for releasing the photos into the public domain? Or would I have to make up a form for that? Once she signs a form like that, I assume I must get a copy to the wiki somehow, and then I can post a photo, or a couple of photos, right? (Are we limited to one photo? Or can a couple be posted?) Most of her photos are just of her. But there is one photo of her and Gene Kelly, which would be fun to post. But is that problematic, since he is in the photo? It is an original photo, and no one else is in it but the two of them, and they are looking at the camera, so they knew their photo was being taken. Thanks for any help you can offer, I will try not to take up too much of your time.
I LOVE your sock puppets! (My books are in the sewing/craft field) ] (]) 07:15, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you very much for all your patience and hard work. It's too bad this comes up on a holiday weekend or I'd double check with the Foundation immediately. But perhaps under the circumstances an ordinary form letter would be adequate. The simplest thing would be to locate a public domain release form online and fill out the details. You could also get that from a paralegal service or a lawyer (it's not my place to give legal advice; these are just options). Once she signs it, please let me know and I'll see about getting this processed through the OTRS system. The system is set up for people who have email, etc., but in a case like this we'll find a way to work around that. Best wishes. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 17:32, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


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:Thank you very much. Elinor brought up some things I hadn't known before, particularly about how the mailing list thread got started. Sad course of events. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 06:22, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


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