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:::The ] does in fact assert that Dobson is an "Advocate" of Dominionism -- and that is a demonstrably false assertion. I don't have a problem leaving in notes that the claim is made, so long as it can be pointed out that the claim is only a claim, and is not based on any statements by Dobson, or facts about the beliefs of "Dominionism". ] 00:25, 28 April 2007 (UTC) | :::The ] does in fact assert that Dobson is an "Advocate" of Dominionism -- and that is a demonstrably false assertion. I don't have a problem leaving in notes that the claim is made, so long as it can be pointed out that the claim is only a claim, and is not based on any statements by Dobson, or facts about the beliefs of "Dominionism". ] 00:25, 28 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Original research
Please read the Misplaced Pages policy on "original research" - you cannot insert your own opinions and arguments into articles, you need to cite reliable sources. In addition, the standard for inclusion in Misplaced Pages is verifiability, not truth. The fact that you "know" something is meaningless unless you can support it with sources. In addition, Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox. You should not use an article to attack sources, you should not add long argumentative sections into articles. Just report what sources say. 72.198.121.115 12:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Verifying that people who hate Dobson claim he is a Dominionist does not make the claim that he is in fact an advocate of Dominionism "verified". People claim the moon landing was faked. This has not been verified... beyond the fact that nutty people claim it to be so. Frjohnwhiteford 17:34, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Seriously, read the policy. And while you're at it, read the policy on personal attacks, since you seem to be skirting the line. And given your edit-warring, you should read the three-revert rule - in short, don't revert an article more than three times in 24 hours or you may be blocked.
- As for your accusation that this is based on people who "hate Dobson" - do you have a source for that, or is that just another of these "truths" that you are making up? 72.198.121.115 22:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Do you have any quotes from Dobson that demonstrate he has advocated "Dominionism"? Just saying it's so, doesn't make it so. This whole line of argumentation you are taking is ridiculous. Dominionism comes from Calvinism, which produced Calvin's Geneva, and Knox's Scotland. Dobson's strain of Protestantism is the Holiness Movement, which produced things like the Abolitionist movement, the Salvation Army, etc. Let me also ask you, the sources cited in that article, what are their theological credentials? Cite one scholarly work on "Dominionism" that claims Dobson is an adherent. Finally, that hate is what motivates such obvious distortions is obvious. See the Wiki article on Dominionism, which states:
- "Dominionism is a pejorative used to describe politically active conservative Christians with a specific agenda primarily, though not exclusively, in the United States. Though the term is rarely used as a self-description, some left-leaning critics of the Christian Right use it to group together various strands of religious and political views. Opposition to these critics call dominionism "conspiratorial nonsense," "political paranoia," and "guilt by association."" Frjohnwhiteford 23:55, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- With all due respect, you don't understand Misplaced Pages's operating principles. Misplaced Pages should not say, and as far as I can see does not say, that Dobson is a "Dominionist", whatever that is. However, it can say that someone notable said he was.
- To take your moon landing example, Misplaced Pages does not say the moon landing was faked, but has an article Apollo Moon Landing hoax accusations to chronicle notable allegations that it was faked. --Saforrest 00:05, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
- The Dominionism Template does in fact assert that Dobson is an "Advocate" of Dominionism -- and that is a demonstrably false assertion. I don't have a problem leaving in notes that the claim is made, so long as it can be pointed out that the claim is only a claim, and is not based on any statements by Dobson, or facts about the beliefs of "Dominionism". Frjohnwhiteford 00:25, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
3RR Warning for Template:Dominionism
Please abide by WP:3RR, it appears you have already violated it there, and if you continue to do so you will be blocked from editing. FeloniousMonk 02:08, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
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