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Hiya fellow North Americans. I recently worked on some of Misplaced Pages's articles for "Climate of..." various continents. I was surprised there isn't an article for ], but rather one for all of the various areas. I think it's a worthy article, and I hope you do too, since it would be a lot to do on my own. I have posted about this on the talk page for the ] as well. See ]. ♫ ] (<small>]</small>) 00:35, 26 February 2024 (UTC) | |||
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I see articles such as ] claiming that there is the concept of a shared 'central' time zone across multiple jurisdictions: | |||
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<blockquote>The North American Central Time Zone (CT) is a time zone in parts of Canada, the United States, Mexico, Central America, and some Caribbean islands.</blockquote> | |||
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This is misleading, easily goes out of date and unsupported in sources. Given that DST transition dates weren't the same in MX (for the areas that abandoned DST), you end up with a situation, between transition dates of the jurisdictions, where cities that Misplaced Pages claims are both on 'Central' time would have differing UTC offsets. Cross-border time zones are a fragile concept that only coincidentally is true as long as legislation doesn't change. And it is synthesized by editors. | |||
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Observe how ] is *also* referred to as Pacific Time. I would be very surprised to see Mexican legislation actually having synonyms like this. | |||
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So what are we gaining here? My proposal is to stop saying that Mexican or Canadian cities use any of the US time zone names like Central/Mountain/Pacific. We can say that, as of legislation in year XXXX, an offset coincides in a given winter/summer. That's a statement that won't go out of date. And there should be a separate article for Mexican Central time, just like there is a separation between ] and ]. It's not the same, it just happens to be the same for most places, according to current legislation. --] (]) 15:48, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Missing topics list
My list of missing articles about places in North America is updated - Skysmith (talk) 20:26, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I'm getting the taskforce back together, Man!
As the title suggests, I'm rebooting the North American History taskforce. It would kind of help if I wasn't the only one who was in it. I was planning on making it into a portal when we get enough participants. Please help! I'm lonely... Ghinga7 (talk) 19:31, 6 August 2020 (UTC) P.S. I'm leaving similar messages at a couple of wikiprojects and the talk page of the History of North America article. Hope you can join!
BC–AD –> BCE–CE — is it time to change the Archaic period? (discussion)_BCE–CE_—_is_it_time_to_change_the_Archaic_period?_(discussion)-2021-03-17T16:23:00.000Z">
A discussion about changing the era dating style at Archaic period (North America) is underway at Talk:Archaic period (North America)#Era (times are changing). Please join. – S. Rich (talk) 16:23, 17 March 2021 (UTC)_BCE–CE_—_is_it_time_to_change_the_Archaic_period?_(discussion)"> _BCE–CE_—_is_it_time_to_change_the_Archaic_period?_(discussion)">
Draft for the Climate of North America
Hiya fellow North Americans. I recently worked on some of Misplaced Pages's articles for "Climate of..." various continents. I was surprised there isn't an article for Climate of North America, but rather one for all of the various areas. I think it's a worthy article, and I hope you do too, since it would be a lot to do on my own. I have posted about this on the talk page for the weather WikiProject as well. See Draft:Climate of North America. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:35, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Ongoing Requested Move Discussion
There is a proposed and ongoing requested move discussion to move 2023–24 US winter to 2023–24 North American winter. You can participate in the discussion here: Talk:2023–24 US winter#Requested move 7 March 2024. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 16:56, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
WP:WikiProject Oral tradition
Would people be interested in joining a wikiproject on improving and creating articles about oral tradition? Misplaced Pages's coverage on this appears to be very poor Kowal2701 (talk) 19:02, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
DST and time zone names
I see articles such as Central Time Zone claiming that there is the concept of a shared 'central' time zone across multiple jurisdictions:
The North American Central Time Zone (CT) is a time zone in parts of Canada, the United States, Mexico, Central America, and some Caribbean islands.
This is misleading, easily goes out of date and unsupported in sources. Given that DST transition dates weren't the same in MX (for the areas that abandoned DST), you end up with a situation, between transition dates of the jurisdictions, where cities that Misplaced Pages claims are both on 'Central' time would have differing UTC offsets. Cross-border time zones are a fragile concept that only coincidentally is true as long as legislation doesn't change. And it is synthesized by editors.
Observe how es:Tiempo de la montaña is *also* referred to as Pacific Time. I would be very surprised to see Mexican legislation actually having synonyms like this.
So what are we gaining here? My proposal is to stop saying that Mexican or Canadian cities use any of the US time zone names like Central/Mountain/Pacific. We can say that, as of legislation in year XXXX, an offset coincides in a given winter/summer. That's a statement that won't go out of date. And there should be a separate article for Mexican Central time, just like there is a separation between Time in Saskatchewan and UTC-5. It's not the same, it just happens to be the same for most places, according to current legislation. --Ysangkok (talk) 15:48, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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