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== First Secretary of State ==
== Ancestry ==

I believe his offices are incorrectly listed.

He is listed at being First Secretary of State: 8 June 2001 – 27 June 2007. In fact, he held this office from 8 June 2001 - 28 May 2002, and again 5 May 2006 - 28 June 2007.

In the meantime, he was Secretary of State for Local Government and Regions from 29 May 2002 - 5 May 2006.

https://www.parliament.uk/biographies/lords/lord-prescott/374
http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpn=John%20Prescott&display=summary <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:14, 8 December 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I know that this comment is a couple of years old, but I '''agree''' that the dates for Prescott's time as First Secretary of State are wrong and should be changed in the article. ] (]) 09:57, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

::I have attempted to have a go at correcting parts of the body of the article in relation to this today, but I'm afraid that I struggle with infoboxes. Could someone please amend the infobox to include the following information, from the :
::* Deputy Prime Minister - 2 May 1997 to 28 June 2007
::* First Secretary of State - 8 June 2001 to 28 May 2002 and 5 May 2006 to 28 June 2007
::* Secretary of State for Environment, Transport and the Regions - 2 May 1997 to 7 June 2001
::* Secretary of State for Local Government and the Regions - 29 May 2002 to 5 May 2006

::Thanks! ] (]) 15:11, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Hey
Added news about him recently having a stroke.
Updates will come out in the following days.
We must keep it updated.

UnculturedOzBoz
12:00
24th June 2019 <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:00, 24 June 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:The notion that Prescott wasn't First Secretary of State but "Secretary of State for Local Government and the Regions" between 2002 & 2006 seems to be a retroactive thing on the parliament website based on the fact that in 2006 the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister was taken off him and retitled thus showing it did not need the DPM running it. Here's which lists Prescott on the title page as "The Deputy Prime Minister and First Secretary of State," and repeats this later on when listing the whole ministerial team. (Hit the enter key early.) The ODPM dates back to the June 2001 reshuffle and was an unusual bit of government that basically developed as Prescott picked up responsibilities and took his unit out of the Cabinet Office rather than a more straightforward splitting of the Department of Transport, Local Government & the Regions into two separate departments with two separate titled Secretaries of State. (The closest analogy would probably be the Ministry of Administrative Affairs in '']'' which also collected responsibilities rather than Jim Hacker changing actual titles.) In 2006 it was taken off Prescott and renamed as a more conventional department headed by a Secretary of State but that doesn't mean Prescott had been such before then. ] (]) 22:03, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
"During the filming of the programme it was discovered that his great great great grandfather, Thomas Parrish, was the most likely father of the first four children of Parrish's own daughter. Athaliah Parrish"
*That was claimed on the programme but no evidence was produced and it was disputed in family history circles. ] (]) 11:01, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
:I tend to agree with you that this is problematic, and as this is a BLP I've removed it at least for now. It's a rather extraordinary claim not backed up by DNA evidence as far as I know. It's based on his daughter having 4 children while living with him. But for all we know, that could be a live-in boyfriend, a secret lover, etc. Unless further sources emerge, I think this should be treated as speculation.
:Additionally, I very strongly question whether it has any relevance to this biography. I think each of us needs to ask whether whatever our non-notable great-great-great grandfather got up to should in any way be considered encyclopedic. Perhaps if Prescott were to go on to write a historical novel set in that time period as a way of dealing with his personal emotions about this, or some similar fantastic thing we could dream up, then this would be something that we would naturally conclude is important and relevant to the readers understanding of him, his character, and his work. But as it stands, it's just a curious tabloid-y speculation of little value.--] (]) 09:45, 1 February 2012 (UTC)


::Hello again! The parliament.uk website would normally seem like the best source to use for this sort of thing, so I hope you understand why I used it, but I do now agree that the ODPM is an outlier. Indeed, The London Gazette refers to Prescott as First Secretary of State in the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister in June 2003. I notice that you've already reversed my edits, so thank you for that! ] (]) 15:43, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
== 'box of kink' vandalism ==


== Television appearances: British Made ==
dates back to July 7, so this vandalism stayed in the article for 6 months. I have searched in Google web search and UK Google news archives, and I find absolutely no evidence that there is any truth to the claim at all. The who added it was blocked back in December for 'abusing multiple accounts'.


TV series on food manufacturing “British Made” ] (]) 09:34, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
I wish we had a system for immediately raising a red flag on edits done in the past by such abusers.


== Two Jabs? ==
In the meantime, I'm semi-protecting this article and encourage everyone who has helped out so far to continue checking every sentence of the article for accuracy and fairness.--] (]) 10:00, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
:Oh my I hadn't got to that section yet. I knew about him going about in his customized "battlebus" but I'm amazed that second part stayed in so long. I might add back a brief mention of his battle bus as it was pretty visible and shows his distinct campaigning style etc.] (])
::Given theres only about 100 edits showing I'm surprised just went through at that users contributions. A few moments looking has found this copyvio in the users userspace copied from a section of this .] (]) 15:27, 1 February 2012 (UTC)


Always understood that the nickname was ‘Two Jags,’ referring to his ownership and use of his Jaguars (even for very short journeys) during Labour’s promotion of ‘green credentials’ ] (]) 14:43, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
== Education ==
: "Two Jabs" is a not-unamusing play on the original "Two Jags", arising from the famous incident when some hulking oaf egged Prescott and was, as the sobriquet suggests, promptly socked twice in the face by Prescott. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


==He has died==
The Early life section quotes him saying he "went to school in Wales". However, all the places it says he was educated at are in England. ] (]) 03:46, 26 November 2012 (UTC)


Just heard on Classic FM Radio News this morning that Lord Prescott has died, in a care home.] (]) 06:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
== The Right Honourable ==


==Ships==
Following Prescott's resignation from the Privy Council, an IP persists in removing from this article the title "]". According to that article, the title is applied both to members of the Privy Council '''''and''''' to "Barons (including life peers), viscounts and earls, and their wives." Prescott is still a peer, so his title as "Right Honourable" needs to be reinstated. ] (]) 21:54, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Do we know which ships Prescott served on? ] (]) 17:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

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First Secretary of State

I believe his offices are incorrectly listed.

He is listed at being First Secretary of State: 8 June 2001 – 27 June 2007. In fact, he held this office from 8 June 2001 - 28 May 2002, and again 5 May 2006 - 28 June 2007.

In the meantime, he was Secretary of State for Local Government and Regions from 29 May 2002 - 5 May 2006.

https://www.parliament.uk/biographies/lords/lord-prescott/374 http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpn=John%20Prescott&display=summary — Preceding unsigned comment added by J1995421 (talk • contribs) 02:14, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

I know that this comment is a couple of years old, but I agree that the dates for Prescott's time as First Secretary of State are wrong and should be changed in the article. FollowTheTortoise (talk) 09:57, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
I have attempted to have a go at correcting parts of the body of the article in relation to this today, but I'm afraid that I struggle with infoboxes. Could someone please amend the infobox to include the following information, from the UK Parliament website:
  • Deputy Prime Minister - 2 May 1997 to 28 June 2007
  • First Secretary of State - 8 June 2001 to 28 May 2002 and 5 May 2006 to 28 June 2007
  • Secretary of State for Environment, Transport and the Regions - 2 May 1997 to 7 June 2001
  • Secretary of State for Local Government and the Regions - 29 May 2002 to 5 May 2006
Thanks! FollowTheTortoise (talk) 15:11, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Hey Added news about him recently having a stroke. Updates will come out in the following days. We must keep it updated.

UnculturedOzBoz 12:00 24th June 2019 — Preceding unsigned comment added by UnculturedOzBoz (talk • contribs) 11:00, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

The notion that Prescott wasn't First Secretary of State but "Secretary of State for Local Government and the Regions" between 2002 & 2006 seems to be a retroactive thing on the parliament website based on the fact that in 2006 the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister was taken off him and retitled thus showing it did not need the DPM running it. Here's the 2005 ODPM report which lists Prescott on the title page as "The Deputy Prime Minister and First Secretary of State," and repeats this later on when listing the whole ministerial team. (Hit the enter key early.) The ODPM dates back to the June 2001 reshuffle and was an unusual bit of government that basically developed as Prescott picked up responsibilities and took his unit out of the Cabinet Office rather than a more straightforward splitting of the Department of Transport, Local Government & the Regions into two separate departments with two separate titled Secretaries of State. (The closest analogy would probably be the Ministry of Administrative Affairs in Yes Minister which also collected responsibilities rather than Jim Hacker changing actual titles.) In 2006 it was taken off Prescott and renamed as a more conventional department headed by a Secretary of State but that doesn't mean Prescott had been such before then. Timrollpickering (talk) 22:03, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello again! The parliament.uk website would normally seem like the best source to use for this sort of thing, so I hope you understand why I used it, but I do now agree that the ODPM is an outlier. Indeed, The London Gazette refers to Prescott as First Secretary of State in the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister here in June 2003. I notice that you've already reversed my edits, so thank you for that! FollowTheTortoise (talk) 15:43, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Television appearances: British Made

TV series on food manufacturing “British Made” RadioTimes David Woodward (talk) 09:34, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Two Jabs?

Always understood that the nickname was ‘Two Jags,’ referring to his ownership and use of his Jaguars (even for very short journeys) during Labour’s promotion of ‘green credentials’ 78.146.7.41 (talk) 14:43, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

"Two Jabs" is a not-unamusing play on the original "Two Jags", arising from the famous incident when some hulking oaf egged Prescott and was, as the sobriquet suggests, promptly socked twice in the face by Prescott. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.103.180 (talk) 23:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

He has died

Just heard on Classic FM Radio News this morning that Lord Prescott has died, in a care home.Cloptonson (talk) 06:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Ships

Do we know which ships Prescott served on? Mjroots (talk) 17:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

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