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== Comment. == |
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<s>Rm] , not a full Lengthy content in info main box, i already edit by good faith by adding word text in other names as clearly, someone is reverted |
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<s>Rm] , not a full Lengthy content in info main box, i already edit by good faith by adding word text in other names as clearly, someone is reverted |
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Is Any can plz reverted as good version my edit in viewed history. |
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Is Any can plz reverted as good version my edit in viewed history. |
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:I'm sorry, but you're comment is incomprehensible. ] - ] 06:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:I'm sorry, but you're comment is incomprehensible. ] - ] 06:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::Atleast can you plz reverted my edit in vishnu wikipedia, i added neutral point of view, but that account unnecessary target me with doubt. my comment is comprehensivle in vishnu wiki history, plz see and accept it by reverted my edit as last is good version. I kindly request to you. ] 07:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--></s> <small>Blocked sock ] (]) 16:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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::Atleast can you plz reverted my edit in vishnu wikipedia, i added neutral point of view, but that account unnecessary target me with doubt. my comment is comprehensivle in vishnu wiki history, plz see and accept it by reverted my edit as last is good version. I kindly request to you. ] 07:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--></s> <small>Blocked sock ] (]) 16:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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:::This is gibberish. I don't mean to be unkind, but I think you should stick to editing in your native language, because it's clear you do not speak English, even though you may you think you do. ] (]) 08:58, 19 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::This is gibberish. I don't mean to be unkind, but I think you should stick to editing in your native language, because it's clear you do not speak English, even though you may you think you do. ] (]) 08:58, 19 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== Shiva and Vishnu == |
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== Shiva and Vishnu == |
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<s>Read ], |
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No including large content in info, users added sectarian bias. |
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No including large content in info, users added sectarian bias. |
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@ ] (]) 13:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</s> <small>Blocked sock ] (]) 16:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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@ ] (]) 13:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)</s> <small>Blocked sock ] (]) 16:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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:I returned back to Wiki just to save the Mahabharata articles from the sockpuppets of ] and limiting myself to edit the articles related to ] only. Currently, I have no interest in participating in debates related to sects, which irritated me so much that I had to quit few years back. Kindly, don't reach out to me for this. Also please familiarise with Wiki policies, the article ] is classified as a ], so it's obvious it would be better written.]<sup>]]</sup> 15:04, 25 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:I returned back to Wiki just to save the Mahabharata articles from the sockpuppets of ] and limiting myself to edit the articles related to ] only. Currently, I have no interest in participating in debates related to sects, which irritated me so much that I had to quit few years back. Kindly, don't reach out to me for this. Also please familiarise with Wiki policies, the article ] is classified as a ], so it's obvious it would be better written.]<sup>]]</sup> 15:04, 25 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:I have reverted those myself if they are sourced; I thought they lacked citations as other remarks had citations to them, earlier it didn't had all other except for god of destruction and supreme being. However, I have kept what I changed in consort field (RS from Doniger provided); other than that please feel to revert that if you think so. Yes, I will refrain myself from participating from pan-Hinduism related discussion and only focus on Mahabharata articles for which I joined the platform. Regards ]<sup>]]</sup> 20:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:I have reverted those myself if they are sourced; I thought they lacked citations as other remarks had citations to them, earlier it didn't had all other except for god of destruction and supreme being. However, I have kept what I changed in consort field (RS from Doniger provided); other than that please feel to revert that if you think so. Yes, I will refrain myself from participating from pan-Hinduism related discussion and only focus on Mahabharata articles for which I joined the platform. Regards ]<sup>]]</sup> 20:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:], I agree, this appeasment is not a wise or sustainable practice. ] (]) 21:33, 27 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:], I agree, this appeasment is not a wise or sustainable practice. ] (]) 21:33, 27 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:just shut up you fool @], i know you are anti vaishnavas, added less main info and old img for vishnu. |
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:If they were removed as unsourced why you worried that link are provided under article, this shows that you are Shiva bhakt and vishnu dweshis, i already know that you edit hindi wiki on shiva page . |
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:Is that shiva main info box word looks like whatsppp chat not looks like encyclopedia, adding 3 to 4 info source tip to vishnu and you added more than 7 info unnecessary for shiva , isnt unnecessary infobox crowding. Such as Patron of yog, bhog, master of arts, these are already described in articke then Why adding to top, why you didnt add to vishnu, answers me, if you didnt response or changes made, truth shows that all users are Vishnudveshis . |
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:What a propaganda ! |
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::<s>@], Are you happy now, when again repalce image while adding old image. ] (]) 10:12, 28 August 2024 (UTC) |
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::<s>@], Are you happy now, when again repalce image while adding old image. ] (]) 10:12, 28 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:::whats wrong with wiki users, why they promote supremacy, this user @] is shivaa devotee, this @] add so many content on sectarian bias with link, but why anyone not adding vishnu info, this shows you are jealous on lord vishnu, if you follow wikipedia rules, then add old image of shiva in wiki. |
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:::whats wrong with wiki users, why they promote supremacy, this user @] is shivaa devotee, this @] add so many content on sectarian bias with link, but why anyone not adding vishnu info, this shows you are jealous on lord vishnu, if you follow wikipedia rules, then add old image of shiva in wiki. |
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:::Why no one responses/.? answer anyone. lols ] (]) 08:14, 29 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Why no one responses/.? answer anyone. lols ] (]) 08:14, 29 August 2024 (UTC) |
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::::so many people jeaulous to Lord vishnu for eg in wiki, such as Dasanudasa and red tiger and all fake shiva Andha Bhaktas and so called fools and rascals. ] (]) 08:18, 29 August 2024 (UTC)</s> <small>Blocked sock ] (]) 16:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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::::so many people jeaulous to Lord vishnu for eg in wiki, such as Dasanudasa and red tiger and all fake shiva Andha Bhaktas and so called fools and rascals. ] (]) 08:18, 29 August 2024 (UTC)</s> <small>Blocked sock ] (]) 16:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)</small> |
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::::The reason why no one is answering is because everything you write is incomprehensible gibberish. ] (]) 09:23, 29 August 2024 (UTC) |
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::::The reason why no one is answering is because everything you write is incomprehensible gibberish. ] (]) 09:23, 29 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:Treat to everyone to equal why so much infobox crowding when compared to vishnu, atleast add related text such as Destroyer of Evil, Restorer of Dharma which the reference is provided under reference no. in vishnu article. |
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== Shiva is Destroyer of World , Which Purana mentions it ? == |
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== Suggestion for Good faith edits == |
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Shiva is destroyer of egoic structures. He reduces to ash through his fiery power. But is the future destroyer of the World. If he was destroyer of World , he would have been prayed as anti to Vishnu. I think book refer to him as fiercely powerful God, who destroys evil from world. Regenerates a better version of egoic powers. Like he did with KaamDev and Ravana, making them more humble by his powers. |
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Requested to all users treat equality and assume good faith edits to all Deities. |
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I never back again in my life. |
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Calling him destryoer in second para is incomplete |
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One of the source of J Gonda I checked and it calls him a absorber instead of destroyer. |
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it is necessary added Vishvarupa (Universal being) to affiliation to vishnu , |
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when added Nataraja (cosmic dancer) to shiva, |
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when whole bhagavd gita and mahbharata says that all, all text says that Vishnu Avatar purpose is to restore the cosmic order balance b/w good and destroy evil, add that Restorer of Dharma to vishnu in main info, source provided under article given below. |
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Destroyer of Evil through his fierce powers, should be used to convey complete meaning. ] (]) 07:42, 2 January 2025 (UTC) |
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Removed so much info on shiva main info box , if you didn't accept then add related to vishnu for main infobox such Restorer of Dharma before Bestower of Karma and The Universal Being (Vishvarupa) like when added Nataraja (cosmic dancer) to shiva, add related similar info to Vishnu like same as to edits as shiva. |
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Links are provided under article when same edits to shiva ] (]) 14:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC) |
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Shiva is also widely worshipped in Mauritius, Thailand and Sri Lanka. These have some of the oldest idols and biggest temples of the deity. Can someone edit countries of worship please. Reena.shiva (talk) 18:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
I would like to inform an popular, alternate and very important name for Shiva that is not mentioned in this article. Shiva is also referred to as Lord Isar/Eesar, in the Northwestern States of India such as Rajastan, Haryana, and Punjab. One source for this is "The Religions of India: A Concise Guide to Nine Major Faiths", which on this page(https://books.google.com/books?id=pNmfdAKFpkQC&pg=PA123#v=onepage&q&f=false) describes the Ganguar festival involving Shiva as going by the name Isar. Secondly, in the Sikh Japji Sahib, an important religious source written in 1604, in Pauri 9(https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Japji_Sahib_Pauri_9) Shiva is referred to as Eesar. I hope you can add this as an alternate name for Shiva along Mahadeva and Hara, as shown below:
"Shiva (/ˈʃɪvə/; Sanskrit: शिव, lit. 'The Auspicious One', IAST: Śiva ), also known as Mahadeva (/məˈhɑː ˈdeɪvə/; Sanskrit: महादेव:, lit. 'The Great God', IAST: Mahādevaḥ, , Hara, or Isar, is one of the principal deities of Hinduism. He is the Supreme Being in Shaivism, one of the major traditions within Hinduism." Vgolf31 (talk) 13:39, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Shiva is destroyer of egoic structures. He reduces to ash through his fiery power. But is the future destroyer of the World. If he was destroyer of World , he would have been prayed as anti to Vishnu. I think book refer to him as fiercely powerful God, who destroys evil from world. Regenerates a better version of egoic powers. Like he did with KaamDev and Ravana, making them more humble by his powers.
One of the source of J Gonda I checked and it calls him a absorber instead of destroyer.