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== POV much? == |
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This article is in serious need of attention from an expert on the subject matter, especially considering what recently happened involving the group. The second paragraph cites only one source (the link of which is broken) despite its claims. Perhaps a current events tag is also in order? ] (]) 22:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:Tag added. I don't understand the POV concern - which statement are you concerned about? All news sources I've read seem to be pretty consistent, from CNN to Al Jazeera and This Day. ](]) 23:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC) |
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The article does not talk about the incidents that led to clashes in June 2009 in Maiduguri, Borno State, no information was provided about Borno the headquarter of the group, nor about the different names that is given to them in different states. For instance in Borno, they are mainly referred to as Yusufiyya, in Yobe they are called with different name while in other Hausa States they are referred to as Boko haram. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:20, 8 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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: You're free to add in the information, with citations. ] (]) 05:52, 9 April 2010 (UTC) |
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== Accuracy? == |
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The BBC is reporting that Yusuf is still alive: 17:59, 2 August 2009 (UTC) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) </span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:That report states that he was alive when arrested; has been killed since. ] (]) 02:29, 3 August 2009 (UTC) |
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Also, Boko Haram is also spreading the ideals that it is blasphemy against Allah and Mohommad the Prophet that the Earth revolves around the Sun. The implication in the article that they are babbling idiots is unproven; we need better qualification of their goals, even if the name Boko Haram names Western Civilization and its teachings as sinful and against Allah, in their own language: no joke, even the worst pagan can be educated, clarify it. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:29, 17 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Merge with 2009 Nigerian sectarian violence == |
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I suggest that for now let's not merge. Apparently the organization has been around for a bunch of years, and other events related to them may come to light soon. It wouldn't make sense to place them in the 2009 Nigerian violence article. ] (]) 23:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC) |
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: I misread. If the goal is to merge bring the 2009 article ''into'' the Boko Haram one, then I'm fine with it. (Or rather, I'm fine if it stays as it is as well - no strong feelings about it). ] (]) 14:06, 16 August 2009 (UTC) |
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::seems like ''no consensus'' so i remvoe the tag |
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::{{resolved}}(] (]) 15:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC)). |
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== Boko and Haram == |
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The first sentence seems to say that Boko Harem itself is a sin or sacreligious, which does not make sense? ] (]) 01:58, 11 September 2010 (UTC) |
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:hope its addressed now?(] (]) 16:06, 1 January 2011 (UTC)). |
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== Translation of name == |
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I removed the sentence 'The literal translation is "Association of Sunnis for the Propagation of Islam and for Holy War" because it's incorrect. Most importantly, the word 'jihad' does NOT mean 'Holy War', it means to struggle. In the Islamic context it's taken as the struggle against evil or sinful acts. The phrase for 'Holy War' in Arabic is 'al-harb al-muqadassah' which never appears in the Koran or ever used by Muslims or even the extremists. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Apparently, it would be "BOOK SIN". Dunno why that hasn't made it's way into the world, ] clearly indicates it. ] (]) 15:07, 28 December 2011 (UTC) |
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::Or, upon reconsideration, in American, "Book learnin' sinful". The given translations seem off, the wrong translation register. Is there some info on what the Hausa intend in this usage? Are they subjecting the group to ridicule, making a neutral observation or what? ] (]) 19:11, 30 December 2011 (UTC) |
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== Unexplained reverts by Anon IP(s) == |
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An anonymous user at IPs ], ] and most recently ] insists on removing a "Citation Needed" request with no explanation whatsoever. I am unsure as to what is the best way to address this issue if there is no dialogue.--] (]) 14:06, 27 September 2011 (UTC) |
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:Add this IP to the list: ]--] (]) 03:34, 28 September 2011 (UTC) |
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::Give him an approproiae warning and if he continies report the IP range for a block] (]) 08:30, 29 September 2011 (UTC) |
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:::I should have reported that the page was semi-protected for a little while as a result.--] (]) 12:48, 29 September 2011 (UTC) |
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== "their interpretation of Sharia" == |
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which is...? ] <sup>]</sup> 04:01, 27 December 2011 (UTC) |
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: It's just like the Continental Europe doesn't interpret capitalism in the same way as the United States or the United Kingdom. Or Catholic christians don't interpret the Bible in the same manner as Orthodox christians do. Malaysia and Indonesia are countries with large muslim populations but their interpretion of Sharia is not the same as in Saudi Arabia. Boko Haram has its own interpretation and this I want to emphasise. |
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: ] (]) 07:25, 28 December 2011 (UTC) |
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::That wasn't the question. What exactly is their interpretation? ] <sup>]</sup> 10:37, 28 December 2011 (UTC) |
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::: I apologise for replying so late and not reading your question properly. And unfortunatey, my friend, I am not aware at this moment of what their exact interpretation of Sharia is. But one thing is for certain: their interpretation will have little in common with how the Indonesians interpret Sharia so the ''emphasis'' on 'their interpretation'. |
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::: What I can do is, I can try to find out more about their ideology and when I'm able to do that, I will certainly insert a link into the article. Your assisstance is welcome! :) |
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::: ] (]) 06:33, 30 December 2011 (UTC) |
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== Official name == |
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Per the source cited (among others), the official name is in Arabic not in English. This naming convention also follows those established at articles of other militant groups like ], ] and ].--] (]) 14:03, 4 January 2012 (UTC) |
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: You don't use '''Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik''' (official name of the USSR in Russian) you use its English translation. Similarly you don't say '''Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguó''' (official name of PRC in Chinese) instead of People's Republic of China. Why should then insist on keeping the Arabic name? Boko Haram is just an organisation after all, isn't it? |
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: Futhur the names that you have mentioned are small. We're not translating ''Boko Haram'' here, we are translating '''Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati Wal-Jihad''' which is very inconvenient to remember and even difficult to pronounce correctly. |
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== "...the fact that some of their own tactics and activities are anti-Islamic and anti-Sharia." == |
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This "fact" is, according to the source cited, the opinion of the Governor of Niger State. Attribution of this belief needs to be noted.--] (]) 14:08, 4 January 2012 (UTC) |
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== I've read this sentence like 10 times and I still don't know what it's trying to say == |
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: Sharia is a code of conduct which doesn't condone killing innocent people. And Islam has a religion forbids suicide. Boko Haram not only sends its militants on suicide mission but it also kills innocent people. Therefore, it's both anti-Islamic and anti-Sharia. |
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:Therefore the belief that what Boko Haram are doing is anti-Islamic and anti-Sharia is not confined to that governer. Over 50 Imams had already written to the Government of Nigeria complaining about the Boko Haram's version of Islam. And here is a link to that: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/02/nigeria-boko-haram-islamist-sect |
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: You don't say "scientists believe Earth is a sphere." You simply reiterate the fact. Why Boko Haram should be an exception? |
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: ] (]) 16:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC) |
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Is this sentence at the end of the fifth paragraph grammatically incorrect or am I just a fool - "However, attacks by Boko Haram have a separate investigation conducted by The Wall Street Journal backed recent claims that Shekau was dead.". If the sentence is there to bring up additional evidence of Shekau's death, I don't know why it starts with 'however, attacks by Boko Haram', which just sounds like the WSJ report has questionable authority and Shekau is in fact alive. I only made this topic because as the last sentence of the introduction, it gave me more questions about the status of Boko Haram than the previous four paragraphs answered. ] (]) 04:00, 2 August 2022 (UTC) |
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== Unknown leader == |
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I just fail to understand why insist on seperately mentioning that we don't know who the current leader of the group is when it's already mentioned in the first sentence of the third paragraph that not much is known about the '''structure''' and '''chain of command''' of the group. If '''chain of command''' doesn't include the group's leader, what else does? |
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I am new to the community, but the use of graphic images embedded in this article seems inappropriate. I don't think they add any value, and they make the article less accessible to people with trauma/phobias. Consider removing them or replacing them with less graphic images. This will not diminish the gravity of the topic, I believe. ] (]) 17:31, 5 April 2023 (UTC) |
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Is this sentence at the end of the fifth paragraph grammatically incorrect or am I just a fool - "However, attacks by Boko Haram have a separate investigation conducted by The Wall Street Journal backed recent claims that Shekau was dead.". If the sentence is there to bring up additional evidence of Shekau's death, I don't know why it starts with 'however, attacks by Boko Haram', which just sounds like the WSJ report has questionable authority and Shekau is in fact alive. I only made this topic because as the last sentence of the introduction, it gave me more questions about the status of Boko Haram than the previous four paragraphs answered. Whatsgoingonwiththelackof (talk) 04:00, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
I am new to the community, but the use of graphic images embedded in this article seems inappropriate. I don't think they add any value, and they make the article less accessible to people with trauma/phobias. Consider removing them or replacing them with less graphic images. This will not diminish the gravity of the topic, I believe. Bovianchovy (talk) 17:31, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
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