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what was the outcome of the 1987 lawsuit? |
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] (]) 15:00, 31 January 2024 (UTC) |
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There seems to be a dispute about the infobox image and I think it might be a good idea to discuss this rather than continue to revert each other. My personal view is that the ] is a better image because the ] looks like it was taken while Newman was on the toilet and the lighting makes it harder to look at.-- ] (]) 09:02, 30 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:They're both good, but I'd go for the john shot. His eyes and face are lit better, with more color and depth, where the other one is in shadow. It's also a bit distracting to have two people instead of one. --] (]) 09:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC) |
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::I certainly agree that a picture of Paul alone would be preferable but I find it difficult to look at the publicity shot. ] would have been good if it didn't have other peoples' heads in the way. Maybe ] would be better? -- ] (]) 09:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:I vote for "Paul Newman - publicity". It's a nice clear head shot and comes from the era when he was at his peak. --'''] ]''' 13:11, 30 December 2013 (UTC) |
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*My position is fairly obvious; the publicity shot is awful. The lighting is utter garbage, and it makes him look very unpleasant. I cannot understand why people think that is an acceptable picture to use, given how poor the colours are. I'd be perfectly happy with the 1954 picture; the lighting is reasonable, he doesn't look like he's badly ill, and there's nothing wrong with black-and-white. The 1987 one isn't really that good, and he's quite a lot older in that one. ] ] (legitimate alternate account of ]) 13:22, 30 December 2013 (UTC) |
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*I don't dislike the publicity shot, and I think it is better for this use than the dual shot (which could be used later In the article). I do prefer the black and white however. --]<sup>(]) </sup> 01:12, 31 December 2013 (UTC) |
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*Unfortunately, some editor just tagged ] for deletion. Apparently it was taken and copyrighted around 2006, just before he died, which they feel is more likely than it being a prime example of ]. Newman was noted for looking youthful. The 1954 shot is my 2nd choice. --] (]) 19:48, 30 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:*It's highly unlikely that the image itself was from 2006; that is two years before he died, and he would've been 81. If you look at the deletion thread on Commons, you'll see that the copyright is attributed to the company who initially uploaded the still, and not the original image creators; I would expect that request to fail. ] ] (legitimate alternate account of ]) 20:08, 30 December 2013 (UTC) |
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*Sorry Luke, but after looking at all the options I pick the publicity shot as well. It's a shame, though, that we don't have more choices. ] (]) 05:22, 31 December 2013 (UTC) |
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**The Getty Images version of the color publicity shot is much better than the version being debated, but it is watermarked. The photo with Woodward is wonderful and belongs in the article, but not in the infobox. I vote for the 1954 image, cropped tighter to his face. I hope a better freely licensed image can be found. What a wonderful guy he was! Excuse that opinionated comment. ] ] 05:36, 31 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:::The photo of him and Woodward is still in the Personal life section, so I added a new one for the lead. The 1954 photo was his debut film and not really a prime career photo. Hope the new one is OK. --] (]) 08:44, 31 December 2013 (UTC) |
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::::I like the new image, seems more suitable for the infobox than any of the other images in the article. -- ] (]) 08:52, 31 December 2013 (UTC) |
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::::*I'm happy as well. My objection was to the terrible publicity shot, so :) And yeah, the Woodward/Newman shot definitely has to be in the article. ] ] (legitimate alternate account of ]) 11:09, 31 December 2013 (UTC) |
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::::*Cullen, I have it on good authority that you and Newman used to go toe to toe in male beauty contests. Is this true? ] (]) 15:41, 31 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:::::*Well done, {{U|Light show}}. As for you, {{U|Drmies}}, I have two aphorisms for 2014: "Question authority!" is the well known one. I wrote the other one, "Question those who question authority". ] ] 18:05, 31 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:::To be fair and play it safe, I also gave ] a new lead image. It's not that I believe in ghosts or anything, but . . . . ] (]) 18:59, 31 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:::*Not a bad idea whatsoever, particularly as that image is very good. I'm glad this has been rectified to pretty much everyone's contentment. ] ] (legitimate alternate account of ]) 19:45, 31 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Contentious edit regarding Newman's mother == |
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It seems that about Newman's mother is contentious. Rather than edit warring, it seems sensible to discuss this here. |
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My view is that the assertions made shouldn't be in the article because they seem to imply something through an ], rather than any secondary source that provide actual evidence that Newman's mother isn't of the ancestry stated in the article. -- ] (]) 20:20, 4 January 2014 (UTC) |
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:The evidence re her baptism can be disputed. The immigration-record evidence, no. I found that record; that was clearly hers; go look at yourself. ] (]) 00:39, 5 January 2014 (UTC) |
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::In edit summary, the IP editor mentioned a link to a St. Mary's University of Minnesota web page that discusses the advantages of primary sources in doing research at the university level. That is all well and good for university research. But Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia and we simply don't publish ] of any kind. Instead, we summarize what the best quality ] say about the topic. The best of these will be secondary sources. "Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation." Accordingly, I am not comfortable relying on what someone says they saw in an immigration document for a factual assertion in this biography. Instead, we should summarize what the best biographers of Newman say about his ancestry. ] ] 03:34, 5 January 2014 (UTC) |
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*~~ ] (]) 04:05, 2 November 2014 (UTC) |
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::Newman drank a lot of beer and probably had an affair. So what? ] ] 04:54, 2 November 2014 (UTC) |
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== Paul Newman movie credits == |
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Paul Newman had a starring role in a 1963 movie called "The Prize" I did not see this mentioned in his Misplaced Pages biography. Did I miss it or should it be verified and added? |
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Fred Dreis] (]) 01:19, 28 May 2016 (UTC) |
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:It's not exactly a major film. Plus the image in the infobox is from the film (the caption gives the title and year) and it's in ]. That's plenty IMO. ] (]) 20:38, 28 May 2016 (UTC) |
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= Note on a RfC about "military careers" = |
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There is currently a discussion and a RfC on ]'s article about his so-called "military career," noted by an infobox module. Since his military service, similar to that of ], was for a few years and ''before'' their actual careers began, inserting a massive module in the standard infobox, as in this article, seems both misleading and erroneous. For Newman, his "military career" module takes up about 25% of the infobox, while his notability is for being an actor. And like the others, he never had a "military career."--] (]) 02:07, 6 September 2016 (UTC) |
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== Voice acting == |
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Dear IP, |
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please explain first why you wish to remove the "voice acting" designations, but only if the last edit log and it's content did not convince you. Thank You(] (]) 19:19, 6 February 2018 (UTC)) |
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It's basically the same thing as acting, as I explained it in the edit summary of the edit. Only if they are notable to have more than 100 voice credits, like ] and ] for example. Because not ever celebrity on here is credited as a voice actor, just a few. ] (]) 16:44, 11 February 2019 (UTC) |
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:: I am torn between both points you guys are making. I agree that Newman shouldn't have a voice acting section, however the section shouldn't be deleted until someone moves these credits in the respective year of release.] (]) 19:05, 25 April 2019 (UTC) |
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== Major films intro? == |
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His biggest performance in my mind is Cat on a Hot Tin Roof (1958), should be mentioned in the intro. It is a spell to see it. (But it is not in the style like his later cast.) |
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The main text writes: |
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In 1958, he starred in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof (1958), opposite Elizabeth Taylor. The film was a box-office smash, and Newman garnered his first Academy Award nomination. |
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--] (]) 12:13, 7 June 2020 (UTC) |
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== Redundances == |
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1. "That performance led to his breakthrough role as Rocky Graziano in the film Somebody Up There Likes Me in 1956. The Dean connection had additional resonance. Newman was cast as Billy the Kid in The Left Handed Gun which was a role originally earmarked for Dean. Additionally, Dean was originally cast to play the role of Rocky Graziano in Somebody Up There Likes Me; however, with his death, Paul Newman inherited the role." |
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''Somebody up there likes me'' and Rocky Graziano are repetitive. |
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:Not sure what you are referring to, but if indeed we talk about a lawsuit whose resolution is not available, we may want to omit. Commercial disputes are common and may not be notable. ] (]) 19:47, 31 January 2024 (UTC) |
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2. "For Newman's support of Eugene McCarthy in 1968 (and effective use of television commercials in California) and his opposition to the Vietnam War, Newman was placed nineteenth on Richard Nixon's enemies list, which Newman claimed was his greatest accomplishment." |
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:The suit was actually filed in 1985 and was dismissed! I've taken it out. Thank you Mr. or Ms. IP. ] (]) 20:28, 31 January 2024 (UTC) |
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The double "and" is not good. |
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his father was not the son of immigrants from hungary, because there were no hungary, it was "Kaisertum Österreich". ] (]) 12:04, 10 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Newman German ancestor == |
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== Newman = original: Neumann == |
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in german language there exists no Newman, but Neumann. Newman ist the english translated version of the german family name Neumann. So imo his grandfather changed his name in this english version by immigrating in USA. |
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He hat definitely german ancestors, because Newman is english for german Neumann, a frequently german family name. It is no polish family name. ] (]) 06:50, 12 October 2022 (UTC) |
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wiki: As of 2023 it is the 18th most common surname in Germany. ] (]) 12:07, 10 March 2024 (UTC) |
in german language there exists no Newman, but Neumann. Newman ist the english translated version of the german family name Neumann. So imo his grandfather changed his name in this english version by immigrating in USA.
wiki: As of 2023 it is the 18th most common surname in Germany. 2003:CA:A707:E100:54E6:91BC:9DA6:22D0 (talk) 12:07, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
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