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== Good article reassessment for ] == | ||
| ] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 07:48, 27 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
| I'm wondering if someone from this WikiProject could take a look at this article and assess it. It was created by a student editor as part of ], and student moved the article to the mainspace on their own without submitting it for ] review. There are some ] and other similar errors which can be cleaned up, but my main concerns are that it's a ] which might not need it's own stand-alone article. I don't believe the university course this student created the article for has ended; so, it's possible that they are still going to get graded on their work; at the same time, it's been added to the mainspace which means that it probably shouldn't be left as is just because it's part of a student editing project. -- ] (]) 00:46, 9 April 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :] is currently a redlink. There is note visible at the redlink there that "14:57, 9 April 2019 ReaderofthePack talk contribs moved page ] to ] over a redirect without leaving a redirect (not ready to be live, looks to be redundant to an existing article)". Hey, ], could you please comment what is the existing article that you refer to? And, it seems wrong to move a mainspace article or a draft article (having a title) merely to a "sandbox". Would't it be better, at a minimum, to move to that title within a User's space? Anyhow, could you please do clarify about the duplication. Thanks in advance. --] (]) 22:55, 15 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
| *Sorry for replying a little late. In this case what happened is that this was a student whose work I was overseeing. I wasn't sure that the article would really survive and I also wasn't really comfortable with the title, as it's the type of thing that would likely need to be retitled at some point in time, especially if the page needed to be restructured. As far as duplication, it looked like this was largely redundant to the article on ], which discusses the majority of the content in the draft to one degree or another. I didn't know if there really needed to be a Utah specific article in this particular situation since the content in the draft was all LDS Church centric. If there was more content that extended beyond the LDS Church then it would be more reasonable of an idea, but there wasn't at that point in time. ]<small>(formerly Tokyogirl79)</small>] 15:26, 18 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
| == multiple Tintic mills? == | |||
| ] currently is a redirect to ], a mill "also known as the Tintic Mill or Harold Mill—built in 1920, and only operating from 1921 to 1925,... an abandoned refinery or concentrator located on the west slope of Warm Springs Mountain on the southern edge of ]. | |||
| ] is also located off Highway 6, but a good distance to the west, at a location southwest of ]. | |||
| It seems to be named "the Tintic Smelter and Tintic Mill"? It covers the Tintic Smelter, "built in 1908, dismantled in 1915, and replaced that year by the Tintic Mill" seeming to imply that the Tintic Mill is at this location. "Significance: This site aids in the documentation of the history of smelters and mills in Tintic. The Tintic Smelter, built by Jesse Knight, was constructed to combat high smelting rates of the 1908 period; and it resulted in lower rates by Salt Lake Valley smelters. The Knight-Dern Mill (Tintic Mill) was built as a joint venture by Jesse Knight and George Dern (Utah Governor, 1925-1933, and Secretary of War under Franklin D. Roosevelt). The mill utilized the ] of roasting ore in processing and received ores from throughout the western states." | |||
| So were there two places named "Tintic Mill", and the term "Tintic Mill" is ambiguous? It does seem possible that there were multiple mills in the ], an area which is not defined in Misplaced Pages yet, but which no one has asserted is small. Or was the Tintic Smelter replaced by the Tintic Standard Reduction Mill quite a long way afar? (Pinging ].) | |||
| Hmm, the Tintic Standard Reduction Mill is described as having been "designed and built by W. C. Madge. It is significant as the only American mill using the Augustin process during the early 1920s." Different process -> different building altogether? | |||
| --] (]) 22:39, 15 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :Page 99 of says this about mills of the Tintic Mining District: | |||
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| | text=Several mills were built at various locations in the region, but none of them proved to be very successful. In 1871 a small mill and smelter was built at Homansville, in Utah County, about 2.5 miles east of Eureka. In 1872 the Crismon-Mammoth Mine had a mill at the Tintic Ranch, and in 1873 the Mammoth Copperopolis built a mill at Roseville. The Germania Smelting Company constructed a mill in Black Dragon Hollow, and another mill was built in Homansville by an Ohio Company called the Wyoming. In 1873, the Shoebridge, or Ely, Mill was developed six miles south of Diamond. It operated until 1879. From 1893 to 1895 the Eureka Hill, Bullion Beck, and Mammoth mines owners all built mills, as did the Sioux and Farrell Mine owners in Robinson. In 1905, mills were built by owners of the Godiva and Uncle Sam mines, and, in 1913, by the May Day, the Knight-Christensen, the Holt-Dern, and the Tintic Milling Company. The last attempt was made by the Chief Consolidated Mining Company from 1924 to 1926. | |||
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| :The Tintic Milling Company was evidently located at ]; maybe the "Tintic Mill" there was theirs. This is the first time I've seen the name "Tintic Mill" used for the Tintic Standard Reduction Mill, which as I understand it was named for the Tintic Standard Mine at ]. Maybe the confusion results from calling it the "Tintic Mill", which may not be accurate. ] (]) 03:23, 23 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :I found this on page 104 of the same book: | |||
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| | text=Silver City's boom did not last long. Silver City peaked in 1908; by the late 1930s it was practically deserted. Freight rates soon fell and it was more profitable to ship the ore to Salt Lake Valley smelters. The smelter was dismantled and moved to Murray , where it continued to operate for many years. Later, Jesse Knight and George H. Dern (who would become governor of Utah in the 1930s) operated what was known as the Tintic Milling Company on the same site. Work began on the construction of this mill in July 1915, and by March 1916 some milling work was being done. By April the mill had proven to be a success, and by January 1918 it was shipping two bullion cars a month. | |||
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| :So, ], we both guessed correctly. The Tintic Mill was built and operated by the Tintic Milling Company on the same site as the Tintic Smelter. ] (]) 05:15, 23 June 2019 (UTC) | |||
| == Saturday's Warrior == | |||
| ] is up for deletion. Is this film notable outside of the latter-day saint community? The article needs more info on critical reception of the films/play. ] (]) 16:48, 2 July 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :AFD decision was "Keep"; sources were found and added during AFD. --] (]) 21:52, 21 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
| == Utah architects == | |||
| I've created a good many articles on Utah architects in the past, and recently have been cooperating with ], and we both have been creating more. Could we sort of keep track here for a while, and maybe discuss standards if that might be helpful? Or maybe just share about all that is going on, and hope some others might be able to help with some questions? I copy in a question or two raised by Zigzig20s elsewhere, and ask some more. --] (]) 20:08, 21 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
| There is ], now with 31 members, probably already covering the more major historic architects in the state. I bet some of them were started by me but left fairly incomplete. It includes: | |||
| *] | |||
| *], article has a link to ] (currently a redlink), HWB's son | |||
| *], created by Doncram in 2011, is very short, just covers two works | |||
| Recent new articles started by Z or me include: | |||
| *] -- what is his relationship to ]? | |||
| :They were brothers. A quick search at familysearch.org clears that up. ] (]) 21:14, 21 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
| *] | |||
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| *] -- NRIS2013a search shows just ] (1909-10), in Ogden, but he also probably co-designed NRHP-listed ] in Brigham City (1914). | |||
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| ===notability and merging=== | |||
| What do we think is enough to make an architect Misplaced Pages-notable? In the past i created articles for every architect i could find who had designed 5 or more NRHP-listed works, which are pretty major works usually. Now I create articles with fewer works. I almost always would not create an article for someone with just one NRHP listing. What about two, as for ]? Sometimes if an architect only created a few major works, it might be better to cover them in an article about an architectural firm that trained them, maybe. I don't recall myself ever merging already-separated articles back, though. --] (]) 20:28, 21 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :I oppose merging them. They were created as stubs and can/will be expanded. First we need to figure out if they designed more NRHP-listed buildings; and then they probably designed many more buildings not on the NRHP.] (]) 22:45, 21 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :For example we need to find the buildings designed by ] in Idaho.] (]) 00:05, 22 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
| ===Scowcrofts=== | |||
| Side question: by any chance was ] founded by ]'s ancestors? There is also ], designed by ]. | |||
| :Yes. Heber Scowcroft was Brent Scowcroft's grandfather. ] (]) 21:14, 21 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
| ::Wow, that's really interesting. Perhaps it could be added to his 'early life' section.] (]) 22:47, 21 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
| ===sources=== | |||
| *Obituaries are always good, are found with more skill by Z than me. | |||
| *] article has Allen D. Roberts source which might cover a bunch more?<ref name=Sunstone> | |||
| {{cite journal | |||
| |url= https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/pdf/003-42-56.pdf | |||
| |title= More of Utah’s Unknown Pioneer Architects: Their Lives and Works | |||
| |first= Allen D. | |||
| |last= Roberts | |||
| |journal= ] | |||
| |volume= 1 | |||
| |number= 3 | |||
| |date= Summer 1976 | |||
| |pages= 47–49 | |||
| |location= Provo, Utah | |||
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| * is now available. Browsing for "Julius Smith" finds nothing for me though. Also nothing for "Moroni" as first name. Oh i see, SAH Archipedia covers only 67 works in Utah, a tiny number relative to its coverage in many other states, as of 10/2019. :( | |||
| *Utah Center For Architecture's project on architects, which allows one to pick architect by drop-down list at , yields page on Julius Smith with 2 more works, 4 in total. :) It is already sourced in Moroni Wood article, has just 3 for him. --] (]) 21:23, 21 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
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| == Formatting Utah State Preservation Office historic site doc references == | |||
| Hey, {{ping|Zigzig20s}} and {{ping|Ntsimp}} and anyone else interested in this exciting topic!?! :) It probably doesn't matter much but there's been some variation in how we format references to Utah State forms, and maybe there is a best way or maybe not. Maybe we could share thoughts? | |||
| Take for example for ] as an example (where i happened to change the formatting by , but i am not sure about it). | |||
| Three minor questions: | |||
| *1) publisher? For documents we are linking to URLs at NPS, I have been putting ] as publisher because the NPS has "published" these documents in terms of putting them out on the web. As opposed to some cases where we really are getting it from a Utah State webpage. Or say ] because that is the entity which was collecting the documents and possibly "publishing" them somehow, at least presumably filing them and making them available upon request probably? Sometimes a Utah state or even a local version is available/published in form not yet including signatures, dates, stamps that eventually appear in version published by NPS, potentially with content changes too. | |||
| *2) state the word "Form" in the title or not... i sorta prefer not to say that, because i think it is a blank form until it is filled out and then it is something else, a nomination or an assessment/identification of historic merit. | |||
| *3) state how much text in the title out of three available lines? Putting all three in would give long title, maybe punctuated by slash ("/") marks: "Utah State Historical Society / Historic Preservation Research Information / Structure/Site Information: Cramer House". I have been omitting the middle line, "Historic Preservation Research Office", and just saying ""Utah State Historical Society Structure/Site Information: Cramer House", with no slash for the line change. Maybe it would be better to convert "Structure/Site" to "Structure-Site", too. | |||
| I do think it doesn't really matter which ways are chosen, or even if we are inconsistent, but could anyone else opine about 1, 2, 3? | |||
| == Best page title for monument ? == | |||
| Or, hmm, should this question be taken to some noticeboard, maybe ]? Or perhaps better, ask in terms of what would be preferred in articles being nominated for "Good" or "Featured" status? Maybe/probably the exact formatting does matter for articles to get promoted, so ask editors/regulars at ] and/or ]? --] (]) 17:54, 29 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :I think this is one for WikiProject NRHP. ] (]) 18:16, 29 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
| Curious if any project members have thoughts on the best title for the page about a particular monument in SLC: | |||
| == ] == | |||
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| Has this been demolished? Feel free to expand the article with good RS. Thanks!] (]) 00:59, 2 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :]: Do you know this please?] (]) 02:36, 2 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
| ::What's in the picture is still there. It was delisted due to extensive alterations; as I understand it, only part of the outer layer is original. ] (]) 05:12, 2 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :::Thank you.] (]) 05:16, 2 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
| ---] <sub>(])</sub> 14:26, 15 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| Just to be clear, Latter-day Saints University is BYU, isn't it? If so, shouldn't we create a redirect? The phrase "Latter-day Saints University" is not mentioned in ].] (]) 05:41, 8 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
| :Nope, actually! It seems to be the name for what became ], in Salt Lake City. The article reports it was an academy which never grew into the university it was intended to be. I do think BYU is the top LDS-associated university, but I recall learning somewhere that ] founded three colleges/universities (including the one that became BYU). Anyhow ] was redirected to LDS Business College by ] in 2013. ] was redirected to same in 2009 by ]. --] (]) 07:43, 8 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thanks.] (]) 08:13, 8 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
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| :{{re|Zigzig20s}} DO you have a list of reliable sources to be used to do this? You could start working on it at ]. ···] · <small>] · ] · ]!</small> 23:39, 18 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
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Good article reassessment for Great Salt Lake
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Best page title for monument ?
Curious if any project members have thoughts on the best title for the page about a particular monument in SLC:
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