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	If the ] entry is going to mention that city's distance from Sydney . . . Oh, and you might mention the city's namesake.
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	As an inhabitant of Sydney, I honestly can't see why its subway is considered interesting - some details please, or else excise the reference -- MB
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	: Probably just a remnant of the ] nomenclature wars :-) --Anders Törlind
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	Manning: You don't find Sydney's subway system interesting? You've obviously never gone on a tour of the disused tunnels off St. James station :) -- ]
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	::Sydney's subway is really just the urban section of the suburban rail network. The most interesting feature as far as I'm concerned is that double-decker trains run underground in the city centre. >>>>] 01:15, 24 Oct 2003 (UTC)
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	:::Double-decked trains are the ''only'' type of trains on the CityRail network, and such that fact really isn't that interesting :) ] 01:19, 24 Oct 2003 (UTC)
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	::::Sydney is still the only city I know that has double-decker trains running underground in the city centre. If I choose to be interested by that then it's interesting. :P ] 13:13, 25 Oct 2003 (UTC)
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			== Distance from Melbourne to Sydney ==
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			Hi guys,
	Again, some discussion of Sin City's criminal past is worthwhile, but the article as it stands gives the misleading impression that the crime rate is extremely high in world terms, which is just not true. Not even Alan Jones can make it so.---] 07:31 Dec 5, 2002 (UTC)
			the distance between Sydney and Melbourne is different on the Melbourne and Sydney Misplaced Pages pages.

			They should be the same.
	I agree - the crime section seems very out of place - wm

			I've also flagged this in the Melbourne Misplaced Pages Talk Page.
	:I've bitten the bullet and yanked it and whacked a great big disclaimer on top. If somebody wants to fix it, well and good, otherwise it can stay well out of the way. --] 04:13 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)

	:: That'sinteresting - it was part of a seprate article in the first place! ( See history of this page) ] 07:35 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)

			Thanks ] (]) 23:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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			== Infobox images ==
	I just had a look at the ] city page and it seems to have more "stuff" and I think Toronto is good comparison city for Sydney. I might attempt to write some more stuff on Culture (isn't that with a K??) Film Festivals, Theatre (STC, Belvoir) Mardi Gras, Sydney Festival, SSO/ACO/Musica Viva etc etc any other thoughts?? ] 08:33, 2004 Mar 17 (UTC)

			I made an edit that swaps out the skyline image from 2023 with one from 2021, which I preferred as it showed much more of the skyline, including Sydney's new tallest building of One Barangaroo. Upon looking at the images further I think the current pic captures a pretty good portion of the skyline (and has a bit of One Barangaroo in it regardless) so I'm no longer inclined to change it.
	:feel free to expand the ] article, it's good to add a '''summary''' of whatever you add there in the main article, but don't add all the content in the main article. the toronto article is rather long, and should probably have sections such as '''history''', hived off into separate articles when they get very long, with prominent ''Main article'' links to them, similar to the way the country articles are laid out (see ] as an example of how this is done). unfortunately many of the city articles aren't following the ] template (even though it says it's for US cities, it can be used for non-US cities). ] 09:44, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)

			However, I do think we should swap the placements of the Sydney Harbour picture and the skyline, going with the convention that the first picture on a city's article is that city's skyline. Let me know if this is fine. ] (]) 01:35, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
	==links in headings==
	links should not generally appear in headings of narrative articles (sometimes it's OK in "list of"-style articles) see: ], also ] and other templates (see my comment above), as well other articles use the ''Main article:'' convention. ] 12:39, 16 May 2004 (UTC)

			:Actually I prefer the top picture to be the one with the Opera House and Harbour Bridge because these are the two most iconic images of Sydney. And the skyline picture could be of any major city anywhere in the world. We don't have to follow convention. Sydney is not like any other city: it has the opera house and harbour bridge! ] (]) 02:09, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
	== How to list LGAs? ==
			::I mean, NYC has the Statue of Liberty but it still uses the skyline as the first photo; same for Milan and the Milan Cathedral, or London with St Paul's Cathedral and Big Ben. I guess there is no hard and fast rule about this, but I do see that cities with modern skylines tend to have it first. Maybe we could have one with both the Opera House and the skyline in the same frame? ] (]) 02:21, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
			:::Let's see what others think. ] (]) 03:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

			::::Agree we should lead with the Opera House / Harbour Bridge image, per ] - this is consistent with the practices in other reference works (eg ) and is what readers are likely to expect. ] (]) 22:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
	I added a list of local government areas...IMHO these are more important then most of the listed suburbs...only ''notable'' suburbs that aren't also LGAs should be listed, e.g. Bondi Junction, Chatswood, Cronulla. But the list is pretty long. Too long? I don't know how to format it into two columns. Maybe it's better to have a separate article, 'list of Sydney local government areas'.--] 10:06, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

	== Chinatown of Sydney ==

	I'm trying to develop the Australian section of the article on ], so no country will feel they're excluded from the list. Does Sydney also follow the old touristy urban Sydney Chinatown vs. the new surburban Chinatown pattern? If you have any local perspective, please add them to the article.

	By the way, correct anything you feel is erroneous.

	* So people are very quick to delete the link to the main Chinatown article (I added it because it could use some more information on Sydney's Chinatown), but yet they're not so quick in adding much-needed new information to it. Sad.

	::I've added some info to the ] article, but I don't think a link to an article on generic Chinatowns is appropriate in a list of Sydney tourist attractions. The Sydney Aquarium listing doesn't need a link to ].--] 15:44, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

	== Rugby League ==

	The ARL is a unique sport mainly played in Sydney. Someone wanna write something about that if they're interested?


	== Largest suburban area ==

	I find no reference for this claim outside wikipedia mirrors. Its metro area is nowhere as big as LA's or New York's, and 'suburban' is a dodgy term. I changed it to 'one of the world's largest urban areas for its population', which is definitely true as the density is low.

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Distance from Melbourne to Sydney

Hi guys, the distance between Sydney and Melbourne is different on the Melbourne and Sydney Misplaced Pages pages.

They should be the same.

I've also flagged this in the Melbourne Misplaced Pages Talk Page.

Thanks Fido frog (talk) 23:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Infobox images

I made an edit that swaps out the skyline image from 2023 with one from 2021, which I preferred as it showed much more of the skyline, including Sydney's new tallest building of One Barangaroo. Upon looking at the images further I think the current pic captures a pretty good portion of the skyline (and has a bit of One Barangaroo in it regardless) so I'm no longer inclined to change it.

However, I do think we should swap the placements of the Sydney Harbour picture and the skyline, going with the convention that the first picture on a city's article is that city's skyline. Let me know if this is fine. LivinAWestLife (talk) 01:35, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Actually I prefer the top picture to be the one with the Opera House and Harbour Bridge because these are the two most iconic images of Sydney. And the skyline picture could be of any major city anywhere in the world. We don't have to follow convention. Sydney is not like any other city: it has the opera house and harbour bridge! Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 02:09, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

I mean, NYC has the Statue of Liberty but it still uses the skyline as the first photo; same for Milan and the Milan Cathedral, or London with St Paul's Cathedral and Big Ben. I guess there is no hard and fast rule about this, but I do see that cities with modern skylines tend to have it first. Maybe we could have one with both the Opera House and the skyline in the same frame? LivinAWestLife (talk) 02:21, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Let's see what others think. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 03:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Agree we should lead with the Opera House / Harbour Bridge image, per MOS:LEADIMAGE - this is consistent with the practices in other reference works (eg Britannica) and is what readers are likely to expect. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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