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== Possible pointer ==


https://interviews.slashdot.org/story/15/08/26/1644228/interviews-l5-society-cofounder-keith-henson-answers-your-questions
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:There is a ] issue in letting this discussion remain even on the Talk page until there ''are'' ] sources. ] (]) 04:42, 22 June 2008 (UTC) It's only a little out of date. If someone wants to work it in, please do. ] (]) 03:03, 18 November 2018 (UTC)


== L5 Society on Lead-In ==
:: Damn right. That's why I blanked it. Anyone who restores this material risks an immediate block without warning. ] <sup>]</sup> 04:56, 22 June 2008 (UTC)


'''He also founded the ],''' was added to the lead-in. This is not entirely correct, he was one of the founders of a group of humanists and human rights activists from California who founded the L5 Society. ] (]) 18:49, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
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== fixed broken link ==
Cirt has been removing information from this article based on lack of source. The information is generally true, that is, I knew the Hensons well, I worked with them for several years. Cirt has properly tagged this information with cn tags, which encourage the discovery of source for information; immediate removal should be reserved for possibly damaging information, not harmless information generally known to the true. I'm not personally sure of either the marriage date or divorce date for the Henson/Meinel marriage, they were married when I knew them; Henson and his wife were running the L-5 society and I actually took Carolyn's place doing design work for Analog Precision. Everything should be sourced, but Misplaced Pages is a process, not a result, and each edit should improve the encyclopedia. Taking out harmless information that fleshes out an article and was almost certainly placed there by an editor from personal knowledge does not improve the project, it weakens it. Putting a cn or fact tag on it is a service. Deleting it is damage.


Also there is a missing item in works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEkZkINrJaA ] (]) 05:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
(It's likely that Henson himself added the information, but I haven't checked the history. None of it is inconsistent with my knowledge, though I'd personally like to verify that Enrico Fermi reactor story, and may take it out myself, it's probably a self-justification, though possibly sourced elsewhere, not that he wasn't justified for standing up for quality in products. I was fired for a similar kind of thing once. I like to do some research before hacking up an article that someone else wrote in good faith.) --] (]) 11:20, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:Please see ]. Also, note please that ]. ''']''' (]) 12:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

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While the text here bears strong resemblance to that at the external site, it seems to have been authored here. To begin with, the earliest archives of that site date to June 2008. This is not conclusive, as the material could have been moved at that time, but it combines with evidence of natural evolution. Let's evaluate the paragraph published at the external site: "Keith was known at the University of Arizona as one of the founders of the Druid Student Center, where a campus humor newspaper, The Frumious Bandersnatch was published in the late 1960s. He later cited an incident that occurred in his student days as a good example of memetic replication. When asked to fill in a form that required him to disclose his religious affiliations he wrote “Druid”. His prank was soon noticed by other students and before long almost 20% of the student body had registered themselves as Reform Druids, Orthodox Druids, Members of the Church of the nth Druid, Zen Druids, Latter-Day Druids, and so on. The university was forced to remove the religious affiliation question, breaking the chain of replication and variation." We see this beginning to enter the article piecemeal as early as September 2005, when this content is added: "Henson was known at the U of A as one of the founders of the Druid Student Center, from which The Frumious Bandersnatch a campus humor newspaper was published in the late 60s. (The Druids were also known for making UFOs, .)" Two months later, it was edited to more closely resemble what we have now, by another user, but none of the rest of that paragraph was then in existence. It was added years later in February 2007 by a third (now retired) contributor. Add to that a final piece of evidence - that the underlined text at that website links to Misplaced Pages, and we have good reason to believe that they are infringing on Misplaced Pages's contributors rather than the other way around. --Moonriddengirl 12:30, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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https://interviews.slashdot.org/story/15/08/26/1644228/interviews-l5-society-cofounder-keith-henson-answers-your-questions

It's only a little out of date. If someone wants to work it in, please do. Keith Henson (talk) 03:03, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

L5 Society on Lead-In

He also founded the L5 Society, was added to the lead-in. This is not entirely correct, he was one of the founders of a group of humanists and human rights activists from California who founded the L5 Society. SoftwareThing (talk) 18:49, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

fixed broken link

Also there is a missing item in works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEkZkINrJaA Keith Henson (talk) 05:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

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