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I don't think we know each other, but I just want you to know that you have my sympathy for how the case went down, and my hope is that the vast majority of Wikipedians understand that there is a right side to the dispute, which is the side you were on. ArbCom has been making examples of out of people for years and it seems to often be a stretch, although I haven't reviewed all the diffs on behavior that they cited yet. I hope you continue as your efforts are appreciated. ] | (] - ]) 09:11, 30 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
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] You are invited to join the discussion at ].  Hi, I put Brianna Wu on my watchlist to see if I could help bring a more civil process to it's editing, which I am sure is the intent of most of the editors. I see that you reverted some edits, & thought you should join in a discussion. There is an editor who would like to include some links & I am seeking your (pl.) guidance. Thanks. ] (]) 02:15, 4 February 2015 (UTC){{Z48}}<!-- ] --> | |||
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Hey, since we're both banned from a certain topic, why don't we join together in editing a topic of mutual interest? What say you? ] (]) 14:36, 7 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
:I have absolutely no interest in contributing to a project which is actively punishing me for defending living people from a vicious, coordinated campaign of harassment and libel by anonymous trolls using the encyclopedia as a weapon of character assassination. ] (]) 00:37, 8 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Having stumbled on this whole GamerGate thing when the media began covering it, I read the decision relating to you, and I think you did right by the encyclopedia. Thanks for your work. ] (]) 18:52, 8 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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FYI, your edits to the GamerGate talk page didn't violate your topic ban because you were removing BLP violations and explaining your rationale for doing so. That said, you really should take it off your watchlist and avoid the topic area entirely. That page is very well-watched, including by a lot of sensible people who won't hesitate to remove BLP violations—and then usually bring them to my attention or that of another admin. Your edits to Jimmy Wales' talk page, however, very much were in violation of your topic ban, and had they been reported while they were fresh, you almost certainly would have been blocked. I ''strongly'' recommend you avoid the topic area like the plague—for your own sake as much as anyone else's. A block is the inevitable result if you continue to involve yourself in the topic area beyond necessary BLP enforcement, and even then it would be much better to get somebody to remove it than to do it yourself—I'm sure you're aware that a topic-banned editor removing BLP violations is only likely to ] to the material, which is of course contrary to the stated purpose of the removal. Feel free to bring this sort of thing to my attention by email, or to alert any of the active editors in the topic area if you don' want to talk to me. ] | ] 14:15, 11 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
:No, Harry. I will ''not'' be silenced and intimidated. Either this project respects living people and deals with the issues staring it in the face, or it doesn't. If the project wants to punish me for removing libelous and inappropriate attacks on Gamergate's targets, that's its right. The topic ban is manifestly a shameful, bullshit pander to a group of Internet thugs and if my actions here served to make that even more obvious, well, gee, I'm not sorry. I'm here to write an Internet encyclopedia '''that respects people and basic human decency'''. I've been punished for doing that, and I won't stop speaking out about it in all ways available to me within those parameters, until the topic ban is lifted and I'm exonerated for having done nothing more than the dirty work of standing up to an off-wiki-coordinated character-assassination campaign. ] (]) 19:14, 11 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
::{{talk page stalker}}Sorry for butting in, but I feel you've failed to take the whole ] aspect he brought up into account. Pretty much every day BLP reversions are made on the talk page by people who are not you, and nobody really notices or cares. It's become mundane. "NorthBySouthBaranof violates topic ban to remove Pro-GG super-ethical journalism from Talk page" on the other hand is the sort of stuff that hits the frontpage of /r/KotakuInAction, and draws tonnes of attention to whatever it is you were reverting. It also means that KotakuInAction's PreserverBot will autoarchive the diff of whatever it is you reverted, serving to partially counteract rev deletion. The most pragmatic way to acheive your goals here would be to stop doing anything GG related on wiki (or at least stop until enough time for a ban appeal has passed). ] (]) 20:18, 11 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::You are essentially saying that Misplaced Pages should give in to off-wiki attacks for convenience's sake (and yes, I see you posting over there, which doesn't speak well for you at all). I'm sorry, but fuck that, no, I won't be silenced and I won't be a sacrificial lamb. You really want a "Streisand effect"? ''Ban me from the project for reverting BLP violations against Gamergate's targets.'' One of us is here to build an Internet encyclopedia that respects people and basic human decency, the others are here to further an internationally-noted campaign of harassment and character assassination against living people that doesn't even pretend to be about anything else at this point. That divide is only growing more obvious by the day and the project's unwillingness to address it is unbecoming. ] (]) 20:26, 11 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::Firstly I find that "I see you posting there" comment a bit mean given that the only post I've made on Kotaku in Action is telling GamerGate they're stupid. Meanwhile half the posts I've made on /r/WikiInAction have been defending the decision to not ban you. . My actions off site have been mostly for the purpose of quelling outrage amongst GGers, and I in no way regret any of them. Also I'm not saying that Misplaced Pages should give in to offwiki attacks. I'm saying you should leave it to one of the other 10-gazillion editors who arent currently topic banned to revert BLP violations on the talk page, because if you do it, it will have completely the opposite goal to what you intend and only server to further publicise the information.] (]) 20:36, 11 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::Which only serves to illustrate both a certain group's unhealthy obsession with character assassination, and the manifest injustice of the topic ban. If my actions to protect living people happen to have those two side effects, sorry, not sorry. ArbCom decided to give my scalp to trolls in a hopeless effort at quelling them and there's nothing on this planet that's going to make that acceptable. As should be obvious at this point, Bosstopher, you can't make them go away by banning the people they're attacking. They'll just find another group of people to attack — as ] already found out. Anyone who opposes them is targeted. I won't be surprised if Harry is next. Going forward, I'll just e-mail any violations to him and it won't be long before he becomes the Sixth Horseman of WikiBias. ] (]) 20:43, 11 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::::Since you seemed to want to force me into "GG SPA" I might as well inform you that HJ Mitchell is QUITE safe from any backlash. Myself and many others would defend his actions, since they WERE in line with Misplaced Pages's policies. Contrary to what you seem to believe, GG does not attack indiscriminately, and any who chose to attack as such, would receive backlash from the GG community itself. I PERSONALLY would defend what he did to the death, even though I disagree with what he did. Civilized people, Mr. Baranof, can still respect and treat those who they do not agree with civilly. ] (]) 21:36, 11 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
Hello NorthBySouthBaranof,
Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.
Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.
Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.
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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
Hello NorthBySouthBaranof,
- Backlog
The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
- 2022 Awards
Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)
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Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.
Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.
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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023
Hello NorthBySouthBaranof,
Backlog
Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.
Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.
WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.
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Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).
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