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== Thomas-Alexandre ==
==Questions==

Period is listed as "2001-2020". Really? <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:00, 21 February 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

: Thanks for spotting the error. It has now been fixed.--] (]) 05:18, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Was Alexandre Dumas a film writer??

In the second paragraph, In 1862, she gave birth to a son, Thomas-Alexandre, but she died soon thereafter. This is probably a typo for 1762. Can anyone confirm this?

::Anyone got a source for 'inspired more than 200 motion pictures'? He is listed as writer for about 120 on the IMDB.
] 16:18, 1 Aug 2003 (UTC)


Technically though, '''Alexandre Dumas, père''' was a ], and not a ], right? &mdash;] 14:22, Jun 22, 2004 (UTC)

:The mention of ''mulatto'' is of his father, General Thomas-Alexandre Dumas. &mdash;] 11:05 Aug 10, 2004 (PDT)

The discussion of his ethnicity in this article makes no sense to me. He father seems to certainly have been half Afro-Antilles and half French. But the article states that his mother was a black slave (possibly creole). Therefore, he was likely to be anywhere from 50-75% of African origin. However there seems to be a misunderstanding of this or lack of clarity of this in the article, unless one goes to read the article about his father. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:02, 20 April 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

::People have tried to clarify: Thomas-Alexandre Dumas Davy's mother was enslaved and his father was French, so he was classified as mulatto (and also, later after his father freed him, as a free person of color - ''gens du couleur libre'', a specific class in colonial Saint-Domingue and France that meant a person of mixed ancestry.) As an adult, Thomas-Alexandre Dumas married a Frenchwoman in France, so their son Alexandre Dumas was three-quarters European/French and one-quarter African descent, or quadroon. Saint-Domingue had numerous people of mixed race, so Thomas-Alexandre's mother could have been a slave of mixed race, but the article on him notes there were several contemporary references that described her as black, suggesting she was mostly African in ancestry. By arranging a military education and career for Thomas-Alexandre, his father was passing on social capital to his mixed-race, natural son. Of course, Dumas also created his own achievements, as did his son.] (]) 22:19, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

== Dispute: most widely read French author in the world ?==
The first paragraph states that Dumas is "the most widely read French author in the world". This statement may be false as ''']''' could be the "most widely...etc." Can anyone confirm? --] 15:34, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

:He IS the most widely read French author in the world.

::It MUST be so, because you say so.
::: Ach, grow up and do your research. Dumas is virtually unread today. Verne is the most widely read.
:::Who says Dumas is "virtually unread?" I work in a library, he is still more popular than Verne. Just a casual observation in one library...)(Verne has more books, so it would make sense if he was more widely read.
] 15:17, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

::::Verne did NOT have more books; and anyway, on that logic G.A. Henty (40+ books) is more widely read than the author of Gone With the Wind (1 book).

My 2 cents in this debate: Unfortunately I cannot access Amazon (com, ca, uk, fr, ...) for a quick look at the rankings. IMHO Dumas is more read by a wide margin. First the sheer book production. Dumas wrote hundreds of books. The 26 listed in this article is far from complete. I do believe I have read all of Verne’s fictional works. I have been reading new Dumas for decades still entering every used bookstore I see for discontinued Dumas books; still found some 2 weeks ago. Secondly by today’s standard Verne is more of an “early adolescent” level. I read Verne mostly between 8 and 16. It was great then, but was always disappointed by new books or re-reads after that. I read Dumas starting around 14 and never stopped, including re-reads in my mid20’s and 30’s still bringing great feelings. The way the author disserts on the human mind, social classes, injustices, philosophy, geography, politics are still pertinent in today’s globalized world filled with similar adventures. NOT to compare these 2 great authors that I love, but I do believe Dumas is read by 100's of millions of adults around the world, while Verne by 10's of millions of young adolescents.

::: The preceding comment is hereby seconded. Nobody reads Verne today, except in cartoon format. He's just not that good. Dumas is one of the most underestimated French authors, far better than Hugo. That's a subjective comment, in case nobody noticed, but in my opinion Dumas is one of the best historical fictionalists and satirists ever. //roger.duprat.copenhagen <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 15:12, 4 April 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== About General Dumas ==

"Growing up, his mother's stories of his father's brave military deeds during the glory years of Napoleon I of France spawned Alexandre's vivid imagination for adventure and heroes. "

If General Dumas died in 1806, then he missed most of those "glory years" since the 1st Empire lasted from 1805 to 1815. I think we should rephrase this or verify the year of his death.

Also did his father die on the battlefield or due to battle wounds, or for something else? Just being curious. --] 04:33, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

:] was a General in the ] (1789-1799) and was "First Consul" in the ] (1799-1804). I guess the wording depends on what you consider "glory years." Not a very objective description, I agree. I've added an entry for ]. He died in 1806 from illnesses that he got while imprisoned in Italy. --] 00:46, 08 Aug, 2006 (PDT)

Additionally, why does the "Early Life" section suggest that Dumas "...took his mother's name, Dumas, after a break with his father"? Dumas's father died when Dumas himself was only 4 or 5; it seems likely that their worst falling out at that point would have been over bedtime/naps/etc. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:46, 21 January 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:That sentence refers to Alexandre Dumas' father, General ], who was having a tiff with ''his'' father. ] (]) 15:06, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

== His paternal grandmother was a black slave. ==
So, is he 25% black or 50%? This is very confusing!

Why are we not told of the race and livelyhood of his other grandparents?

:Because being 75% white was not such a big issue as being 25% black, that's why. It also showed that although his father was subject to racism as a child, he still managed to rise to the rank of General in the revolutionary army. Balzac was also often frowned upon for having black African blood. --] 04:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

If the article made that point in those terms, I would agree with you, but it doesn't. Instead, it perpetuates the "one drop" theory: that one drop of non-white blood makes you non-white. That theory was a primary bulwark of slavery. It was and is a primary bulwark of racism. It is perfectly legitimate to discuss Dumas' ancestry, but it is not legitimate to describe him as black when he was in fact of mixed race. That's what he was and that's how he should be described. I suggest we take as a model the way the point is handled in the article on Dumas fils, where the facts are plainly stated without wasting time on racial categorizations.
] (]) 14:10, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Baaad typo: "Alexandre Dumas was born on July 24, 1602 ..." Well, I changed it to 1802, hope that is correct.

==title==
Why is this article called Alexandre Dumas, pere. Well I know why but wouldn't it make more sense to move it to '''Alexandre Dumas''' and have ] moved to ]. This is usually what is done for people who are related and have the same name. ]<sub>]</sub> 02:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

:Good question. The reason is because the author is generally known as "Alexandre Dumas, père," not just as Alexandre Dumas. His son became quite successful during his lifetime, so people during their lifetimes distinguished them with the appelations "père" and "fils." ] 19:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

::I think it's a bit strong to say he's "generally" known as such. He is ''sometimes'' known as "Alexandre Dumas, père", but he is often known as just "Alexandre Dumas". English-language editions of his works, for example, usually put just "Alexandre Dumas" on the cover, rarely including the "père" qualifier. --] 07:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

:I think its best to move as well. The father is far more well-known currently than the son, so he should be simply ] while the son could reamin at 'fils' or at the proposed (1824-1895) title. ] 22:31, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:Since when is the author of La Dame aux Camellias less well known than the author of The Count of Monte Cristo? I see no basis in verifiable fact for this whatsoever. Personal supposition is not the basis for encyclopedic work.
] (]) 14:19, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

::It's a really old discussion, but I should like to reawaken it. Is it really common in English-language sources to have him called "... père"? I find it quite unlikely. Go to the bookstore, pick up Three Musketeers off the shelf, and tell me what it says on the cover. Look for any "About the Author" section in the book, and tell me what name it uses to refer to the author. I can practically guarantee it'll say "Alexandre Dumas", without the "père". ] (]) 00:45, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

::Personal impressions are not data, especially when the said personal impressions aren't even based on real-life experience, but only on a thought experiment. The fact is that if you search Google Books, the largest repository of published books on earth, you will find hundreds of thousands of usages of both pere and fils. Now that this article simply says "Alexandre Dumas" as if the other writer didn't exist, the reader has to dig into the article before one can even figure out which writer we're talking about. That's plain silly.
] (]) 14:19, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

:::And this is the English section of the wikipedia. There is a French section. ] (]) 19:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

==''Le Comte de Vermandois'', ''Le Château de Blois'', and ''Ravaillac''==

] added these unsubstantiated claims. I have removed them. If they need to be readded, please cite a reputable source. ] 23:59, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

**''It is rarely known that Dumas had planned a fourth novel to end the D'Artagna Romances : "Le Comte de Vermandois", the title character beign the legitimized son of Louis XIV and La Vallière. Aramis would have had a final appearance, aged 80, as a duke and ambassador of Spain...

**''It is rarely known that Dumas had planned two other novels to end the Valois Romances : the fourth novel would have been "Le Château de Blois", beginning with the murder of the Duc de Guise and ending with the murder of Henri III ; the fifth novel would have been "Ravaillac", beginning with the crowning of Henri IV and ending with his murder by the title character...

==Allissa Davis is really weird.==

I found this phrase inside. Is it just an error or a vandalism ?
: It was vandalism and I removed it. ] 15:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

== 1825 {{05th ]}} Alexandre Dumas ] {], ]} fights his 1st ]; his ]s fall down ==
There are a variety of websites which say:

<blockquote>

1825 Alexandre Dumas pare fights his 1st duel; his pants fall down

</blockquote>

This was, as well, paraphrased by ].

However, I think that this needs more validation.
Do you have a further source?

< http://google.com/search?q=%22alexandre%22+%22dumas%22+%22%22+%22%22++belt+duel+pants+1825++ >;

< http://google.com/search?q=%22alexandre%22+%22dumas%22+%22%22+%22%22++belt+duel+pant+1825++ >.

What are ], ], ]??

&, that quote is, frequenly, next to:

<blockquote>

1822 ] proclaims ]ation to ]

</blockquote>

Do you have anything on that?

Thank You.

] &#124; &#91;&#91; &#91;&#91;%c2%a1]] &#91;&#91;%c2%bf]] &#91;&#91; %7e%7e%7e%7e ]] -]] 14:01, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

==Ghostwriters==

The word "ghostwriters" is very inexact when applied to Dumas. He employed assistants of various kinds as well as uncredited collaborators, who apparently created first drafts that he would rewrite. Most of his great novels were written with collaborators, but many earlier and later works appear to be his sole work. In some cases friends or acquaintances brought him their own manuscripts to revise and publish for their mutual benefit ("The Two Dianas" being one instance, which doesn't have much of the Dumas touch). To make matters more complicated, he also "presented" some works in French translations. English publishers subsequently published these stories under Dumas' name as his work ("Robin Hood") and even subsumed later pastiches, with which Dumas had nothing at all to do, mixing them into their sets of Dumas' work ("Countess of Monte Cristo," "Son of Porthos," etc.)

Might we rephrase as "assistants and uncredited collaborators"? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Afro-Caucasian ==

We have reference to support the inclusion of the category. I do not believe the reference is sufficient. What do others think? --] (]) 00:11, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

== Requested move ==
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The result of the move request was: '''Move''' ] → ]. No consensus to move the other page; if someone wants to continue that discussion, please start a new move request at ]. ] (]) 04:00, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

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] → ] — I have no idea how this article name has lasted so long, but it clearly goes against ]. In the English-speaking world he is most often known simply as Alexandre Dumas. ]] (]) 22:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

* ] → ]

*'''Support''' Far better known as "Alexandre Dumas" than "Alexandre Dumas, père". The . ] (]) 13:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

*Fine with the first move but what's wrong with ]? It seems more recognizable than ]. — <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;">]</span> 23:42, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
:Simply that it's not English. ]] (]) 07:59, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
::Sure it is. I just opened up a USA Bantam English translation of the ''Count of Monte Cristo'' and the two are referred to as père and fils in the biosketch. And the '']'' agrees:
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'''père''', n.

2. Used after a surname to distinguish a father from a son or sons of that name; senior. Cf. FILS n.1

1802 M. EDGEWORTH Let. 8 Dec. in M. Edgeworth in France & Switzerland (1979) 58 M. Delessert père at a card table with another gentleman. 1858 O. W. HOLMES Autocrat of Breakfast-table 28 Raspail, père, used to date every proof he sent to the printer. 1893 E. DOWSON Let. c28 Nov. (1967) 299, I am dining with Horne & Horne Père at the Constitutional tonight. 1907 M. A. VON ARNIM Fräulein Schmidt xxxiii. 120 Collins père is a person who makes nails in Manchester. 1948 E. S. TURNER Boys will be Boys v. 80 It will be seen that there was a Harkaway père and a Harkaway fils. 2003 Scotl. on Sunday (Nexis) 18 May 7 The early musical inventiveness and skill that was to lead Strauss père to global success.

'''fils'''

The son, junior: appended to a name to distinguish between a father and son of the same name.

1886 Athenæum 30 Oct. 565/1 Athanase Coquerel fils does not seem to have had any great distinction..of style. 1889 E. DOWSON Let. 24 Mar. (1967) 54 Dumas fils easily first. 1936 OGDEN & RICHARDS Meaning of Meaning (ed. 4) v. 89 Mill fils in his editorial notes on this passage holds . 1965 House & Garden Mar. 42 Russell père had been in banking... Russell fils..thought this a bit-too-cramping project.
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::The '''' (John Gassner, Edward Quinn) and '''' also use these forms. — <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;">]</span> 02:05, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm neutral on renaming the father; I'm opposed to the proposed rename of the son, though I query the current name:
* There is no doubt that the father's work is known to more English speakers than the son's. Whether this extends to the men themselves, and whether the degree of excess is sufficiently great to merit being the default target, is not so clearcut. But I can see no justification for "Basename" redirecting to "Basename (disambiguation)"; since this apperas to be a variant of that pattern, the move makes sense.
* Regarding the son, Misplaced Pages has multiple policies, which are sometimes in conflict with each other. In this case, ] conflicts with ]. The French word ''fils'' is commonly used for the son in English sources. If we are to render the names as fully as possible into English, then "Alexandre" should be changed to "Alexander". The disambiguator "dramatist" is inappropriate, since the father also wrote plays.
* Regarding the formatting: I'm not sure about the comma. When the forename is omitted, there is never a comma in "Dumas père" or "Dumas fils". When the full name is given, there is rarely a comma in French (e.g. ]); while a comma is less rare in English, I think "Alexandre Dumas ''fils''" is more common than "Alexandre Dumas, fils". ]<sup>(])</sup> 18:12, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
]<sup>(])</sup> 18:12, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

* '''Support''' moving article on the father per nom. I'd love to see some ''evidence'' of what English-speakers call the son. Perhaps ] would be an appropriate disambiguator? ] (]) 23:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
**As I noted above, one English edition of a Dumas book uses père and fils. Also note these sources: . As you can see, père and fils are the standard ''English'' disambiguators. — <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;">]</span> 02:05, 30 November 2010 (UTC) So I'll be direct...

*'''Support''' the first proposed move (of père). '''Oppose''' the second proposed move (of fils) per ] (use common names) and ] ''("When there is another term or more complete name that is equally clear and is unambiguous, that may be used.")''.

*'''Support''' the move of pere (no opinion about fils). Primary topics don't need disambiguation. --] (]) 09:27, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

*'''Support''' moving the elder Dumas to ]. '''Oppose''' moving ] unless it is to remove the comma; he is commonly known as such even in English, though my unscientific recollection is that I've seen the version without the comma more often in English text. <span style="white-space:nowrap">— ] (])</span> 05:38, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I still support moving the dad. As for the son, I've done a for the last 30 years, and it looks like "Alexandre Dumas fils" (without the comma) wins hands down (of the first 100 results, 68 had no comma, 8 had a comma, and 7 had parentheses/brackets (17 were actually in French, despite the English filter)). Do I need to make a separate move request for that, or can it be handled here as part of this move request? If we can do it here, then I would propose ] → ]. ] (]) 18:14, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::I added a movenotice template on ], which should have had it before. So long as the move request is closed seven days after the template was added, there shouldn't be an issue with closing that move to whatever target is decided on here. <span style="white-space:nowrap">— ] (])</span> 19:59, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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== Henry Bauer ==

"'''His other children were''' Marie-Alexandrine Dumas (5 March 1831—1878) who later married Pierre Petel and was daughter of Belle Krelsamer (1803—1875), Micaëlla-Clélie-Josepha-Élisabeth Cordier, born in 1860 and daughter of Emélie Cordier, '''and Henry Bauer, born of an unknown mother.'''"

How can Dumas be Bauers father, when Bauer was born over sixty years after Dumas' death? I admit I don't know anything about either of them, it just struck me as odd, as I doubt they had the technology to freeze semen in the 19th century... Possibly they are related in some other way, but this is not clear in the text. TheIncredibleNix 21:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
==Death==
It does not mention his death n the section headed death. How did he die?--] (]) 17:55, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

==Legacy==
one of the post-mortem (modern) developments not covered by the Dumas page is the inspiration for the written work "The Club Dumas" by Arturo Perez-Reverte. this in turn inspired the Polanski film "The Ninth Gate", though the film fails to showcase Alexandre Dumas as does the original novel.] (])

:Dumas is one of those seminal novelists whose legacy is felt throughout subsequent literature. Listing works or novelists that were inspired by Dumas or his work is somewhat pointless as the list is endless, as with Dickens, Shakespeare, Hugo etc. <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] (])</font> 21:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

== Dumas as chef ==

When I visited the Alexandre Dumas museum (on the site of his former residence "Monte Cristo"), there was much mention of the fact that, at least during his lifetime, he was also well-known for his talents as a chef - he organised large banquets for his friends for which he did the cooking and published several quite successful books of original recipes.

Can anyone shed any further light on that aspect of his career in the main article? ] (]) 19:03, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

== Repeated mentions of ethnicity ==

the term "black" is often used in the West to describe people whose skin is darker (not exactly "black"). Hence, the usage of the term "black" is undue. Use something more perspicuous. He was "black french" seems redundantly awkward and perplexing to me. It can raise a number questions in the mind of a person who is not familiar with the western connotations of the term "Black". Also, the article does mention quite clearly that he was a descendent of slaves. If you want to still allude to his ethnicity, then please use African french or something like that to make it clear. <p>Keep it neutral and as objectively correct as possible. Cheers, ]] <span class="plainlinks"></span> 11:04, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

:Ancestry shouldn't even be mentioned in the lead according to ]. ] (]) 11:21, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

== complete? ==
This site seems to have the most complete collection of Dumas' novels, even better than Gallica which is missing some volumes. In multiple formats, in French.
http://beq.ebooksgratuits.com/vents/dumas.htm
] (]) 18:44, 24 August 2014 (UTC)


== Date of first play ==
Is there a source for the claim, made in the article, that ''Henry III and His Courts'' was, "His first play"? The biographical article in my edition of ''The Count of Monte Cristo'' says, "Many plays and numerous mistresses later, Dumas scored an enormous success with ''Henry III and His Court'' (1829), a play which helped to inaugurate the new ''Romantic'' drama..." says he wrote his first plays in 1825 and 1826. describes him finishing one play in 1820 and writing two more the following year, collaborations, admittedly, but then goes on to say, "A minor theatrical success in 1825 had given Dumas all the encouragement he needed..." and goes on to say he had at least his second play on the stage before the end of 1826. repeats the claim that he wrote plays in 1825 and 1826. There appears to be plenty of evidence that ''Henry III'' was not his first play.

I also challenge the claim made in the article that,"Dumas refers to Grisier <b>with great respect</b> in ''The Count of Monte Cristo''..." In that novel, Grisier appears in chapter 40 (The Guests), where a character, Albert de Morcerf, is described as someone who, "cultivated with far more perseverance than music and drawing, the three arts that complete a dandy's education, i.e. fencing, boxing, and single-stick; and it was in this apartment that he received Grisier, Cook, and Charles Lecour." No mention of or intimation of respect, he merely says a dandy received Grisier in his apartment. There is also no evidence that Dumas ever took fencing lessons, with Grisier or anyone else, he merely wrote the preface to Grisier's novel ''The Fencing Master'', so it would be quite wrong to describe Grisier as, "his fencing master," unless you have a source for that claim too.'''<font face="times new roman">]]</font>''' 11:09, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

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==More Vandalism?==
I've deleted the following and its reference from the Career section: "The modern style of Charles Baudelaire inspired Dumas to create a symbolist style of poetry in France." It seems improbable, the purported reference is not a reliable source but a child/young adult history of France, and Baudelaire was 8 years old at the point in Dumas's career where the information is inserted.--] (]) 02:23, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

== Works ==

The list of works here is either incomplete, or excludes works that are thought not to be by Dumas. Under the putative section "Ghostwriters" a very few examples are provided of works heavily reliant on others (e.g. The Two Dianas, which is indeed listed in the article), and others that are thought not to be by Dumas at all (e.g. Countess of Monte Cristo). If anyone has knowledge here, please update the Works section and include a subsection (or another section) devoted to works that are of partial or doubtful authorship. Examples of works not listed that can be found today published under Dumas' name are Good Lady Bertha's Honey Broth, The Vampire, Isaac Laquedem, The Foresters, and Horror at Fontenay. I myself own a 1902 Collier 30-volume set of Dumas' works that includes The Son of Monte Cristo (Misplaced Pages says written by Jules Lermina) and The Countess of Monte Cristo (Misplaced Pages says authorship doubtful, could be Jean Charles du Boys); neither of these points is cross referenced in the Dumas article. Dumas does seem to be the most difficult classic author with regards to authorship (e.g., about every "complete works" has a different lineup), so it's not surprising that this article is having this issue. Another complicating factor is that many of his novels have alternative names; it might be helpful to include these. ] (]) 03:52, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

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Both the introduction and the "Birth and family" section switch between talking about Alexandre Dumas and his father, Thomas-Alexandre Dumas. His family is significant, but their names are similar enough that it ought to be more clear which person is being discussed. ] (]) 07:02, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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== Information-- Archaeological Superintendent of Pompeii ==
Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 04:51, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Dumas was appointed as Director of the Public Museums and Excavations of Italy and Archaeological Superintendent of Pompeii and Herculaneum<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/1860/10/09/archives/affairs-in-france-death-of-the-empress-sisterprogress-of-italian.html</ref><ref>https://academic.oup.com/book/2916/chapter-abstract/143562034?redirectedFrom=fulltext</ref>. This seems like somewhat significant information that would be beneficial to include.


I'm relatively new to wikipedia and unsure about this process, but what are others opinions on the matter?
== Picture in Early Life section not accurate? ==
--] (]) 11:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


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Just another cross-posting from my other Alexandre Dumas posts...
Early life section of this page has a painting captioned "General Thomas-Alexandre Dumas, father of Alexandre Dumas.". This same painting is used on the cover of ]. The back cover notes: "This most widely known image of General Dumas is also the most curious because it clearly is not a painting of him - it is a painting of his son, the novelist (Pichat's close friend), dressed up as his father, in full military uniform on a rearing horse.". Not sure if the caption ought to change to more accurately reflect that, or if this information has previously come up and been refuted. ] (]) 16:59, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

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Thomas-Alexandre

Both the introduction and the "Birth and family" section switch between talking about Alexandre Dumas and his father, Thomas-Alexandre Dumas. His family is significant, but their names are similar enough that it ought to be more clear which person is being discussed. 2600:1700:7F10:7270:AD91:5D91:14BB:462B (talk) 07:02, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Information-- Archaeological Superintendent of Pompeii

Dumas was appointed as Director of the Public Museums and Excavations of Italy and Archaeological Superintendent of Pompeii and Herculaneum. This seems like somewhat significant information that would be beneficial to include.

I'm relatively new to wikipedia and unsure about this process, but what are others opinions on the matter? --Beedlejoos (talk) 11:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

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  1. https://www.nytimes.com/1860/10/09/archives/affairs-in-france-death-of-the-empress-sisterprogress-of-italian.html
  2. https://academic.oup.com/book/2916/chapter-abstract/143562034?redirectedFrom=fulltext
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