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== RfC on scope of wet market article == == Women in Green's 5th Edit-a-thon ==


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Hi, there is a new RfC ] on whether the scope of the article ] should include those outside of Southeast/East Asia. Any participation is welcome! — <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:100%;color:black;background-color:transparent;;">]<sup>]</sup></span> 21:15, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
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Hello WikiProject Southeast Asia:


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Hi! There are two RfCs open about wording in the article ], located at its talk page ] and ]. Any participation is welcome! — <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:100%;color:black;background-color:transparent;;">]<sup>]</sup></span> 08:22, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
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== Requested move at ] ==
Hi,
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] (]) 16:11, 23 January 2024 (UTC)


== Request for review: would anyone be able to help with reviewing a draft wikipedia page for Farisha Ishak? ==
Season's greetings


Hi there
I am looking for proactive expansion and update support/input help the following (So far neglected but important topic) articles, if possible. Even if you feel your focus area bit different still contribution of few line may help bring in some different perspective and also help Misplaced Pages goal of neutrality. If you can't spare time but if you know any good references you can note those on talk pages.


I created an article for Farisha Ishak, a Singaporean singer-songwriter who won the first season of the Final 1, and was signed to Hype Records. She then did hosting, acting, and advocacy work.
* ]


I created the article in January and it was quickly rejected. However, I made changes a few days later, but it has not been reviewed again since.
This has been posted to this forum since, one of article review suggested to have more diverse editor participation to have more inclusive, neutral and balanced worldview


As this is the Wikiproject Southeast Asia page, so I was hoping someone may be able to help with getting the article reviewed?
I hope and request some editors from this forum too proactively and constructively participate in updating and expanding of article ]


Here is the link to the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Farisha_Ishak
Thanks, warm regards and greetings


If you have other tips or think another wikiproject page is better to ask for a review, please let me know.
] (]) 07:41, 2 June 2020 (UTC)


Thank you!
== One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement! ==


Best,
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''']''' is holding a ''' month-long ]'''!<br /><br />
== Help needed: can you identify where these people are from? ==
Running from October 1 to 31, 2024, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme '''Around the World in 31 Days'''! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least '''31 countries''' (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.


We hope to see you there!
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== Pontian boat ==
==Discussion at ]==
]&nbsp;You are invited to join the discussion at ]. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>]</sup> 18:13, 17 November 2021 (UTC)<!-- ] -->


The ] was a ] boat built in the 3rd to 5th century CE and discovered near the town of ], in southern ], Malaysia by British archaeologist ] in 1926. It is one of the earliest examples of boat-building in Southeast Asia.
== Downcasing "Province" ==
* {{find sources|Pontian boat|Malaysia}}
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* , by I.H.N. Evans (1926) JFMSM 12, 93–6 &nbsp; ''(metadata only; original difficult to locate)''
* , by C. A. Gibson-Hill (1952)
It would be great if someone would create an article about it. ] (]) 08:41, 25 November 2024 (UTC)


== ] ==
Per discussions, we downcased "Province" to "province" in all the ] articles and related. But so far not in ] or ] or ], which do appear to follow the same pattern in sources (capped only half the time, and often without province, as it's not part of the proper name). So, any objection to going ahead and doing the same with these? Any other countries in Southeast Asia to include? ] (]) 17:38, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
:For the Philippines and Indonesia, this does not apply, since we leave the redundant "province" completely out (provinces are rarely named after their capital), following usage in English-language reliable sources. The only exception is ] where capitalized "Province" is an integral part of the proper name in Filipino and English). –] (]) 18:32, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
::Agreed. ] (]) 19:53, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
:Yes, there is objection, for Thailand at least. This needs to be separately discussed for each country, as they're covered differently in reliable sources. There's no overarching need to enforce a manufactured consistency on article titles of different subject areas. --] (]) 07:58, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
::That's why I'm asking. Agree "no overarching need to enforce a manufactured consistency on article titles of different subject areas". Tell us about Thailand (I only sampled one province there, and don't recall which). ] (]) 17:03, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
:::While the word ''province'' is often omitted when the context is clear, the full names are regarded as specific proper nouns, or at least the original Thai names and their direct romanisations are. This is reflected by the ]'s directory of proper nouns, which lists each of the provinces with their prefixes, i.e. "Changwat Krabi". As ''province'' is the direct translation for the Thai term ''changwat'', I think translated names should be treated the same way. While sources are inconsistent, Google Ngrams show capital ''Province'' to have long been much more common in most cases, though the gap does appear to be closing. Recent news sources appear to prefer decapitalising the term, and there is of course room for debate. But any renaming proposal for Thai provinces must be considered together with all the district and subdistrict articles, lest a larger inconsistency be created among Thailand's administrative divisions instead. --] (]) 18:00, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
::::Yes, I understand that some will want to cap "Province" as a direct translation of Changwat. But the source you linked does not do so, and most sources (per my estimate) also don't cap it. The caps we see in books, news, etc., are most often from title-case things like article titles, table entries, headings, map labels, and addresses, not use in sentences, which is what we go by, per ]. It's consistently lowercase, at these sites, for example: tourismthailand.org, renown-travel.com, statoids.com, cnn.com, time.com, usnews.com, smartraveller.gov.au, and bangkokpost.com. And consistently capped at many fewer as far as I can find (lonelyplanet.com and healthqual.ucsf.edu). ] (]) 20:57, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
::::Good idea on the District and other capitalizations, too. I haven't gotten to that (it will be easier after Province is resolved). ] (]) 20:59, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
:::{{ec}}The pattern for most or all provinces of Thailand is ], with a corresponding article ] for its administrative capital. Looking at it, "Province" serves as a disambiguator here and should in theory be downcased. Unless the majority of sources treat "Province" as part of the name and capitalize it. <s>What about the names in Thai? Is จังหวัด an integral part of the name, or also just an disambiguator?</s>
:::Just for fun, I have looked up four arbitrarily selected provinces in Google Books Ngram Viewer: , , , . Not really encouraging... –] (]) 18:03, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
::::Indeed, they all show very mixed capping. And looking into books, it's pretty clear that the context of capping is often tables and headings, not in sentences. ] (]) 20:36, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
:Couldn't you just remove "province" altogether? "Province" is an English term anyway, the name of the province matters more so than the demonyn. And these countries in South East Asia are different culturally, you grouping them all together as if they are the same and similar isn't right. Please be more open minded.] (] • ]) 12:09, 30 November 2021 (UTC)</span>
::Yes, in many cases you could just remove Province; primary redirects exist in many such cases, e.g. ] –> ]. In many other cases, such as ], removing Province would be ambiguous with its capital city ]. In situations like this, a convention with a bit of "unnecessary disambiguation" is often preferred, as in ] where we conventionally include state names even when city names would be unambiguous, to make the titles more recognizable as US city names. Similarly, including "province" makes the title more recognizable as a province name as opposed to something else. I have no strong opinion about whether this is the best convention here, but it is clearly the convention that we have, and I doubt there's much appetite to change it. ] (]) 19:02, 30 November 2021 (UTC)


I'm about done with Laos and Cambodia (except for getting the Category names' caps fixed). It looks to me like Thailand should follow, based on sources and this discussion. Any objections? ] (]) 06:10, 2 December 2021 (UTC) Please help de-orphan, source, and rate this new stub. ] (]) 05:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
:Please start full RM discussions that cover all the affected articles, as is the proper procedure, so that interested editors who may be watching the articles but not this WikiProject discussion page may get notified. For Thailand, I'd recommend as above to include district and subdistrict articles as well. --] (]) 13:15, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

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WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2023!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

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Request for review: would anyone be able to help with reviewing a draft wikipedia page for Farisha Ishak?

Hi there

I created an article for Farisha Ishak, a Singaporean singer-songwriter who won the first season of the Final 1, and was signed to Hype Records. She then did hosting, acting, and advocacy work.

I created the article in January and it was quickly rejected. However, I made changes a few days later, but it has not been reviewed again since.

As this is the Wikiproject Southeast Asia page, so I was hoping someone may be able to help with getting the article reviewed?

Here is the link to the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Farisha_Ishak

If you have other tips or think another wikiproject page is better to ask for a review, please let me know.

Thank you!

Best, Anilorac207 2603:6080:5802:4B07:1D5E:1C2A:8927:EC46 (talk) 12:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Nusantara (city)#Requested move 16 July 2024

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Women in Green's October 2024 edit-a-thon

Hello WikiProject Southeast Asia:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2024!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2024, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there!

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Pontian boat

The Pontian boat was a lashed-lug boat built in the 3rd to 5th century CE and discovered near the town of Pontian, in southern Pahang, Malaysia by British archaeologist Ivor Evans in 1926. It is one of the earliest examples of boat-building in Southeast Asia.

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It would be great if someone would create an article about it. Mathglot (talk) 08:41, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Jean Khamsé Vithavong

Please help de-orphan, source, and rate this new stub. Bearian (talk) 05:25, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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