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== GA concerns ==
Is it legal for us to include these logos? They are copyrighted, is it acceptable for us to put them here? -- ]


I am concerned that this article no longer meets the ]. Some of my concerns are listed below:
I think as long as its not generating any profit, its ok.


*At over 10,000 words, ] recommends that the article be trimmed or ]. After quicklying skimming the article, I think there is information that can be cut. Some suggestions on what to move/trim are below.
==Current Event Tag==
*"Franchise history" should be sub-divided into level 3 headings for easier reading.
I'm a huge fan of the Pats and I love to see them get coverage, but the current events tag doesn't belong on this article. As described on ]:
*The captions on some of the images are much too long. This information should be in the article body and cited.
*Records vs opponents and playoff records should be spun out into new articles or removed, as this is too much detail.
*Various team leaders should be moved into a new article as this is too much detail.
*I do not think the "NFL All-Decade and Anniversary team selections" is necessary for this article and can be removed.
*The "Patriots All-Decade teams" can be spun out into its own article.
*"Patriots Anniversary teams" Can be moved to its own article.
*"Pro Bowl selections" is too much detail and can be removed.
*"Controversies" section is, in my opinion, inherantly not-NPOV as it focuses on negative aspects. I think this section should be moved into the history section, where its impact on the team culture can be interpreted with other team historical events.
*There are uncited passages throughout the article.
*There is an extensive "Further reading" section: should these be used as inline citations or removed from the article?


Is anyone willing to help resolve the above concerns, or should this go to ]? ] (]) 02:04, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
:''The tag was created for two reasons:''


:As much as I absolutely despise the Patriots, and I do not regularly edit in football, I may attempt to fix the things you've listed here. Several of them seem quite simple. As for uncited passages, it would depend on the era. I'm not paying for print sources to save it, if those are necessary. ] <sup> ] </sup> 12:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
:*''So that users would know that the article was undergoing major revisions as events were happening.''
::{{ping|MFTP Dan}} Are you still working on this? If not, would you be interested in bringing this to GAR outlining the remaining concerns? ] (]) 01:04, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
:*''So that editors would know the same so that they could keep that in mind if/when they decided to add to or edit the article.''
:::I'm already working on another GAR at the moment and I'll be busy for most of the rest of the week. ] <sup> ] </sup> 01:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
:''It was originally designed for short-term use as a warning for editors and readers if an event was occurring right that very second (or very, very recently).''


== "]" listed at ] ==
The information on this article isn't changing rapidly and there doesn't seem to be a problem with edit conflicts. However, if someone wanted to put the tag back up for Super Bowl Sunday '''only''', I don't think that would be a problem. ] 14:03, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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The redirect <span class="plainlinks"></span> has been listed at ] to determine whether its use and function meets the ]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 24#2026 New England Patriots season}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> ] (]) 18:43, 24 November 2024 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2024 ==
My favorite ] team! ] 17:28 February 7, 2005 (EST)


{{edit semi-protected|New England Patriots|answered=yes}}
==Improvement drive==
Under nicknames:
] is currently a candidate on ]. Vote for it if you are interested!--] 20:39, 10 August 2005 (UTC)


America’s Team ] (]) 00:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
==Tedy Bruschi's status==
:{{Not done}}: please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 01:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
FWIW, it is correct that Tedy Bruschi has ''stated'' that he plans to sit out the 2005 season. That said, his current status--PUP, or Physically Unable to Perform--allows him to come back midway through the season. ]

== Putting the history section into a separate article ==

Since the history section of this article is getting long, I might split this into a separate article. ] ] 02:06, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

== Game by game ==

The history section of this article is getting ridiculous. We do not need a summary of each game for the 2005 season. --] 17:50, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

==Pat Patriot a symbol of ineptitude?==
I'm not sure if "many saw Pat as a symbol of ineptitude" is an accurate statement. On the day the Flying Elvis was unveiled at the stadium, the fans cheered for Pat and booed Elvis. --] 13:07, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

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GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are listed below:

  • At over 10,000 words, WP:TOOBIG recommends that the article be trimmed or WP:SPINOUT. After quicklying skimming the article, I think there is information that can be cut. Some suggestions on what to move/trim are below.
  • "Franchise history" should be sub-divided into level 3 headings for easier reading.
  • The captions on some of the images are much too long. This information should be in the article body and cited.
  • Records vs opponents and playoff records should be spun out into new articles or removed, as this is too much detail.
  • Various team leaders should be moved into a new article as this is too much detail.
  • I do not think the "NFL All-Decade and Anniversary team selections" is necessary for this article and can be removed.
  • The "Patriots All-Decade teams" can be spun out into its own article.
  • "Patriots Anniversary teams" Can be moved to its own article.
  • "Pro Bowl selections" is too much detail and can be removed.
  • "Controversies" section is, in my opinion, inherantly not-NPOV as it focuses on negative aspects. I think this section should be moved into the history section, where its impact on the team culture can be interpreted with other team historical events.
  • There are uncited passages throughout the article.
  • There is an extensive "Further reading" section: should these be used as inline citations or removed from the article?

Is anyone willing to help resolve the above concerns, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 02:04, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

As much as I absolutely despise the Patriots, and I do not regularly edit in football, I may attempt to fix the things you've listed here. Several of them seem quite simple. As for uncited passages, it would depend on the era. I'm not paying for print sources to save it, if those are necessary. mftp dan 12:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
@MFTP Dan: Are you still working on this? If not, would you be interested in bringing this to GAR outlining the remaining concerns? Z1720 (talk) 01:04, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
I'm already working on another GAR at the moment and I'll be busy for most of the rest of the week. mftp dan 01:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

"2026 New England Patriots season" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect 2026 New England Patriots season has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 24 § 2026 New England Patriots season until a consensus is reached. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:43, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2024

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America’s Team Bodiaz1 (talk) 00:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. LizardJr8 (talk) 01:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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