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Thought you might want to improve this ]. There's so much material, and this seems to be right up your alley :) <b class="nounderlines" style="border:1px solid #999;background:#fff"><span style="font-family:papyrus,serif">]]</span></b> 19:27, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


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I don't see why you have to be so unpleasant. You surely must be aware that the major problem with RfA is the behaviour of the participants. I don't do blocks for incivility, I also rarely leave warning templates, but if you contribute in a less collegial manner again, I will raise the matter at ANI and let others decide. I will also begin an RfC for the community to decide what are acceptable criteria for adminship. ] (]) 21:31, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
:{{u|Kudpung}} I don't see why you won't look at the other guys comments in the same light - or is it because he's also an admin, and it is OK for him to make aggressive comments alleging that I think that he's a less than capable admin. Second, do whatever you feel you need to do. ANI doesn't bother me, nor does ArbCom. On the RfC? Go for it. It's been tried before, but if you really want to help, do an RfC for Admin Recall by the community. In the meantime, stay off of my talk page. <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">]&nbsp;]</span> 00:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
:Kudpung this may be hard for you to hear or understand, but you have been one of the most unpleasant participants recently at RFA. There is nothing uncollegial about Greg’s oppose, and in fact they have an essay explicitly stating the rationale behind it. If you want to have an RFC then open one, but stop threatening good faith users under your view for how things ought to be. ] (]) 02:43, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
::{{U|Mr Ernie}}, it's worth noting that Kudpung has been rather civil during this discussion. I'm on his side, not that I need to be. ]] 04:40, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
:::{{U|Squeeps10}} - you can stay off my talk page too, if you are going to defend someone who came here making threats. <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">]&nbsp;]</span> 07:39, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
: Kudpung, I expected ''unpleasant behaviour'' in the RfA but all I see (I didn't check history) is the most factual kind of oppose I could imagine: a link to specific criteria. What is it you see differently? As you can't reply here, could you post something on your talk, or the RfA talk? - GregJackP, I'm always delighted to see your name on my watchlist. --] (]) 06:33, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
:I'm also struggling to see what Kudpung has taken issue with. A major issue with RFA is the way oppose !voters are almost invariably badgered, often quite aggressively. It should be enough to say "I don't think this person would be a good admin because..." and for the Crats to appraise the !vote's worth. '''''] ]<small><FONT COLOR="#313F33"> and the soapdish</FONT></small>''''' 09:06, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
::{{U|Squeeps10}} - I deleted your post on my talk page, and will do so for any future comment that you make here. Last warning, stay off of my talk page. Next time, I'll take you to ANI for harassing me. <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">]&nbsp;]</span> 15:49, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
:::{{U|Squeeps10}} - since you are a relative newbie, I'll explain this one last time. A user may request that another user stay off of his talk page, and the community will normally support that. Second, I posted a link to my ] when I opposed the nomination. I have no need to explain anything else, and the 'crats know how to evaluate my !vote. Third, the posts by the two admins were meant to harass and intimidate, and I won't put up with it. Fourth, while Misplaced Pages will continue with or without me, it needs me more that I need it. I create content, and in areas where most editors won't go. I have no problem going away again, but it will take a lot more than threats of ANI for "civility" issues to make me change the way I conduct myself. Finally, I wasn't uncivil, although I was blunt. There is not a requirement to say please and thank you when someone tries to intimidate and harass an editor for their position on an RfA. <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">]&nbsp;]</span> 16:21, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

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Just curious how you go about determining the number of FA or GA that a particular user has created and/or brought up to that level. I know you get hammered for your opinion all the time, and I'm not one to get into those sort of philosophical debates, so this isn't anything to do with any of that. I'm just wondering if there is some sort of automated tool that I don't know about that combs through an account's edits and compares against a list of FA and GA, or if you have to manually look at the editor's most-edited pages and check if they are FA or GA, or if you had a different technique. Thanks. ] (]) 18:46, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
: ], ], I'm not Greg, but you can find that sort of stuff at https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages . ]] 18:54, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
::{{U|Useight}}, in addition, during an RfA/RfB, there is a toolbox with links to all sorts of tools. In addition to what {{U|Squeeps10}} posted above, there is an articles created link. Mine is and shows 87 total articles created, 2 FAs, and 13 GAs. That's not the whole story though, and you have to dig deeper as the editor may not have created the article. For FAs, you can also go to ], where it will show that I have a total of 5 FAs. It will also show how many former FAs they have. It's more difficult for GAs, but I usually use the Xtools link, then go to most edited pages and look for GAs. Then I check the talk page of the article to see who nominated it and the history to see if they did any work on it. <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">]&nbsp;]</span> 20:33, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
:::Nifty, thanks both of you. I didn't know we had a way to see article creation breakdown by assessment level. ] (]) 00:12, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

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Agree, and said so. Different topic: I also agree with your Bier for Ritchie, but did you see what came before the (no suitable printable word available) block? Secret arbitration. We seem to reach a "culture" where complaints behind the scene rule. ] --] (]) 06:09, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
:I did see it, and I wrote and rewrote my comment on the block several times. Originally it had something to say about ArbCom too, but I thought better of posting it that way. BTW, that type of culture flourishes when the rules are more important than the people, and janitors are more important than content creators. <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">]&nbsp;]</span> 08:41, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

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:There was nothing about my reply to his questioning my oppose !vote that was inappropriate. I'll be happy to listen to your advice when you question some of the less than adequate support !votes. Until then, you are free to have whatever opinion you want, but I'm not all that interested in hearing it. Regards, <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">]&nbsp;]</span> 22:03, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
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**To be honest, I really feel bad and I was out of line to have called your criteria obtuse nor user antagonist words like “laughable” I violated my own oath to myself which is not to (speak) when i am upset. Myself & {{u|Ritchie333}} always butt heads but nonetheless they have always defended me whenever I was in trouble, we have a great deal of respect for each other, so when they mentioned that your criteria has remained the same over years, I paused for a minute and thought things over. I apologize for my rude comments, please do accept my apology. Even if I didn’t understand your criteria I could have engaged you in a more productive manner. If you choose to not to reply I perfectly understand & if you choose not to accept my apology I understand also, just know that I am indeed truly sorry for being rude to you. ''']''' (]) 16:14, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
::::{{u|Celestina007}} - that was very gracious, and I accept your apology, as I hope that you'll accept mine if I offended you. <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">]&nbsp;]</span> 20:02, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
:::::Thank you for accepting my apology.{{smiley}} It does mean a lot to me, you didn’t offend me in any manner, it was I who acted irresponsibly. Once again thank you mate. ''']''' (]) 20:38, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
::::::I'm going to take an unpopular position and thank you for your oppose on the RFA. Not on the merits, because that's entirely between you and your higher power. I'm thanking you for your ]. In my RFA, the first person to oppose MY run was acting bravely. I think occasionally a senior user might feel the need to give permission for others to disagree with a clear consensus, just because. In this case invoking your completely reasonable personal criteria (which I'm glad I passed) helps others to not "go along to get along." All of us want more and better sysops. We can't do it unless RFA is allowed to work itself out. Thanks again. ] (]) 16:32, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
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I tell people to just let Greg have his say and ignore it, but do people listen to me? *sigh* Now, that out of the way, I'm going to disagree slightly with the "must have 2 GAs" criteria, simply because sometimes that might not actually be sufficient. All GAs are not equal, and on some niche subjects like obscure species of mushrooms or minor hurricanes in Antarctica, it may be possible to meet the "broad in coverage" part of the GA criteria without too much effort. While working on a ]-worthy subject to GA takes far more time and effort, ''and'' is more likely to be the place where you'll encounter disputes, petty MOS wonkery, and all the general things trying to maintain a popular article at GA status will throw at you (''especially'' if it involves living people or ongoing events - in fact, I would avoid taking any BLP to GA if you value your sanity). ] ] ] 20:03, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
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*{{tq|I tell people to just let Greg have his say and ignore it}} - this comment is the perfect response, IMO. Thanks {{u|Ritchie333}}. <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">]&nbsp;]</span> 02:15, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
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I will say that you misgendered the candidate in your stint on Lozman; kindly correct to either she or they? ] (] • ]) (she/]) 04:47, 25 April 2022 (UTC) <small>it seems i confused the sections! ] (] • ]) (she/]) 04:48, 25 April 2022 (UTC)</small>
:I used generic pronouns in my response and will properly address her in the future. It was not an intentional slight, but I'm not inclined to go back and edit my post on something this minor. If she's offended, she can say so and I'll work out an amicable solution with her. Regards: <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">]&nbsp;]</span> 04:54, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
::Please see my comment on the RfA page&mdash;I think you're mistaken about the Bluebook form for the article titles. Regards, ] (]) 10:07, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
:::Could be, I've been wrong before. I'll look at your comment and dig out my Bluebook. Thanks, <span style="border:1px solid #900;padding:2px;background:#fffff4">]&nbsp;]</span> 15:14, 25 April 2022 (UTC)


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It is one thing to have your own idiosyncratic rules for how you vote on RFAs, and it is another to bait editors who say stupid things in response to your vote. Please don't make comments such as I'll be happy to respond as soon as you post a legitimate reason for supporting the nomination. PS, I'll be the judge if your response is legitimate or not. on RFAs, even in response to people who don't have legitimate reasons to support the RFA. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 19:18, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

There was nothing about my reply to his questioning my oppose !vote that was inappropriate. I'll be happy to listen to your advice when you question some of the less than adequate support !votes. Until then, you are free to have whatever opinion you want, but I'm not all that interested in hearing it. Regards, GregJackP Boomer! 22:03, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
    • To be honest, I really feel bad and I was out of line to have called your criteria obtuse nor user antagonist words like “laughable” I violated my own oath to myself which is not to (speak) when i am upset. Myself & Ritchie333 always butt heads but nonetheless they have always defended me whenever I was in trouble, we have a great deal of respect for each other, so when they mentioned that your criteria has remained the same over years, I paused for a minute and thought things over. I apologize for my rude comments, please do accept my apology. Even if I didn’t understand your criteria I could have engaged you in a more productive manner. If you choose to not to reply I perfectly understand & if you choose not to accept my apology I understand also, just know that I am indeed truly sorry for being rude to you. Celestina007 (talk) 16:14, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Celestina007 - that was very gracious, and I accept your apology, as I hope that you'll accept mine if I offended you. GregJackP Boomer! 20:02, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for accepting my apology. It does mean a lot to me, you didn’t offend me in any manner, it was I who acted irresponsibly. Once again thank you mate. Celestina007 (talk) 20:38, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
I'm going to take an unpopular position and thank you for your oppose on the RFA. Not on the merits, because that's entirely between you and your higher power. I'm thanking you for your WP:BOLD. In my RFA, the first person to oppose MY run was acting bravely. I think occasionally a senior user might feel the need to give permission for others to disagree with a clear consensus, just because. In this case invoking your completely reasonable personal criteria (which I'm glad I passed) helps others to not "go along to get along." All of us want more and better sysops. We can't do it unless RFA is allowed to work itself out. Thanks again. BusterD (talk) 16:32, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, BusterD. I appreciate your comments more than you realize. GregJackP Boomer! 23:14, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

I tell people to just let Greg have his say and ignore it, but do people listen to me? *sigh* Now, that out of the way, I'm going to disagree slightly with the "must have 2 GAs" criteria, simply because sometimes that might not actually be sufficient. All GAs are not equal, and on some niche subjects like obscure species of mushrooms or minor hurricanes in Antarctica, it may be possible to meet the "broad in coverage" part of the GA criteria without too much effort. While working on a Million award-worthy subject to GA takes far more time and effort, and is more likely to be the place where you'll encounter disputes, petty MOS wonkery, and all the general things trying to maintain a popular article at GA status will throw at you (especially if it involves living people or ongoing events - in fact, I would avoid taking any BLP to GA if you value your sanity). Ritchie333 20:03, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Your RFA oppose (redux)

I will say that you misgendered the candidate in your stint on Lozman; kindly correct to either she or they? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 04:47, 25 April 2022 (UTC) it seems i confused the sections! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 04:48, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

I used generic pronouns in my response and will properly address her in the future. It was not an intentional slight, but I'm not inclined to go back and edit my post on something this minor. If she's offended, she can say so and I'll work out an amicable solution with her. Regards: GregJackP Boomer! 04:54, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Please see my comment on the RfA page—I think you're mistaken about the Bluebook form for the article titles. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 10:07, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Could be, I've been wrong before. I'll look at your comment and dig out my Bluebook. Thanks, GregJackP Boomer! 15:14, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

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Hi this IP continues to make disruptive edits and he has already broken the 3 revert rule. Please if you could take action it would be much appreciated. thanks. Oz346 (talk) 15:42, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

@Oz346: You'll need to contact an administrator or one of the notice boards on this, I'm just an editor like you. GregJackP Boomer! 16:38, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

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Such as below! Will you take it to DYK? Should I? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:49, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Already have nominated for DYK. Once SCOTUS rules, I'll take it to FA. Thanks, GregJackP Boomer! 15:27, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
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On 4 September 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Haaland v. Brackeen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a pending case at the United States Supreme Court, Haaland v. Brackeen, "could completely erase tribal sovereignty"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Haaland v. Brackeen. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Haaland v. Brackeen), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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