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There is no balance in this article to counter the false assumption made in it that arguments against actions by the government or military of Israel, or against Zionism, are automatically anti-Semitic. In this way the article is one sided and pushes a false narrative that can in itself be seen as anti-Semitic since it employs the very same tactic used by extremist anti-Semites who would blame all Jews for the actions of Israel or extreme Zionists. That assumption should not appear as a flat assumption in this article - it should be stated that in the debate about anti-Semitism in the UK, one side is trying to push that assumption and is being criticised for doing so as both an attempt to shut down criticism of Israel and extreme Zionism and as a dangerous use of the same conflation employed by extreme anti-Semites. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 07:54, May 11, 2018 (UTC)</small> There is no balance in this article to counter the false assumption made in it that arguments against actions by the government or military of Israel, or against Zionism, are automatically anti-Semitic. In this way the article is one sided and pushes a false narrative that can in itself be seen as anti-Semitic since it employs the very same tactic used by extremist anti-Semites who would blame all Jews for the actions of Israel or extreme Zionists. That assumption should not appear as a flat assumption in this article - it should be stated that in the debate about anti-Semitism in the UK, one side is trying to push that assumption and is being criticised for doing so as both an attempt to shut down criticism of Israel and extreme Zionism and as a dangerous use of the same conflation employed by extreme anti-Semites. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 07:54, May 11, 2018 (UTC)</small>


== Battle of Cable Street == == New bus line ==


Although the ] reported that the new 310 bus route in London was introduced "to protect (the Jewish community) from antisemitic harassment", this is denied by members of the local community. According to the ], "Yet as Rabbi David Mason tweeted in reply to a man decrying the 310 as an emblem of a divided city: “Safety was never the main reason”. Buried in most reports was the fact that the 310’s route was first proposed 15 years ago, by GLA member Brian Coleman, to “connect families and friends in the Jewish community and enable them to get to community events going on in those areas”." It is misleading to use this as evidence for an increase in antisemitic activity, and I will accordingly remove the reference. <span style="font-family: Papyrus">] (])</span> 15:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
The short section mentioning the Battle of Cable Street seems inconsistent with the Wiki page on the event.
⚫ :Yes there does seme to be an undue issue with this. ] (]) 15:17, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
::The reference from the Jerusalem Post is accurately referenced. You have brought a source claiming otherwise. I will restore the Jerusalem Post source and add that others have argued that the new bus line is not related to antisemetism. ] (]) 07:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
:It is also untrue to suggest that Finsbury Park is an unsafe location for Jews. I worked there for many years, and was a regular patron there of one of the largest - and, in my opinion, best - bagel bakeries in London. Hardly a sign of a hotbed of antisemitism! <span style="font-family: Papyrus">] (])</span> 16:12, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
::It is categorically your prerogative to believe that it is not unsafe for Jews, but the reference states otherwise. If you can find a reference to the contrary, feel free to add it. ] (]) 07:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
:::And other denies this is the reason, thus ] may come into this. ] (]) 09:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
::::We follow references. The references cited state that this was the reason. You can feel free to cite other references that say otherwise and give context, but the fact that others argue on the reasoning in the source does not automatically make it ]. I encourage you to self revert. ] (]) 11:27, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::And just because you can find a source, is not a guarantee of inclusion. THis really tells us nothing other than an Israli sources think its an issue. ] (]) 12:05, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::::This need to be included. We need to follow sources. ] (]) 12:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::I just saw your message on this Talk page and I fully agree with your viewpoint. ] (]) 06:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)


== Question ==
It says


The article seems to be too long, consisting of a substantial amount of run-on and repetitive sentences. Some of the article’s sections may be grouped together rather than separated from one another. Sources backing up the content also need some degree of clean-up and rearrangement. It would be great if anyone can take the lead in achieving some or all of the possible goals for the betterment of the article. ] (]) 03:46, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
"The Board of Deputies of British Jews denounced the march as anti-semitic, and urged Jews to stay away".
and


== Dec 2024 ==
"The BUF marchers were dispersed towards Hyde Park instead while the anti-fascists rioted with police".


https://www.thejc.com/news/largest-menorah-lighting-ever-in-bricket-wood-after-chanukiah-smashed-by-vandals-ro7yfi24
(Although elsewhere I seem to recall reading that the BUF just decided to go home rather than being 'dispersed')
] (]) 09:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

So it seems the resistance to Moseley and his fascists wasn't in any significant way led by Jews as implied in the text, nor was the BUF really 'repulsed' by anyone, since the actual 'battle' was between the objectors and the police who were trying to restore order.

Perhaps a small correction might be made to clarify things.

Cassandra. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:29, 9 July 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I've changed it to make it clear that the battle was with the police, not the fascists, who agreed to abandon their march. The defence was clearly a collaborative exercise between a number of groups; I've omitted any claim to leadership by any one group. ] (]) 15:06, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

== (Blogpost) Comparison of the Met Police and CST antisemitic crime figures for 2014 ==

Mira Bar-Hillel - , 29 August 2015. <span style="font-family: Perpetua, serif; font-size:120%">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;←&nbsp;&nbsp;]&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> 21:58, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

== Removal of text and sources ==

A new editor has removed text ("However, a number of academic studies have heavily disputed this assertion") and relevant sources (Kuper, R., 2020. A Reply to ‘Labour and Antisemitism: A Crisis Misunderstood’. The Political Quarterly, 91(4), pp.832-838; Gidley, B., McGeever, B. and Feldman, D., 2020. Labour and Antisemitism: a crisis misunderstood. The Political Quarterly, 91(2), pp.413-421) following the sentence "Contemporary antisemitism is also prevalent on the left"), with the justification that the sources are "specific to the Labour Party". Well, of course they are - any response to claims of antisemitism in the Labour Party is bound to relate to the Labour Party. After I reverted this edit, the editor re-reverted, saying in the edit summary "I don't give a pass on left wing antisemitism". The removal of this text and the sources which support it means that the article gives a misleading impression of academic support for the assertion, and combined with the edit summary suggests that the editor is here to ], rather than to contribute constructively. Should the text cited above and supporting sources be included in this article? <span style="font-family: Papyrus">] (])</span> 15:55, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
:Then you are synthasising, while Labour is left of center, they are not all of them left. ] is clear, a source must explicitly support your text, not infer it. I can see their objection.] (]) 16:03, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
::In that case, so are the sources supporting the text remaining. Currently, different standards appear to be applied to sources supporting the assertion of "left antisemitism" than to those disputing this. <span style="font-family: Papyrus">] (])</span> 16:06, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
⚫ :::No, feel free to remove them if they only cover the labour party.] (]) 17:20, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

== Antisemitism in literature ==

e.g. Marlowe's Barabas, Shakespeare's Shylock pr Dickens's Fagin. Quite virulent antisemitic Stereotypes. - Is there a dedicated article about this already? Or shouldn't it be drafted? --] (]) 21:07, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

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Why is is is entry ignoring a key dynamic at the heart of the anti-Semitism debate in the UK?

There is no balance in this article to counter the false assumption made in it that arguments against actions by the government or military of Israel, or against Zionism, are automatically anti-Semitic. In this way the article is one sided and pushes a false narrative that can in itself be seen as anti-Semitic since it employs the very same tactic used by extremist anti-Semites who would blame all Jews for the actions of Israel or extreme Zionists. That assumption should not appear as a flat assumption in this article - it should be stated that in the debate about anti-Semitism in the UK, one side is trying to push that assumption and is being criticised for doing so as both an attempt to shut down criticism of Israel and extreme Zionism and as a dangerous use of the same conflation employed by extreme anti-Semites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.87.35 (talk • contribs) 07:54, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

New bus line

Although the Jerusalem Post reported that the new 310 bus route in London was introduced "to protect (the Jewish community) from antisemitic harassment", this is denied by members of the local community. According to the Evening Standard, "Yet as Rabbi David Mason tweeted in reply to a man decrying the 310 as an emblem of a divided city: “Safety was never the main reason”. Buried in most reports was the fact that the 310’s route was first proposed 15 years ago, by GLA member Brian Coleman, to “connect families and friends in the Jewish community and enable them to get to community events going on in those areas”." It is misleading to use this as evidence for an increase in antisemitic activity, and I will accordingly remove the reference. RolandR (talk) 15:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes there does seme to be an undue issue with this. Slatersteven (talk) 15:17, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
The reference from the Jerusalem Post is accurately referenced. You have brought a source claiming otherwise. I will restore the Jerusalem Post source and add that others have argued that the new bus line is not related to antisemetism. Minden500 (talk) 07:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
It is also untrue to suggest that Finsbury Park is an unsafe location for Jews. I worked there for many years, and was a regular patron there of one of the largest - and, in my opinion, best - bagel bakeries in London. Hardly a sign of a hotbed of antisemitism! RolandR (talk) 16:12, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
It is categorically your prerogative to believe that it is not unsafe for Jews, but the reference states otherwise. If you can find a reference to the contrary, feel free to add it. Minden500 (talk) 07:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
And other denies this is the reason, thus wp:undue may come into this. Slatersteven (talk) 09:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
We follow references. The references cited state that this was the reason. You can feel free to cite other references that say otherwise and give context, but the fact that others argue on the reasoning in the source does not automatically make it wp:undue. I encourage you to self revert. Minden500 (talk) 11:27, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
And just because you can find a source, is not a guarantee of inclusion. THis really tells us nothing other than an Israli sources think its an issue. Slatersteven (talk) 12:05, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
This need to be included. We need to follow sources. ABHammad (talk) 12:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
I just saw your message on this Talk page and I fully agree with your viewpoint. Steven1991 (talk) 06:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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The article seems to be too long, consisting of a substantial amount of run-on and repetitive sentences. Some of the article’s sections may be grouped together rather than separated from one another. Sources backing up the content also need some degree of clean-up and rearrangement. It would be great if anyone can take the lead in achieving some or all of the possible goals for the betterment of the article. Steven1991 (talk) 03:46, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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https://www.thejc.com/news/largest-menorah-lighting-ever-in-bricket-wood-after-chanukiah-smashed-by-vandals-ro7yfi24 דברי.הימים (talk) 09:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

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