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== Possible pointer ==


https://interviews.slashdot.org/story/15/08/26/1644228/interviews-l5-society-cofounder-keith-henson-answers-your-questions
== BLPN ==


See ]. ''']''' (]) 21:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC) It's only a little out of date. If someone wants to work it in, please do. ] (]) 03:03, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:I am going to disengage from this article for a while, so hopefully the notice at ] will help to resolve the unsourced material in this article. ''']''' (]) 22:09, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


== L5 Society on Lead-In ==
==Request for edits by subject of article==
Someone went to the trouble of looking up some of the cite requests.


'''He also founded the ],''' was added to the lead-in. This is not entirely correct, he was one of the founders of a group of humanists and human rights activists from California who founded the L5 Society. ] (]) 18:49, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
] (]) 20:05, 11 July 2009 (UTC)]


== fixed broken link ==
On Heinlein being an influence.
<http://www.culthelp.info/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=2099>http://www.culthelp.info/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=2099
#::* Culthelp.info is not a RS. ] (]) 13:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
R.U.Serius is a well known journalist,
<http://en.wikipedia.org/R._U._Sirius>http://en.wikipedia.org/R._U._Sirius


Also there is a missing item in works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEkZkINrJaA ] (]) 05:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
This is published interview. You can certainly draw the conclusion
that Robert Heinlein had a large influence on Henson's life from that
interview.

On University of Arizona and EE degree,

<http://www.nss.org/resources/library/spacemovement/chapter05.htm#desert>http://www.nss.org/resources/library/spacemovement/chapter05.htm#desert

"The blunt, energetic Keith, who has a degree in electrical engineering,"
#::* OK ] (]) 13:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
<http://www.amazon.com/Great-Mambo-Chicken-Transhuman-Condition/dp/0201567512#reader>http://www.amazon.com/Great-Mambo-Chicken-Transhuman-Condition/dp/0201567512#reader
Page 188 associates Henson with the University of Arizona.

"Henson also programmed geophysical type cases and wrote data
reduction programs for the company"
#::Amazon not ok, cite the book inc page no directly. ] (]) 13:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
<http://books.google.com/books?id=QGkgGwAACAAJ&dq=H.+Keith+henson+geophysics&client=firefox-a>http://books.google.com/books?id=QGkgGwAACAAJ&dq=H.+Keith+henson+geophysics&client=firefox-a
#::* What is this supporting?

"Theoretical Induced Polarization and Resistivity Response for the
Dual Frequency System Collinear Dipole-dipole Array: Volume 1 & 2. By
Chris S Ludwig, H Keith Henson, Heinrichs Geoexploration Company
Published by Heinrichs Geoexploration Co., 1967"

There isn't a published source I can find for how many daughters
Henson and Meinel had.

"Henson became familiar with the System dynamics"

<http://www.nss.org/settlement/L5news/L5news/L5news7510.pdf>http://www.nss.org/settlement/L5news/L5news/L5news7510.pdf
Someone at L5 News, probably Henson, was up on system dynamics.
#::* probably is not good enough, form reading this source it appears that Carolyn Henson was the major driver. ] (]) 13:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
<http://integral-options.blogspot.com/2007/02/keith-henson-talks-about-memetics.html>http://integral-options.blogspot.com/2007/02/keith-henson-talks-about-memetics.html
#::* This is a blog. ] (]) 13:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
RU: How did your participation and leadership in the L5 society come about?

KH: It was indirectly related to “Limits to Growth” memes that were so
active in the early 70s.

"Limits" was based on system dynamics.

"Patents were issued on both subjects ­ vapor phase fabrication and
space radiators."

From Drexler's web site:

Henson, H.K., and K.E. Drexler. (1988) “Heterodensity heat transfer
apparatus and method” U.S. Patent Office: #4,759,404

Henson, H.K., and K.E. Drexler. (1984) “Method for processing and
fabricating metals in space” U.S. Patent Office: #4,480,677

"article by the name of Star Laws, jointly written by Henson and Arel
Lucas and published in Reason Magazine."

<http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.space.policy/msg/3654d08deee4f4f0?hl=en&>http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.space.policy/msg/3654d08deee4f4f0?hl=en&

"It was originally published in *Reason* Magazine, Aug., 1982."

Link is right on the page.

*******

There are other things that might be added such as the oil drum article, but I don't want to do it. ] (]) 16:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

:Above, ] intersperses comments. We should discuss each one, because generic objections that might not actually apply in a specific case are being used. For example, the page at culthelp.info is actually a convenience link, not itself the source. Question is, is the original source available? (That's not necessarily the only question, but do consider what is being sourced, it's pretty simple. Henson, by pointing to this source, is validating the interview, and, if it were, for example, self-published, we could still use it if we find it useful as a fact about Henson. I find it interesting!) --] (]) 20:05, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

{{ESp|n}} The editsemiprotected template is intended to allow non-autoconfirmed users to continue to be able to edit articles which are semiprotected. You are autoconfirmed, so you should be able to do this yourself. ] (]) 19:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

:If you think it is ok for me to add these cite to the page about me, ok, can do, though I got a lot of flack for doing the same thing (adding requested cites) in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Scientology/Workshop&oldid=292921824 ] (]) 02:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

::Hang on, Keith, I think that conversation had its wires crossed. You need an uninvolved editor to make these edits for you. Please post a note at ] or ] requesting that your proposed changes be reviewed and potentially acted upon by an uninvolved editor. Regards, ] <sup>]</sup> 02:49, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

:::Done ] (]) 03:16, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I saw this and I've started adding sources. Jehochman, Keith ''could'' make the edits, provided that they are not controversial. It's more efficient if he makes them when he finds the sources; he can disclose his COI and ask for review. If he thinks something might be controversial, he can self-revert. (If he is formally banned, this is controversial, but it should be no problem if he isn't.) (edit summary: "adding sources, will self-revert due to COI.") or {edit summary: "adding sources, COI, please revert if discussion needed.") Efficiency. Don't leave home without it. --] (]) 14:51, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

: Thank you. As a practical matter, because this article is covered by Scientology sanctions and is potentially watched by various accounts trigger happy to file complaints, I think it is a good idea for the subject to use the article talk page. He could edit the article, but it is better for him to use the talk page. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:24, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

: My bad; I didn't realize that Keith couldn't make those changes. Is there some way to know? ] (]) 15:42, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

:: You wouldn't have known unless this was made clear. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:24, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

:::Well, there was a bit of a clue in the user name! However, Celestra was led astray by the template Henson used to ask for help. --] (]) 20:05, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== System dynamics ==

Some evidence here: http://www.nss.org/settlement/L5news/L5news/L5news7510.pdf ] (]) 01:51, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

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Possible pointer

https://interviews.slashdot.org/story/15/08/26/1644228/interviews-l5-society-cofounder-keith-henson-answers-your-questions

It's only a little out of date. If someone wants to work it in, please do. Keith Henson (talk) 03:03, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

L5 Society on Lead-In

He also founded the L5 Society, was added to the lead-in. This is not entirely correct, he was one of the founders of a group of humanists and human rights activists from California who founded the L5 Society. SoftwareThing (talk) 18:49, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

fixed broken link

Also there is a missing item in works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEkZkINrJaA Keith Henson (talk) 05:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

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