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{{backwardscopy|url=http://lifeboat.com/ex/bios.h.keith.henson|author=Lifeboard Foundation|year=2008|title=H. Keith Henson|comments=While the text here bears strong resemblance to that at the external site, it seems to have been authored here. To begin with, the earliest archives of that site date to . This is not conclusive, as the material could have been moved at that time, but it combines with evidence of natural evolution. Let's evaluate the paragraph published at the external site: "Keith was known at the University of Arizona as one of the founders of the Druid Student Center, where a campus humor newspaper, The Frumious Bandersnatch was published in the late 1960s. He later cited an incident that occurred in his student days as a good example of memetic replication. When asked to fill in a form that required him to disclose his religious affiliations he wrote “Druid”. His prank was soon noticed by other students and before long almost 20% of the student body had registered themselves as Reform Druids, Orthodox Druids, Members of the Church of the nth Druid, Zen Druids, Latter-Day Druids, and so on. The university was forced to remove the religious affiliation question, breaking the chain of replication and variation." We see this beginning to enter the article piecemeal as early , when this content is added: "Henson was known at the U of A as one of the founders of the Druid Student Center, from which The Frumious Bandersnatch a campus humor newspaper was published in the late 60s. (The Druids were also known for making UFOs, .)" , it was edited to more closely resemble what we have now, by another user, but none of the rest of that paragraph was then in existence. It was added years later by a third (now retired) contributor. Add to that a final piece of evidence - that the underlined text at that website links to Misplaced Pages, and we have good reason to believe that they are infringing on Misplaced Pages's contributors rather than the other way around. --] <sup>]</sup> 12:30, 2 December 2011 (UTC)}} |
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== Possible pointer == |
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== Request for edits by subject of article == |
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https://interviews.slashdot.org/story/15/08/26/1644228/interviews-l5-society-cofounder-keith-henson-answers-your-questions |
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Someone went to the trouble of looking up some of the cite requests. |
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] (]) 20:05, 11 July 2009 (UTC)] |
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It's only a little out of date. If someone wants to work it in, please do. ] (]) 03:03, 18 November 2018 (UTC) |
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== L5 Society on Lead-In == |
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On Heinlein being an influence. |
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<http://www.culthelp.info/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=2099>http://www.culthelp.info/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=2099 |
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#::* Culthelp.info is not a RS. ] (]) 13:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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'''He also founded the ],''' was added to the lead-in. This is not entirely correct, he was one of the founders of a group of humanists and human rights activists from California who founded the L5 Society. ] (]) 18:49, 4 January 2020 (UTC) |
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:::Good point. But if you look a little further for the source, http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/02/05/a-reprint-of-an-interview-with-keith-henson-by-ru-sirius-2/ As I pointed out, R.U.Serius is a well known journalist, |
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<http://en.wikipedia.org/R._U._Sirius>http://en.wikipedia.org/R._U._Sirius |
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== fixed broken link == |
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This is published interview. You can certainly draw the conclusion |
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that Robert Heinlein had a large influence on Henson's life from that |
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interview. |
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Also there is a missing item in works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEkZkINrJaA ] (]) 05:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC) |
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On University of Arizona and EE degree, |
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<http://www.nss.org/resources/library/spacemovement/chapter05.htm#desert>http://www.nss.org/resources/library/spacemovement/chapter05.htm#desert |
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"The blunt, energetic Keith, who has a degree in electrical engineering," |
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#::* OK ] (]) 13:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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<http://www.amazon.com/Great-Mambo-Chicken-Transhuman-Condition/dp/0201567512#reader>http://www.amazon.com/Great-Mambo-Chicken-Transhuman-Condition/dp/0201567512#reader |
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Page 188 associates Henson with the University of Arizona. |
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"Henson also programmed geophysical type cases and wrote data |
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reduction programs for the company" |
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#::Amazon not ok, cite the book inc page no directly. ] (]) 13:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Ok |
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<http://books.google.com/books?id=QGkgGwAACAAJ&dq=H.+Keith+henson+geophysics&client=firefox-a>http://books.google.com/books?id=QGkgGwAACAAJ&dq=H.+Keith+henson+geophysics&client=firefox-a |
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#::* What is this supporting? |
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:::It is the book that resulted from a year or two of working on geophysical type cases. |
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"Theoretical Induced Polarization and Resistivity Response for the |
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Dual Frequency System Collinear Dipole-dipole Array: Volume 1 & 2. By |
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Chris S Ludwig, H Keith Henson, Heinrichs Geoexploration Company |
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Published by Heinrichs Geoexploration Co., 1967" |
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There isn't a published source I can find for how many daughters |
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Henson and Meinel had. |
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"Henson became familiar with the System dynamics" |
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<http://www.nss.org/settlement/L5news/L5news/L5news7510.pdf>http://www.nss.org/settlement/L5news/L5news/L5news7510.pdf |
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Someone at L5 News, probably Henson, was up on system dynamics. |
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#::* probably is not good enough, form reading this source it appears that Carolyn Henson was the major driver. ] (]) 13:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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<http://integral-options.blogspot.com/2007/02/keith-henson-talks-about-memetics.html>http://integral-options.blogspot.com/2007/02/keith-henson-talks-about-memetics.html |
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#::* This is a blog. ] (]) 13:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Some blogs are considered good enough for Misplaced Pages. Look at the links to "The Oil Drum" |
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RU: How did your participation and leadership in the L5 society come about? |
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KH: It was indirectly related to “Limits to Growth” memes that were so |
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active in the early 70s. |
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"Limits" was based on system dynamics. |
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"Patents were issued on both subjects vapor phase fabrication and |
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space radiators." |
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From Drexler's web site: |
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Henson, H.K., and K.E. Drexler. (1988) “Heterodensity heat transfer |
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apparatus and method” U.S. Patent Office: #4,759,404 |
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Henson, H.K., and K.E. Drexler. (1984) “Method for processing and |
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fabricating metals in space” U.S. Patent Office: #4,480,677 |
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"article by the name of Star Laws, jointly written by Henson and Arel |
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Lucas and published in Reason Magazine." |
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<http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.space.policy/msg/3654d08deee4f4f0?hl=en&>http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.space.policy/msg/3654d08deee4f4f0?hl=en& |
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"It was originally published in *Reason* Magazine, Aug., 1982." |
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Link is right on the page. |
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******* |
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There are other things that might be added such as the oil drum article, but I don't want to do it. ] (]) 16:31, 10 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:Above, ] intersperses comments. We should discuss each one, because generic objections that might not actually apply in a specific case are being used. For example, the page at culthelp.info is actually a convenience link, not itself the source. Question is, is the original source available? (That's not necessarily the only question, but do consider what is being sourced, it's pretty simple. Henson, by pointing to this source, is validating the interview, and, if it were, for example, self-published, we could still use it if we find it useful as a fact about Henson. I find it interesting!) --] (]) 20:05, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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{{ESp|n}} The editsemiprotected template is intended to allow non-autoconfirmed users to continue to be able to edit articles which are semiprotected. You are autoconfirmed, so you should be able to do this yourself. ] (]) 19:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:If you think it is ok for me to add these cite to the page about me, ok, can do, though I got a lot of flack for doing the same thing (adding requested cites) in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Scientology/Workshop&oldid=292921824 ] (]) 02:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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::Hang on, Keith, I think that conversation had its wires crossed. You need an uninvolved editor to make these edits for you. Please post a note at ] or ] requesting that your proposed changes be reviewed and potentially acted upon by an uninvolved editor. Regards, ] <sup>]</sup> 02:49, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Done ] (]) 03:16, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:::: It is now Aug 2, more than three weeks later. Any suggestions? ] (]) 02:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC) |
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::::: I made a change to the Non Controversial edits policy after two weeks of the proposed change being on the talk page. I would still rather someone else put the cites in rather than me, but if nobody steps up in a few days or a week, I will do it. ] (]) 15:49, 20 August 2009 (UTC) |
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I saw this and I've started adding sources. Jehochman, Keith ''could'' make the edits, provided that they are not controversial. It's more efficient if he makes them when he finds the sources; he can disclose his COI and ask for review. If he thinks something might be controversial, he can self-revert. (If he is formally banned, this is controversial, but it should be no problem if he isn't.) (edit summary: "adding sources, will self-revert due to COI.") or {edit summary: "adding sources, COI, please revert if discussion needed.") Efficiency. Don't leave home without it. --] (]) 14:51, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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: Thank you. As a practical matter, because this article is covered by Scientology sanctions and is potentially watched by various accounts trigger happy to file complaints, I think it is a good idea for the subject to use the article talk page. He could edit the article, but it is better for him to use the talk page. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:24, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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: My bad; I didn't realize that Keith couldn't make those changes. Is there some way to know? ] (]) 15:42, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:: You wouldn't have known unless this was made clear. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:24, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Well, there was a bit of a clue in the user name! However, Celestra was led astray by the template Henson used to ask for help. --] (]) 20:05, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
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== Fixed the cites == |
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Added cites where requested. This is permitted by the non contriversal edits in the Wiki COI policy ] (]) 02:00, 1 September 2009 (UTC) |
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==Unprotection?== |
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Can this article and talk page be unprotected now so that unregistered users can edit and make comments? We can quickly restore protection if necessary. --] 20:10, 4 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:Not so long ago, an IP made a comment at another venue pertaining to this article and I ended up having to redact their comment per BLP. I did leave a message for Jechochman on this. I think protection at this time would be premature. –<font face="verdana" color="black">]</font>] 20:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC) |
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