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:Thanks. Know-it-all IPs rub me the wrong way. ] (]) 00:01, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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== Happy new year and Bradley conundrum ==

Looks like that IP has been blocked. BTW, thanks for the thanks, and welcome back. Hope you can stay. ] <sub>]</sub> 22:31, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

:No problem. I'm still mostly retired, but I'm watchlisting close to a thousand pages. I had nearly 30,000 when I retired last year. ] (]) 09:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

:* Thanks for anything you can do BilCat! ] (]) 19:33, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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I think you've already taken care of some people prematurely adding Ukraine to the list of Bradley operators on the M2 and Fighting Vehicle articles. I don't want to jump the gun and add anything to the bodies quite yet as the reports are fairly spotty, but I was hoping you could provide guidance on what we could say should we want to add anything. The best sources I've found are '''' (who I believe broke the story) and '''' (which leans on the ''Bloomberg'' reporting). Happy new year! ~ ] (]) 18:28, 1 January 2023 (UTC)


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== A barnstar for you! == == B-2 Spirit ==


I could not find a source that called it the "Stealth Bomber" instead of the B-2 Spirit as a name, rather than a descriptor.
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Do you know what source referred to it as such, especially capitalized? ] (]) 23:34, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
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Why is using excerpt not a good idea? In this case, the two bits were already identical. ] (]) 22:42, 4 January 2023 (UTC) :I searched for "B-2 stealth bomber", and found many mentions, both capitalized and not, from a wide variety of sources. But this is better discussed on the article's talk page so that others can participate. ] (]) 00:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC)


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<del>Hey Bill - just noting that ~~its ] that redirects to ], not ] which, as an aircraft that was actually built and flown, really should have its own page already! - ] <sub>]</sub> 08:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)</del>
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:HUh, how did I miss that the latter ''did'' redirect? Bah, I need more caffiene! - ] <sub>]</sub> 08:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
::Because I just created it, and tagged it as a Redirect with Possibilities. I wish we could still link those, but that seems to be the way things are done now. Red links are no longer considered a good thing like they used to be, at least in practice. ] (]) 08:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)


::And yeah, we should have an article on it, but I'm not sure it would survive an AFD. That's the was things go now too. Misplaced Pages's been around long enough, and is many people's first stop for info. I think it high time we relaxed notability to include local only sources. ] (]) 08:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Nice eye catching ], I missed it! ] ] ] 05:31, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
:::I'm pretty sure it would, if only I had the time to scratch up the sources. It does seem a lot of grognards have too much time on their hands and consider GNG to be less "general" and more "strict" though! - ] <sub>]</sub> 08:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
::::Yup. I'm mostly active again on American aircraft articles, but still semi-retired on the rest of Misplaced Pages. Still too many stupid things going on Misplaced Pages for me to unretire completely. ] (]) 08:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::hey bil glad to see your semi back best regards, ] (]) 06:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)


== A kitten for you! ==
:No problem, Misplaced Pages is collaborative, so we all help each other out. Just like an admin will help out if that vandal keeps vandalizing! ] (]) 05:35, 6 January 2023 (UTC)


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hi i didn't think a barn-star was needed for this but i wanted to say thanks for helping me during my time on Misplaced Pages


best regards, ] (]) 04:21, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
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There are more edits, by the same IP user, to the ] article. You seemed to value my earlier actions there, perhaps you could take a hand now? I do not want to start a personal war with this - possibly well-meaning - editor. ] (]) 17:11, 9 January 2023 (UTC)


I'm not sure ] agrees, but thanx, - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 23:20, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks. I'll take a look when I have a chance. ] (]) 18:40, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
*Hey, BilCat, have you any idea what was going on here ? I want to be clear I'm not accusing you of anything, but the interaction is just so ''weird''. Maybe he just ''wishes'' he were you? ]] 00:59, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
:Stop, I made a mistake, I'm who I am, chill out. Leave BilCat of of it, danm. - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 01:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|EEng#s}}How in the hell do you get, "me whishing" anytghing, I'm talking to you, and I'm FlightTime. Quit trying to confuse the issue "I" brought to '''You''' UFB - <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">] <small>(])</small></span> 01:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
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== Guyana - time zone == == GE90 ==


I just changed some of the info to be more consistent with the ]. For instance the 777-300 was never ordered with the GE90, so that combination was never certified with the FAA. Also, the production 777F is often more specifically referred to as the 777-200LRF, in order to distinguish it from the 777-300ERSF conversion. ] (]) 03:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Have a look at timeanddate.com, https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/guyana/georgetown, check the 1900-1924 period and you will see the 3h45 min difference. Please? And if you see it is so, please restore my revision, as there is no distinct Time in Guyana article. ] (]) 04:02, 11 January 2023 (UTC)


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Hey, I need some help moving ] to ]. There's no slash present in the actual airport name, at least according to the , so I'm trying to remove it from the page title with a page move. I'm getting a "cannot move page" error when I try to perform the move. What exactly am I doing wrong? ] (]) 07:21, 11 January 2023 (UTC)


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:{{yo|Michael60634}} Actually, you haven't done any wrong at all. Pages cannot be moved on top of an existing redirect if more than one edit has been made to the redirect page, which it has in the case, except by administrators or page movers. While I am a page mover, and could make the move, I'm not going to in this specific case. ], whose is an admin, created the redirect page, and has done a lot of work on Canadian airport articles, so out of courtesy, I'm going to defer to him. If he doesn't pop by here or make the move in a few hours, feel free to ask him on his talk page. Thanks, and I hope that's not too inconvenient. ] (]) 07:51, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
::{{u|Michael60634}}. No worries. I moved the page. Most of the smaller Canadian airports were created based on the name given in the ] because I didn't know the common names orr the one used by the airport authority. A lot of airports which have been given local names end up being at "community name/local name" as defined by ]. So ] which is run by a couple named Roan is at ] because that's where it's located. ], ], ] 15:17, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
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Good to see you back

For however long it may be. - ZLEA T\ 01:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not sure how long it'll be either. We'll see. BilCat (talk) 01:21, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
whichever - it is good to see you here... JarrahTree 01:25, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Agree with JarrahTree. Welcome, be it a short or long stay. -- Euryalus (talk) 01:33, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! BilCat (talk) 01:36, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes, glad to see you back. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. I've slowed down a little the past couple weeks, but we'll see how it goes for the next few. BilCat (talk) 00:11, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Oi. Too funny. Yah, we are all here. Still beny (talk) 05:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes! You were one of my Wiki mentors! Glade to see you! Tfdavisatsnetnet (talk) 03:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

whatever - here there or whereever!!! JarrahTree 11:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
Welcome semi-back.Acroterion (talk) 13:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Sikorsky S-72

If it’s not proper to link the Sikorsky S-72’s emergency extraction system to ejection seat, a brief explanation of the difference on the page would be nice. RickyCourtney (talk) 03:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Oh this is rather good ...

So nicely put! Cheers DBaK (talk) 10:56, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Know-it-all IPs rub me the wrong way. BilCat (talk) 00:01, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

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Royal Canadian Air Force

Looks like that IP has been blocked. BTW, thanks for the thanks, and welcome back. Hope you can stay.  BC  talk to me 22:31, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

No problem. I'm still mostly retired, but I'm watchlisting close to a thousand pages. I had nearly 30,000 when I retired last year. BilCat (talk) 09:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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B-2 Spirit

I could not find a source that called it the "Stealth Bomber" instead of the B-2 Spirit as a name, rather than a descriptor.

Do you know what source referred to it as such, especially capitalized? FinnSoThin (talk) 23:34, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

I searched for "B-2 stealth bomber", and found many mentions, both capitalized and not, from a wide variety of sources. But this is better discussed on the article's talk page so that others can participate. BilCat (talk) 00:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

"Redirected here"

Hey Bill - just noting that ~~its Northrop Grumman Model 400 that redirects to T-X program, not Scaled Composites Model 400 Swift which, as an aircraft that was actually built and flown, really should have its own page already! - The Bushranger One ping only 08:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

HUh, how did I miss that the latter did redirect? Bah, I need more caffiene! - The Bushranger One ping only 08:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Because I just created it, and tagged it as a Redirect with Possibilities. I wish we could still link those, but that seems to be the way things are done now. Red links are no longer considered a good thing like they used to be, at least in practice. BilCat (talk) 08:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
And yeah, we should have an article on it, but I'm not sure it would survive an AFD. That's the was things go now too. Misplaced Pages's been around long enough, and is many people's first stop for info. I think it high time we relaxed notability to include local only sources. BilCat (talk) 08:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it would, if only I had the time to scratch up the sources. It does seem a lot of grognards have too much time on their hands and consider GNG to be less "general" and more "strict" though! - The Bushranger One ping only 08:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Yup. I'm mostly active again on American aircraft articles, but still semi-retired on the rest of Misplaced Pages. Still too many stupid things going on Misplaced Pages for me to unretire completely. BilCat (talk) 08:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
hey bil glad to see your semi back best regards, Paytonisboss (talk) 06:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

hi i didn't think a barn-star was needed for this but i wanted to say thanks for helping me during my time on Misplaced Pages

best regards, Paytonisboss (talk) 04:21, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

SR

I'm not sure EEng agrees, but thanx, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:20, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Hey, BilCat, have you any idea what was going on here ? I want to be clear I'm not accusing you of anything, but the interaction is just so weird. Maybe he just wishes he were you? EEng 00:59, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Stop, I made a mistake, I'm who I am, chill out. Leave BilCat of of it, danm. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
@EEng:How in the hell do you get, "me whishing" anytghing, I'm talking to you, and I'm FlightTime. Quit trying to confuse the issue "I" brought to You UFB - FlightTime (open channel) 01:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Sorry BilCat. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:11, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

GE90

I just changed some of the info to be more consistent with the Boeing 777. For instance the 777-300 was never ordered with the GE90, so that combination was never certified with the FAA. Also, the production 777F is often more specifically referred to as the 777-200LRF, in order to distinguish it from the 777-300ERSF conversion. 24.206.65.142 (talk) 03:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

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