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== ] ] == == Swiss-Swedish ==
* ] → ''']''' … ''Rationale'': The company has long since stopped using Asea Brown Boveri, and now uses only ABB Ltd. ABB is also registered by the company as a trademark throughout the world.
… ''Please discuss/vote at'' ]. ] 20:33, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
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Is it correct to refer to this company as Swiss-Swedish? It is a multinational registered as an Ltd. and is owned by various investors. ] (]) 10:52, 23 November 2022 (UTC)


:Very good point. The clearly refer to it being incorporated and headquartered in Zurich only. In that way it is similar to former Dutch-British multinationals such as ] or ], meaning it should be referred to as "Swiss multinational", despite major Swedish ownership. ~~ ] (]) 15:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
*In 2004, the manager of one of its Italian subsidiaries was fired for making "improper payments".


== Rolling stock ==
*The new case, ABB said, revolves around payments made to intermediaries in Latin America and the Middle East "in connection with the company's business, which is control software for utilities"


In the intro it say: ”Between 1989 and 1999, the company was also active in the rolling stock manufacturing sector.”


I don’t think that is true. Both ASEA and Brown, Boveri & Cie produced rolling stock (EMU:s and locomotives) right up until the merger in 1988. When it comes to ASEA, I know that products developed by ASEA (like X10-family of EMU:s and X2000) were built as ABB.
ABB-Alstom Power and sold its interest in conventional power generation systems and rail transportation to Alstom Power. ABB's nuclear business was sold to BNFL and merged into Westinghouse Electric Company.


ABB did not sell rail transportation business to Alstom. It divested the business (ADtranz) and then later sold its stake.ADtranz later was purchased by Bombardier <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:24, 15 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> It seems implausible that rolling stock part weren’t merged with the rest of the companies right from the start, giving a gap of a year. ] (]) 15:10, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


:Yes, ASEA was producing locomotives in sweden since the early 1900's
==Requested move==
:https://en.wikipedia.org/Category:ASEA_locomotives ] (]) 16:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
I added the template since the nominator did not. ] 07:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:The section "Rolling stock manufacturing" seems to only to refer to activities in the UK.

:ABB was producing rolling stock before 1989 at several locations mainly in Sweden and Switzerland since both ASEA and BBC had produced rolling stock since the early 1900's. ] (]) 16:11, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
'''Oppose'''. ABB was the code for both an airline and a railroad. Given all of the other uses, I'm not convinced that leaving things the way they are would be a problem. The company also seems to go by the name ABB Group. ] 07:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
:I've removed this page's entry from ] due to a lack of consensus on the move. If this changes, feel free to add another request. --] (],]) 10:04, 4 January 2006 (UTC)


Quote:
A strong solutions focus leverages thousands of successful applications for manufacturers worldwide.
I wonder who wrote this article? ] 15:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)


Anyone know if there is a history of Brown-Boveri's transmitter business from the 1930's onward? ] 08:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

== Bad name ==

So we had two options: ABB which is "more correct", or "Asea Brown Boveri" which was "less redundant". So which one was used for the title? BOTH!

Let's call this "ABB Group", no? That's what it's linked to from ABB disambig. Note that theoretical problem with "ABB" being an airline call sign has never resulted in problems with similar namespace collisions in the past, so to be honest I see no reason not to call this "ABB" and leave it at that.

] (]) 21:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== International Combustion Ltd ==

I'd like to add a section on International Combustion Ltd (ICL) but I don't yet have enough information. ICL was based at ], ] and was bought by Rolls-Royce in the 1990s . Rolls-Royce sold it to ABB in 1997 . Can anyone expand on this? ] (]) 09:06, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
:What is/was the connection between ICL and International Combustion (Holdings) Limited, see ]? ] (]) 09:17, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
::I have added a brief note at ]. ] (]) 09:36, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

== asea motor relay starters ==

i have a ASEA 3ph 4pole motor with the starter relay burnt out.
12 screw connections
ZD1469045 on black block
, can you help.
vic.young.young@btinternet.com
many thanks v young <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:16, 19 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== ABB did not sell its transportaion business to ALSTOM ==

ABB-Alstom Power and sold its interest in conventional power generation systems and rail transportation to Alstom Power. ABB's nuclear business was sold to BNFL and merged into Westinghouse Electric Company.

ABB did not sell rail transportation business to Alstom. It divested the business (ADtranz) and then later sold its stake.ADtranz later was purchased by Bombardier <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:25, 15 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== re ] (self declared ABB-employee) ==

] has made lot of edits recently to this ABB-page. On her user-page she states clearly that she works for ABB. (Also, she is very good in editing, including more difficult tasks such as referencing, so she might be getting experience under an other name). I see no problem so far, not even a ]. But I think the article needs a review by others, to wikifresh it. I did one section, separating some PR from facts. -] (]) 20:48, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
:ABB of course welcomes a wikifresh review by the Misplaced Pages community, and I fully agree with removing the PR language. Most of the content that was removed by ] on 27 April was added by User:Sanketsingh ] in October 2006. However, changing the divisional heading ‘Discrete Automation & Motion’ (DM) under Organizational Structure back to ‘Robotics’ is not correct as this is a business unit within the new DM division since January 2010. Please refer to the press ], which is a reference in the ABB Group profile. An answer to ]'s comment in brackets is available on my ] page.
User page -] (]) 15:44, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
::Well, clearly I was not targeting Hogantanya's edits, since I edited someone elses :-). Next, Robotics is a candidate for improvement, but the earlier name "Discrete Automation and Motion" is the internal ABB division name, and not very descriptive imo. -] (]) 10:53, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes, the DM section needs improving. Sorry, can't do anything about the new division name :-) -] (]) Hogantanya 08:46, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== ABB's Swedish investors: about one-third, not half ==

It says: "Fully half of ABB's shareholders reside in Sweden." under Primary investors. I can't find any evidence of this - does anyone know where it's come from? The text was added by ] on 5 May 2009.<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=ABB_Group&limit=250&action=history</ref> with nothing to back it up. ABB's investor relations department tells me: "about one-third of ABB's shareholders are Swedish". It is difficult to prove exactly as many (almost half) shareholders invest through nominees. It is true that ABB's biggest shareholder, Investor AB, is Swedish with 7.1% of shares and votes. To the best of ABB's knowledge, no other shareholder apart from BlackRock Inc. has 3% or more of all voting rights.<ref>http://www.abb.com/cawp/abbzh259/88410baffb6a58bbc1256fba0035c89f.aspx</ref> -] (]) Hogantanya 08:46, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:Removed for the moment, can't find a supporting source. Can be restored if a reliable source found. ] (]) 17:44, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

::Maybe he means that 50% of the company's shares are traded on the Stockholm exchange?

::http://www.nasdaqomxnordic.com/aktier/shareinformation?Instrument=SSE3966

::http://www.nyse.com/about/listed/abb.html

::http://www.six-swiss-exchange.com/shares/security_info_en.html?id=CH0012221716CHF1

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Swiss-Swedish

Is it correct to refer to this company as Swiss-Swedish? It is a multinational registered as an Ltd. and is owned by various investors. PhotographyEdits (talk) 10:52, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Very good point. The ABB Articles of Incorporation 2024 clearly refer to it being incorporated and headquartered in Zurich only. In that way it is similar to former Dutch-British multinationals such as Unilever or Shell plc, meaning it should be referred to as "Swiss multinational", despite major Swedish ownership. ~~ Stadscykel (talk) 15:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Rolling stock

In the intro it say: ”Between 1989 and 1999, the company was also active in the rolling stock manufacturing sector.”

I don’t think that is true. Both ASEA and Brown, Boveri & Cie produced rolling stock (EMU:s and locomotives) right up until the merger in 1988. When it comes to ASEA, I know that products developed by ASEA (like X10-family of EMU:s and X2000) were built as ABB.

It seems implausible that rolling stock part weren’t merged with the rest of the companies right from the start, giving a gap of a year. 155.4.85.190 (talk) 15:10, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, ASEA was producing locomotives in sweden since the early 1900's
https://en.wikipedia.org/Category:ASEA_locomotives 89.233.240.133 (talk) 16:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
The section "Rolling stock manufacturing" seems to only to refer to activities in the UK.
ABB was producing rolling stock before 1989 at several locations mainly in Sweden and Switzerland since both ASEA and BBC had produced rolling stock since the early 1900's. 89.233.240.133 (talk) 16:11, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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