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== Wikivoice for Israeli claims == |
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Please don't use wikivoice for Israeli claims that are not independently confirmed.''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 17:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== Article title == |
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While the strikes did happen in both Israel and Lebanon, it appears the damage is totally asymmetric. All of the deaths appear to be in Lebanon. This looks less like cross-border fire and more like a large-scale attack by Israel.''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 17:48, 23 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:I don't disagree, but it's also important to mention that the IDF is totally indiscriminate (ie openly targeting civilians) and their military censors hide a lot. So it's unclear just how much damage israel has incurred on the other end as they don't let anyone report on it. ] (]) 18:17, 23 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::Please provide sources that say what you wrote above.''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 20:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:::No need, ] applies as this is within the Arab-Israeli conflict topic area, so the IP should just restrict themselves to edit requests which their previous message clearly isn't. ] (]) 20:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== Hezbollah Casualties vs Civil Casualties == |
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As of now, Hezbollah only published the identity of a single member. The vast majority of the killed are civils. |
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In some attacks, entire families were killed. ] (]) 21:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:Please keep in mind that it's higly unlikely that Hezbollah would report their true losses, and thereby admit how hard Israel hit them. It is way easier to present such losses as "civilian casualties". — ] ] <sup>(] / ])</sup> 21:28, 23 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::That may well be true but at the moment we have no way of knowing how many civilians vs. militants were killed and it is highly likely that given the current death toll of nearly 500, at least hundreds of civilians were killed and injured. Of course we are limited to the numbers and details published by reliable sources. ] (]'''-''']) 21:58, 23 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== Problematic infobox == |
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The infobox currently lists all deaths and injuries in Lebanon , which is problematic for obvious reasons (we don't know how many of those killed were civilians or militants). ] (]'''-''']) 21:46, 23 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== Incorrect name of operation == |
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== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 December 2024 == |
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The name isn't Arrows of the North but Northern Arrow. It matters. If can't even get the name right how can anyone trust won't just take antisemitic terrroist propoganda at face value? |
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-announces-name-of-military-offensive-against-hezbollah-northern-arrows/ ] (]) 22:32, 23 September 2024 (UTC) |
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September 19, 2024 – November 27 change it it's important ] (]) 12:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:] '''Not done''': it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a ] and provide a ] if appropriate.<!-- Template:EEp --> ] (]) 19:48, 30 December 2024 (UTC) |